Strange delay in input?

[minopa]

Here is the clip:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/88eaovm06363pvq/helix.mp3?dl=0

 

Recorded straight via USB with Cubase Elements 7 and here are explanations:

 

1) D-string 2. fret

2) D-string 3. fret

3) D-string 2. to 3. fret (here is the strange effect like 1st sounds stays under next one a while)

4) Half step inteval from A and D strings (same effect like on previous)

5) Toto's Hold the Line (that's where I noticed the effect)

6) same as spot 3 without 200 ms delay block after IR

 

Any thoughts? I tried three different guitars and same thing with all. For me it sounds like piano's sustain pedal is pressed and previous note holds under the next one and thats sound like that half step interval. Very annoying.

[HonestOpinion]

Here is the clip:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/88eaovm06363pvq/helix.mp3?dl=0

 

Recorded straight via USB with Cubase Elements 7 and here are explanations:

 

1) D-string 2. fret

2) D-string 3. fret

3) D-string 2. to 3. fret (here is the strange effect like 1st sounds stays under next one a while)

4) Half step inteval from A and D strings (same effect like on previous)

5) Toto's Hold the Line (that's where I noticed the effect)

6) same as spot 3 without 200 ms delay block after IR

 

Any thoughts? I tried three different guitars and same thing with all. For me it sounds like piano's sustain pedal is pressed and previous note holds under the next one and thats sound like that half step interval. Very annoying.

 

Could a delay or reverb time setting, or perhaps compressor's release setting be too long?

[shanecgriffo]

you might be getting the input from 2 different drivers or there is some sort of glitch from the device driver.?

[HonestOpinion]

Here is the clip:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/88eaovm06363pvq/helix.mp3?dl=0

 

Recorded straight via USB with Cubase Elements 7 and here are explanations:

 

1) D-string 2. fret

2) D-string 3. fret

3) D-string 2. to 3. fret (here is the strange effect like 1st sounds stays under next one a while)

4) Half step inteval from A and D strings (same effect like on previous)

5) Toto's Hold the Line (that's where I noticed the effect)

6) same as spot 3 without 200 ms delay block after IR

 

Any thoughts? I tried three different guitars and same thing with all. For me it sounds like piano's sustain pedal is pressed and previous note holds under the next one and thats sound like that half step interval. Very annoying.

you might be getting the input from 2 different drivers or there is some sort of glitch from the device driver.?

Good point from shanegriffo, it should have occurred to me first that this might be a result of the interaction with the DAW, perhaps a latency, driver, or hardware issue. I assumed the reference to Cubase was simply a description of how the problem was captured, bad assumption. Is this happening only when used with Cubase or do you get this issue occurring when going direct out to headphones or speakers/cabs?

[DunedinDragon]

Without seeing what's in your preset it's just guessing.  I'm assuming you've taken this down to the very basics with no amp, cab, effects and feeding a raw signal to the DAW and it does the same thing?  If not I'd suggest starting there then adding components one at the time.  That may give you a better clue of why this is happening.

[phil_m]

Sounds like ghost notes to me... What amp model is this?

[jbuhajla]

Post a pic of your preset. 

[minopa]

Thanks for answers!

 

Here's what seems to be the issue. When I play E from D-string (2. fret) The E string vibrates too an causes that dissonance. If I mute E string then there's no problem. So I guess that because modelling unit stacks all modelling staff on the top off clean guitar sound the modelling gains all "bad" things too. But I've played guitar about 20 years and now first time noticed this problem. Helix is my 4th or 5th modelling unit plus plug-ins so this unit or I do something wrong.

 

I tested bypassing all blocks the dissonance is there. With German Mahadeva amp (other blocks still bypassed) the effect is strongest.

 

Of course the effect is noticeable with other half step intervals too. Like G-string 2nd to 3th fret with resonating A string.

 

Argh!

[jbuhajla]

I guess I am not understanding the dissonance between an E played on the D string with the open E string. 

[minopa]

I guess I am not understanding the dissonance between an E played on the D string with the open E string. 

oops, my bad! I mean dissonance between F played on D string after E played on D string because E on D strings makes E string vibrate too.

[gunpointmetal]

is it possible you have the monitoring on in your DAW and you're getting the signal twice, with a slight delay on the signal through the DAW? I have to turn the in-program monitoring off when I record otherwise its super annoying.

[minopa]

This case is solved. No problem with Helix. Same dissonance effect with UR22 usb inteface driven with OCD distortion pedal and IR-cab sim in daw. Maybe it's just a "feature" or result of my playing style or moon phase etc. Fortunately I can play same riff (Toto's - Hold the Line) on another postition without dissonance effect. :)

 

Thanks for help!

[DunedinDragon]

I've always wondered whether or not anomalous behaviors might come about when one uses a signal path formed in the Helix and then augments it with other plug in elements in a DAW.  I guess I have my answer....