aed1421 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Any solutions to be able to see the screan on a Helix when its in the sun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 11:18 PM, aed1421 said: Any solutions to be able to see the screan on a Helix when its in the sun? Type “sunlight” into the search option at the top of this page, “Sascha” had lots to say - or move into the shade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 12:18 AM, aed1421 said: Any solutions to be able to see the screan on a Helix when its in the sun? No. You could try to install some kind of screen, but depending on the angle of the sunlight coming in, that might not help much. Fwiw, I found things to be just as bad with diffused lightning conditions, so moving into the shade doesn't help too much, either - unless you crawl below the stage or so. Just played quite a bunch of open air shows and it's been really horrible. As datacommando put so eloquently, yes, I have lots to say. In a nutshell, the Helix is the worst of all floor units I've ever used when it comes to proper visability. What I did was trying to go for a snapshot-only-solution on those particular gigs. As I'm always only using one patch per gig, these are easy to remember and in case of doubt which one is selected, I just press the switch again. I usually vastly prefer a mixture of snapshots and stomps, but in case you can't even remotely see the status of the stomps, that just doesn't work. And yes, even if the Line 6 fanboys don't like to read it: This is a clear sign of incredibly bad quality assurance. The unit has never been properly tested under any such conditions (or the outcome of those tests has been ignored, which is just every bit as bad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 7:02 AM, MGW-Alberta said: https://www.gearbyceba.com/line6-family-usa/helix-sun-shield-splash-guards-usa This will make mounting the Helix onto a pedalboard quite a difficult task (plus you'll be wasting considerable board estate). In addition, it won't help much with light from the side or pretty diffuse light. You could likely build a better working solution yourself, using whatever plastic shield mounted on a flexible holder (are they called "gooseneck" holders in english as well?). That'd allow you to get away with less material and be more flexible, too. Anyway, none of these will really improve things. But Line 6 could do that, at least for the Helix Floor. Offer us an LT alike screen, ideally faking a monochrome b/w color scheme and also completely invert the scribble strips when switched on. Would cost them a few minutes of programming and help Floor users tremendously. But quite obviously, they have no plans on doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think Sascha's suggestion is the best one. Surely there must be a way to turn the screen into what is described. Scribble strips inverted if ON. Turn the main screen into a monochrome switch on off indicator. I have put this on ideascale. Helix screen/display/scribble strip sunlight visiblity fix https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/1047765 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Performance View on the LT is relatively easy to manage in sunlight. The screen is easily shaded without blocking access to any footswitches but is still dependent on sunlight angle. I don't find it any harder to see than any other unit I've ever used... and I've owned many over the years. When I used an HX Effects and had to rely on scribble strips - I found it much more difficult in the sun. I find it very beneficial to use a uniform layout throughout my presets. This helps me to get around the unit without needing to know where everything is. Snapshots are setup in the same order with similar functions, as are the stomps. My boost is always in the same spot, same for my lead overdrive, my tap delay, or my modulation - even if the effect differs from preset to preset. On 7/12/2022 at 7:21 AM, brue58ski said: I have put this on ideascale. Helix screen/display/scribble strip sunlight visiblity fix https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/1047765 Upvoted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaschaFranck Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 2:21 PM, brue58ski said: Surely there must be a way to turn the screen into what is described. Scribble strips inverted if ON. Turn the main screen into a monochrome switch on off indicator. The problem is, in case L6 would do so, they would automatically admit that the Helix displays and LEDs were bad to start with. So they will never do anything. I'd take pretty much any bet on that, too. I mean, the issue is wellknown ever since the Helix has hit the streets. Which was around 7 years ago. You'd think that such an easy fix would've made it into the unit after such a long time, no? Anyway, voted your idea up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_kirk Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 There's been a few of these put on idea scale over the years. I did one a while back... https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/997056 Plus there are these few at a quick glance.. https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/1026588 https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/943262 https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/920142 Not sure if it's the same 20 or so people voting every time, but does anyone know if it's possible to merge ideas...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Yikes, I should have done a search. I will upvote all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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