benifin Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hi all Got the info below in blue from the Line 6 website. If ( !?!? :) ) I were to buy pre-owned / used Helix and I wanted to completly / totally / absolutly restore and clear everything in it to " as-if it were brand new in box and never previoulsy turned on " .....which FSW Boot Sequence is the best one to use:- 1) Hold FS5 and FS12 while powering Helix: Clears EVERYTHING 2) Hold FS5 and FS6 while powering Helix: Restores backdoor and user-selectable Global parameters to factory 3) Hold FS7 and FS8 while powering Helix: Restores presets and setlists to factory 4) Hold FS8 and FS9 while powering Helix: Restores presets, setlists, and IRs to factory 5) Hold FS9 and FS10 while powering Helix: Restores presets, setlists, IRs, and both backdoor and user-selectable Global parameters to factory Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshimkoski Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 http://helixhelp.com/pmwiki.php?n=Main.ResetOptions I'd say foot switch 9 & 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 http://helixhelp.com/pmwiki.php?n=Main.ResetOptions I'd say foot switch 9 & 10. Thanks - thats what I was thinking. Not really sure though what the difference between 9 & 10 -or- 5 & 12 which clears setlists, clears IRs, Returns system settings to default (?) Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Perhaps 5&12 does indeed clear everything - including factory presets whereas 9&10 restores factory presets. But just a guess as I've never used 5&12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Perhaps 5&12 does indeed clear everything - including factory presets whereas 9&10 restores factory presets. But just a guess as I've never used 5&12. Thanks. After a bit more reading, if I do grab a used Helix, given all I would really want to do is to return it to the state it was in when it left the factory, FSW 9 & FSW 10 is doubtless the way to go. Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It's kind of a moot point because you will also want to upgrade the used Helix to the latest firmware/editor package. The instructions for doing this include a 9&10 restart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Still leaves the distinction vague between the 5&12 sequence vs. the 9&10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Based on the descriptions of the reset options, I think silverhead is correct above. Or, 5&12 does not restore factory setlists, whereas 9&10 does. Everything else these two switch combos do is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 What are these "backdoor" parameters? Not something I know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 This is getting confusing. What's a backdoor parameter? I fear something just flew over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 This is getting confusing. What's a backdoor parameter? I fear something just flew over me.I'm curious about that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Where exactly did that phrase come from in relation to Helix reset options? I searched the 2.0 user guide PDF, didn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideout Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Where exactly did that phrase come from in relation to Helix reset options? I searched the 2.0 user guide PDF, didn't find it. First i'd heard of it was from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 This google search find this topic and and presets, only: site:line6.com backdoor benifin, not to put you on the spot, but do you have the link to that info? Seems we're all confused, but intrigued! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm confused now too. Are people using the phrase 'backdoor parameters' in reference to the reset options found at the link posted originally by jshimoski on the HelixHelp website or is this referring to something else? http://helixhelp.com/pmwiki.php?n=Main.ResetOptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 This google search find this topic and and presets, only: site:line6.com backdoor benifin, not to put you on the spot, but do you have the link to that info? Seems we're all confused, but intrigued! Hi. Not at all :) See the 12th bolded question titled " What are the secret bootup shortcuts? " at this link:- http://line6.com/support/topic/14264-helix-faq/ Would be good to know [offically] the "differences". Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Hi. Not at all :) See the 12th bolded question titled " What are the secret bootup shortcuts? " at this link:- http://line6.com/support/topic/14264-helix-faq/ Would be good to know [offically] the "differences". Thanks, Ben That is intriguing! You would think 'backdoor' would refer to resetting some FS combination that the Line6 techs could use to get into a locked up Helix and/or perhaps to manipulate diagnostics, parameters, settings, or commands not ordinarily available to users. Maybe akin to the backdoors built into many video games. If so I would like the backdoor combination for the unlimited IR slots and the two additional unused Tiger SHARCs please... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zooey Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ah, so Line 6 IS the source of this mysterious rumor of Mystikal Incantations. Enlighten us mortals, DI, or some other inner sanctum resident! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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