davidc2478 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Hey guys, need help with setting delay to do a specific repeat. The song is 120bpm I need a setting that hits and then repeats in “1 and” “2 and” “3 and”… Meaning if I pick on 1, I’d like to hear the delay on “1 and”. So far I can only get it to hit back in 2..3..4 i hope my explanation makes sense. It’s driving me nuts lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmalle Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Time for a more nerdy delay to shine: Euclidean Delay! Try these variants: Steps 2, Fill 1, Rotate 1 Steps 4, Fill 2, Rotate 2 Steps 6, Fill 3, Rotate 3 Or two delays in series in a parallel path where the first is an 8th note delay with no feedback and 100% mix. The second is a 4th note delay with feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebodyelse Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 On 10/26/2024 at 10:56 PM, davidc2478 said: Hey guys, need help with setting delay to do a specific repeat. The song is 120bpm I need a setting that hits and then repeats in “1 and” “2 and” “3 and”… Meaning if I pick on 1, I’d like to hear the delay on “1 and”. So far I can only get it to hit back in 2..3..4 i hope my explanation makes sense. It’s driving me nuts lol. 250 ms will give you the '1 and...', but you'll also have repeats on the beat. If you put the delay on a parallel path, 100% wet with 0% feedback, 250ms, you should get a single repeat on the 'and', then add a second delay directly after (also on the parallel path) set to 500ms, 100% wet, feedback to taste, and adjust the 'dry/wet mix' with the return block level. This will give you a repeat on every 'and', but not on the beat. EDIT: Thanks to @datacommandogetting my grey matter jumpstarted further down, it occurred to me that a simple Multitap 4 block set to 1s delay time, 25% and 75% taps (the other two taps silenced), mix and feedback to taste. This can be used without the need to employ a parallel path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidc2478 Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 I appreciate the responses, I'll give them a try and see if they fit what I need. Thanks guys!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 On 10/26/2024 at 10:56 PM, davidc2478 said: Hey guys, need help with setting delay to do a specific repeat. The song is 120bpm I need a setting that hits and then repeats in “1 and” “2 and” “3 and”… Meaning if I pick on 1, I’d like to hear the delay on “1 and”. So far I can only get it to hit back in 2..3..4 i hope my explanation makes sense. It’s driving me nuts lol. Hi, Here’s a link to a cheat sheet over on Sweetwater. https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/bpm-delay-times-cheat-sheet/ Hope this help#/makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I used this tool a few times, https://anotherproducer.com/online-tools-for-musicians/delay-reverb-time-calculator/, handy tool. Add the BPM and you have the values for delays and reverbs. Under “tools” there are some more, eg. a metronome, BPM calculator etc. Some are available as Android apps but have no personal experience of those. //Per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebodyelse Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I do the sums on a calculator, though 120bpm I can figure out in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 On 10/26/2024 at 10:56 PM, davidc2478 said: The song is 120bpm I need a setting that hits and then repeats in “1 and” “2 and” “3 and”… Hi, again. Surely, like all delay and reverb time settings, this should be a simple math problem, where you set the tempo on your preset to 120 bpm. You should select a stereo delay with 1/4 note set as the original TIME, then set the SCALE to 50 percent. The first repeat will occur on the quarter note in the left channel followed by a repeat from the right on the “and”. This should continue with repeats from the left landing on the 1 - 2 - 3 - 4, along with repeats on the right falling in between on the “&”. Possibly not what you’re wanting to achieve - but hey, play around with the percentage scale and you will work it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebodyelse Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 On 10/29/2024 at 7:21 PM, datacommando said: Hi, again. Surely, like all delay and reverb time settings, this should be a simple math problem, where you set the tempo on your preset to 120 bpm. You should select a stereo delay with 1/4 note set as the original TIME, then set the SCALE to 50 percent. The first repeat will occur on the quarter note in the left channel followed by a repeat from the right on the “and”. This should continue with repeats from the left landing on the 1 - 2 - 3 - 4, along with repeats on the right falling in between on the “&”. Possibly not what you’re wanting to achieve - but hey, play around with the percentage scale and you will work it out. The inference I get from the OP is that he wants repeats on the "and" only - a 1/4 note delay shifted forward by an 1/8. Only (or easiest, anyway) way to achieve that, as far as I can see in the Helix, is to have two consecutive delay blocks on a parallel path, as per my first reply. It being 120 bpm, a bar is 2s, a quarter is 500ms, an eighth is 250ms... thinking about it, the Multitap 4 could be set to do it without a parallel path, with a 1s delay time, 25% and 75% taps (with the two other taps silenced), mix and feedback to taste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmalle Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 On 10/30/2024 at 9:00 AM, somebodyelse said: The inference I get from the OP is that he wants repeats on the "and" only - a 1/4 note delay shifted forward by an 1/8. Only (or easiest, anyway) way to achieve that, as far as I can see in the Helix, is to have two consecutive delay blocks on a parallel path, as per my first reply. It being 120 bpm, a bar is 2s, a quarter is 500ms, an eighth is 250ms... thinking about it, the Multitap 4 could be set to do it without a parallel path, with a 1s delay time, 25% and 75% taps (with the two other taps silenced), mix and feedback to taste. The easiest way to get there is this: Euclidean Delay with Step Time 1/8th (or 250ms for fixed 120 bpm), Steps 2, Fill 1, Rotate 1. Feedback to taste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 On 10/30/2024 at 8:00 AM, somebodyelse said: The inference I get from the OP is that he wants repeats on the "and" only - a 1/4 note delay shifted forward by an 1/8. Ah, now I think I get it. I also considered that a multi-tap may be worth investigating. On 10/30/2024 at 8:17 AM, Schmalle said: The easiest way to get there is this: Euclidean Delay with Step Time 1/8th (or 250ms for fixed 120 bpm), Steps 2, Fill 1, Rotate 1. Feedback to taste. Yeah, that should do it. Those very clever ancient Greeks and their calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebodyelse Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 On 10/30/2024 at 12:22 PM, datacommando said: Ah, now I think I get it. I also considered that a multi-tap may be worth investigating. Yeah, that should do it. Those very clever ancient Greeks and their calculations. Honestly, 12 years of doing 216 Hank Marvin Echo presets for various fx units... if I never mess with delays again, it'll be too soon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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