GaryKaneNYC

you definitely have a great point and it would be super do-able with Variax. I agree on the pickup response like with the Roland/Boss SY-1000 etc to get best polyphony. without the pickup though, there are some reasonable options that don’t even glitch as much as an old school Whammy pedal :)

SY-1 takes only taps. Micro or smart clock handles taps and midi to integrate.

Hey there - I found 2 successful work arounds. Disaster smart clock or their micro clock both output a tempo via ts cable and have midi options. Micro clock needs adapters, smart clock has midi in out. With the SY-1 I did a trs splitter into the pedal. one TS side goes to the tap tempo of the disaster area device and the other split went to a latching button so I can still use the hold feature on the SY-1. disaster area smart clock has the most ports and I do wish I’d bought that first over the micro clock. let me know if more questions!

@cherubHi, I have tried a number of combinations, really depends on what you are trying to do in the end. I recently did a number of tests with the HX Stomp and FRFR speakers, in those cases I routed the SY-300 through the HX Stomp and out from it to the FRFR. If I understand correctly, it sounds like you want to run the SY-1 to a PA but I am not certain of sound quality. I would need to look it up but I do not think the instrument/line levels are correct without some adapter in between in this situation. Personally, I would run the SY-1 in the effects loop all through the HX Effects and use the internal mix settings to do things like signal path A without the FX Block/SY-1 and path B with it, hard left right splits where needed to keep the lines separate. For output I would either keep the path hard left/right pan and run it into the JC stereo but really like a fake 2 amp situation in that case with both inputs. OR, I would blend the level of path A vs B to my liking, maybe use an EXP pedal to control the blend live in real time as well and have both paths running out stereo to the JC. I tend to think of the HX Effects and the SY-1 as my external amp friendly combination and then the SY-300 and HX Stomp as the deeper control combo that is more FRFR/recording friendly. The SY-300 has additional outputs to go to mixers and still yet integrate to other pedals and so forth. Also, if you skip using the PA, you probably use less cables on the stage and that always means less things to trip on, break, and replace. Please let me know if you have more details on the setup you are hoping to achieve and if I can be of any help. Also, curious why you want to run just the SY-1 to a PA?

I tend to use snapshots within songs because there is a minor lag usually with changing presets globally. I forget where I had read about that originally but have experienced it myself. If you get clever with snapshots you can control many things, I even use 2 amps in certain HX Stomp patches and snapshots to switch between the amps unless I just want to change tones on the one amp, like old school channel switching on a single amp. I use the Morningstar MC6, prefer this unit it because of the flexibility and the LCD screen to tell me where I am at a glance when needed live. I use the bottom 3 typically for snapshot switching and the top 3 may vary depending on needs or external gear in the Midi chain, usually top left is to change HX Stomp screen views/modes. You can plug in 2 EXP pedals to the MC6 and leave the exp/fs4,5 jack open on the Stomp.

Hi - joining this conversation late but wanted to contribute, I have been trying out many synths and integrating them within an HX Stomp and an HX Effects environment depending on the goals. I have a Meris Enzo for about a year now, the SY-1 for about 6 months and recently scored an SY-300 used. After trying the Source Audio C4 I opted against it because it was monophonic and I can get that out of the EHX Synth9 aside from Helix software blocks - so polyphony has been my goal. Also, I did not like how heavily the software was needed for what seemed like every possible edit. Just to be weird, I sometimes use a Digitech Ricochet with its glitch setting to defeat the poly sometimes - depending on the part I suppose. The EHX Super Ego is also something to keep in mind for creating synth pad textures too out of devices that do not have hold/freeze/sustain functions. Thoughts per pedal - EHX Synth9 - simple plug and play, not very deep but fun and covers mono in addition to an awesome poly setting, 3 note chords at max. I like the pedal but it is narrow and I found their Mel9 was a bit more interesting and radical of a tone box. Meris Enzo - amazing poly sounds and if you bypass the synth it is an amazing filter pedal. It has dual function knobs that leave you a bit in the dark when editing unless you figure out with Chrome/midi 3rd party editing software online to go to town with the presets. It gets annoying but the pedal is rather amazing. Number one downside I found was I could not easily dial in certain types of more aggressive attack/decay tones to play punchy lines versus more pad oriented tones. I have the Enzo, Ottobit and Hedra on a Nano Plus board, I use these less often at moment but have them ready to add on via extra board. Boss SY-1 - I actually love this pedal and do not mind the tweaking on the dials, you get amazing polyphonic sounds quickly and easily. Downside is that you have to make some sacrifices to get it to integrate. For the sequencer aspect, I bought a Disaster Area Micro Clock to sync the tempo on it to the Line 6 gear - no issues, does Boss' NC setting and midi clock simultaneously. I use a TRS cable from the SY-1 to a separate latching pedal to also still use the sound hold function. Sacrifice is no control over tone settings/changes in real time unless with your hands and you can not also plug in an EXP pedal with the way I have it all set up. Currently this pedal is on a Metro 24 in the HX Effects Loop and usually runs into a Roland JC stereo. Boss SY-300 - I needed more after playing around with the SY-1 - this thing is awesome and is probably the most in line with what I wanted sonically and how many options for routing or midi control. Negative is the size of it, would be better in the footprint size of a DD-500/MD-500 but it is worth making the leap in size for sake of function and flexibility. I was able to make it fit onto several different boards in the 22-24" x 12.5-14.5" range with an HX Effects/Stomp, 2x Dunlop Mini EXPs and some type of Midi controller like the Morningstar MC6 to steer traffic better due to limited button layouts on both the SY-300 and the Stomp. I recently paired this with my HX Stomp as I could shift some FX block usage between the 2 units and route cleanly into a Headrush FRFR speaker and this become a main go to rig for several weeks at this point. I have not tried the SY-1000 yet because I know I would need to spend $1K on it then another ~$300-400 for GK pickup and installation. I am trying to avoid that rabbit hole still! Overall, depending on what you want to sound like and how much space you want to dedicate I found the SY-1 to be a favorite for the simpler/basic needs and jamming factor. The SY-300 would be my choice if I needed to build in a proper set list and robust preset grouping. Also, the interface on pedal vs software for the SY-300 is in the same realm logically as the HX interfaces/software, not much of a learning curve luckily.

Hello, I was able to get my Boss MS3 to send the CC4 message and I know the Stomp is detecting it. Issue is it seems to be turning the effect off and on as well moving the levels oddly. Is potentially an issue coming from the Boss unit as it feeds TRS then out as midi? I know Line 6 units like the TS exp cables but is that what might be happening here? Tonight, I will try hooking up a TS cable as exp 2 into the boss unit. I’m using a dual output Boss EV 30. I’ll switch midi commands and see. Another fix is run the TS cable straight to the HX from the same Boss EV30 if that solves it. Goal for me is to ideally save the FS 1/2 on HX for a 2 button switch and also not change too many settings on the MS3 since it finally recognized the EV30 properly.

Kilrahi - thank you! I was able to get it all working on first proper attempt. 1 mono FX block, all TS cables used and it’s a stereo return with both TS cables.

Hi, I admittedly have not had enough time to physically test the cable to make this work but I cannot seem to find a clear answer before I go down the rabbit hole- maybe somebody has had this pop up also? I bought the HX Stomp and want to use it with a Boss MS3 for a fly rig. My goal would be to hook up the MS3 in the FX Loop of the HX Stomp for maximum flexibility of effects ordering. The MS3 is a mono TS input with 2 stereo TS outputs. I want to use those stereo outputs for some of the delays and additional signal routing possible as a result. I am well versed in the HD500 from the past, Helix Native and also HX Effects for editing tones/signals and such. On the HX Stomp, can I create an FX block that allows for the mono send but with stereo returns on it? Any special work arounds to consider on this? I am pretty certain the MS3 will not like a TRS cable at it's input which would neutralize the FX TRS send, I just don't know how a TS cable on FX Send from HX Stomp will affect the block as a return in stereo. It seems like only real work around is 2 blocks, a mono send and then a stereo return - any other ways to do this as 1 block? Thank you all in advance for the help!!

I currently use with midi control an EHX Step 8 to control many effect parameters and it's amazing - Line 6 should add one that does even 16 steps or something! It could lead to some awesome automation of things already possible with an expression pedal as it is. Current fun setup for context- Roland JC running stereo, HX Effects controlling everything. Running in the effects loops - a Digitech FreqOut, EHX Mel9, Meris Ottobit Jr, Meris Enzo, and a Boss SL-20. Those last 3 are all midi synced. I use a Boss RC1 as a standalone looper but also as a line buffer running last from HX Effects to amp. For expression control I am using 2 Dunlop Mini's with 1 of them going into the EHX Step 8 then the HX Effects, depth seems best set at 4.

Thank you for writing, I hadn’t thought about from the gain perspective. I guess I blocked it out because of the curve factor! I did try again just now and saw that the software had the limitation. On the actual unit I could assign 2 different volume pedal blocks, software acts like AMPLIFi but the unit has deeper options for now. Also, as expected you can change exp assignments, 1, 2, both on 1 or 2, etc. I think I saw somewhere that spring 2019 is when the full features are being rolled out. Happy, safe, holidays to all reading!

Hello all! I was using my new HX Effects and getting deeper into my banks, I realized even though I have 2 expression pedals hooked up I was not able to add 2 different volume pedals as 2 different blocks. I like setting up stereo, splitting the the A/B into separate distortions and delays, figured each line needed a volume pedal! I realize I was trying this from the software and not the actual unit itself to adjust the blocks, there is a bit of time yet until the software does everything I was reading. I will try from the unit itself tomorrow when back at it in the AM. Has anyone else noticed this by any chance? Just curious in the meantime before I get to mess with it more myself. I'd love to request this in a future programming update.