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Paulzx

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  1. Short answer is you won't replicate the head phone tones through external speakers. I had a whole thread on this with the Helix. The same presets through head phones were much more aggressive and dynamic through any headphones I used - same presets through FRFR speakers nope! I have since dialled in better tones for the speakers but it's still not the same as the head phone sound. For whatever reason with these devices, they sound completely different through head phones. The confusion is when people say.. well that's because head phones are different from speakers, which is true, but of course you're expecting a better result from external speakers and it's the opposite. But you won't match the way your presets sound on head phones, I've been down that rabbit hole. Just forget about it and try and get the best tones you can specifically for your speakers.
  2. Paulzx

    White Wedding?

    I've been on a mission for a while now comparing different speaker solutions - really just trying to get my Helix to sound as good as it possibly could for all my high gain rock stuff, that's where I'm most fussy about the tone. I do have a DT50 amp which I have never run the Helix through actually but may do that just for experience.. my goal was to get the Helix to sound good but using FRFR as I didn't want to keep any amps nowadays, it takes up too much room amongst other issues. So I ended up with a very simple setup - In a small room, Helix on 1/4" cables running into x2 Yamaha HS7 monitor speakers, and when the presets are nicely set up, with stereo delays and reverbs, it's pretty damn good sound, albeit at low volume (not super low, just not obnoxious loud). The HS5's were okay but lacked a bit of low end, the HS8's were too big for the room, the Alto speakers were a horrible mud fest, the 7's were the sweet spot. To be honest, getting really good high gain out of the Helix, is a little bit of alchemy between all of these things, particularly between speakers, high and low cuts on the IR and parameters on the amp model. None of it is good out of the box, you have to develop a feel for the approach to this. How did you get on with Codamedia's white wedding patch?
  3. Paulzx

    White Wedding?

    Yep, there's a few things that do change the sound. In my experience I would say the output speakers have the most influence in that. The EQ, kind of, but you do need a decent tone to begin with. The more subtle use of EQ the better, it's good for cutting some stuff here and there. Of course you need to look at your high and low cut on the IR or cab sim first and foremost
  4. Paulzx

    White Wedding?

    You're in a similar situation to myself, only I've had my Helix for a number of years now and tried every trick in the book with it more or less. The speaker option does make a big difference, I ended up using a pair of FRFR speakers on stands which improved the sound a lot. I think you have to be using IR's in the Helix really, the stock cab sims are just not lively enough. The Axe FX would be a great option but for a more all in one solution like the Helix, FM3 or FM9 - but yes and I've said it many times before, the Helix is the best bang for buck unit you can buy, very versatile, very convenient, but not the best for high gain tones. I have got a decent 2204 Marshall tone dialled in on my Helix, but it took a long time to get it. This is why I'm interested to see if you crack it!
  5. Paulzx

    White Wedding?

    Oh really lol? I'll go back and have another listen. I went straight to the Plexi model after watching Ritchie Faulkner playing a real one at his house, but the Helix version was a bit lifeless by comparison, at that time at least. I would love to get a nice sounding Plexi model working though
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    White Wedding?

    Really? The old Zoom stuff, I remember it. Steve Stevens is using Fractal now obviously, you might be able to get the actual patches? Interested to see how close you get with the Helix though
  7. Yep know what you mean, just assign the blocks you want to foot switches in the normal way, go in to stomp mode then use command centre to move the snap shots around. The only weird thing that did happen was that on the upper row of foot switches, the first three snap shots are okay but that last switch just has a chorus on it - the chorus won't switch on, I have to hold the switch down to turn it on, then it goes off again after you take your foot off. None of the other switches do that. I know in command centre there was an option to change switch behaviour, but you can't access those options when there's only a block on the switch, I think it only works if there's a preset or snapshot on there. Strange though because i've never had any of my footswitches set to hold down
  8. Paulzx

    White Wedding?

    Interesting.. what gear where you using before then? Codamedia is probably spot on with Plexi or JCM 800 for the original recordings, I think you might struggle with the Helix Plexi though as it's not the best. Let us know if you crack it!
  9. I'll add to the above by saying if you're playing high gain stuff like Whitesnake (similar to what I play), you may be unsatisfied with the Helix high gain models, depending how fussy you are. If you're okay with a reasonable high gain tone, you'll be fine. The Helix has a lot of versatility so you'll cure the pedal problem easily enough. If you are fussy about the high gain sound, I would consider a Fractal FM3. I know it's not popular to say it but truthfully, it does high gain better than most amp modellers. Helix does everything else pretty well, it just lacks a bit in the high gain authenticity, but as I say, it depends how fussy you are on those types of tones.
  10. Interesting project.. Quite surprised anyone is doing a dedicated STP tribute band, they were one of the better grunge bands, but not the type of high profile band you expect to see done as a tribute. I'm impressed you're researching and learning to play the songs of a band that you're not really a fan of - that takes a bit of dedication I reckon! Be interesting to see how it goes
  11. Agreed.. that would be useful
  12. Ah okay maybe that's where I was going wrong, I need to be in stomp mode. I didn't see an option to assign a block, only a preset or snapshot
  13. Thanks for confirming Phil..
  14. Just trying to get more into the command centre features and thought I would like to customise my foot switch layout by combining some snaps and stomps amongst the 8 foot switches I have available. I don't want the 4 snaps / 4 stomp setup, I want to put a different mix of blocks or effects on some switches then five or six snaps on the other foot switches but using the 8 foot switch mode. I don't think you can do this because command centre only let's you assign snaps or presets to each foot switch I think.. not actual effect blocks?
  15. If you want cheap and decent - yamaha HS5, or HS7 if you want a bit better sound. I can vouch for both of those and they're probably the best low cost solution that I came across. If you're talking cheaper than that, I don't know but no doubt there is something out there.
  16. Welcome to my world mate.. Only difference is, I've had the Helix for years but did quite a lot of research on the Fractals recently. The basic upshot is that if you have the budget, An Axe III is the best unit you can get. That is rather reinforced by the long list of stellar performers who are using it - regardless of what anyone says, there is a reason people rate it so highly. I was considering an FM3 but the release of the FM9 muddied the waters a bit, both of those units are producing very high quality sounds, just less power than the Axe fx. The Helix loses out a bit on the sound quality, but I still believe it to be the best all round unit for the price because the versatility is un-matched. It's just down to how much you value the extra quality the fractals are delivering. Naturally you're going to get people defending the Helix, including me.. I am really enjoying my Helix and getting improved tones now I understand it better and the speaker output options better, so I've delayed my jump to Fractal, but it will come eventually. I've spoken to a lot of guys who were Helix owners who went over to Fractal, they all liked the Helix but say the Fractals are so good out of the box, it was a no brainer. Some people have said all modelers can sound identical. I would dispute that. I know I can get my Helix to sound similar to the same type of patch on a fractal, but ultimately the amp models, especially high gain, are just better. If they weren't, you would not have so many people move over to them. There is a reason many people go from Helix to Fractal, they never go the other way! In summary, I would say if you want to do the best job possible on the lowest budget, get a Helix, no contest, it still is a great piece of kit. If you have an unlimited budget and just want the all out best thing, then it's the Axe III, followed by an FM9.
  17. I'm not totally clear on what you were asking, but if it is to do with how to change the snapshot values in each parameter in HX Edit.. You have to press S on your keyboard to put the parameter into snapshot brackets, as opposed to on the unit itself where you just push the dial in and turn.
  18. You could go on forever with different IR's. They were a revelation when they came on the scene, now it's just another tweaking mission to add to tweaking mission we already had before lol, always searching for that perfect IR, or one that sounds maybe a bit better than what you had. I don't know how similar each vendor's IR's are for the same cabinet's, but so far in my experience, the fremen marshall stuff is pretty good. The guy from Tonewars on youtube had two IR's based on a Diezel I think, foe sale on the marketplace. Those, and the fremen's are the best I've used so far, although they are for heavier tone than the video above I expect
  19. Nice job Nick, as always! Can you tell me what your favourite high gain ownhammer IR's are so I can pick some up? I seem to have some from everyone except them..
  20. Yep sounds like there's a bit of chorus on that opening riff doesn't there, but also they way they tone shape that sound is by dropping the mids a bit, dropping the treble and cutting some of the highs, opposite of what they used to do. It's a darker thicker tone now but still based on that Marshall JMP
  21. Same experience here. You can learn how they set things up but I always end up pulling it apart and virtually re building the preset
  22. Being brutally honest, no amount of tweaking made them sound right lol. I actually requested this from Scott and shortly after, he decided to make one an sell it, but I've done closer matches myself. I like Scott's channel and I try and support these guys work where I can but I wouldn't recommend buying this particular preset. I didn't think it sounded brilliant even when he did the demo video. Trouble is I'm a huge Leppard fan and I've analysed the guitar tones for many years so if somethings a bit off I can hear it straight away. I'll revisit the preset and see if it can be modified. Maybe with better IR's etc. One of the problems with this hysteria album tone matching with the rockman IR's of course is that the distortion tones sound like Boston but when Leppard used the unit they had it to bits re wired it, re eq'd it and so on their recordings although you can hear some of that rockman tone in the distortion tones, it doesn't really sound like,e the X100 unit, they changed the sound so it wouldn't, which makes it very hard to get those tones with a dedicated rockman IR. The cleans do sound a lot more rockman like, compressed, pingy shimmery etc but very full sounding
  23. Nice one, I'll be interested to try these too
  24. I bought these from Scott, to be fair, there have been much closer attempts by others since he made this. One guy came up with an IR that was really chasing that compressed Hysteria clean sound and it's damn near spot on. Of course this is the album sound though, not the live sound
  25. You're in my world now with this one, forget all the rockman stuff, that was Hysteria & Adrenalize album tone, the live sound has evolved over the years with different gear, ultimately to right now, which is Axe FXIII and the fractal guys have actually given some info on the settings for that. Some of the info stated above is correct, it was always based on the JCM800 but they also had the Palmer speaker simulator in that rig which did influence the sound quite a bit. If you listen to live stuff over the last ten years or so, the guitar tones have changed quite a bit. They always favoured cutting the low end right out of the tone at one point, to more of a tuned down growly marshall processed tone more recently. I'll try out some of the stuff above too, I've got a tone for this dialled in using the modded 2204, you have to EQ it quite a bit so it's not fizzy though - do you think you've cracked it then?
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