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Volume knob setting when playing through a PA system
theElevators replied to efwfew's topic in POD Go
Correct way is to have your output be fixed at MIC level. Or whatever has the lowest signal level. Leave it at that, and have the volume knob only control your personal monitor mix, which is "amp out". -
Ways to achieve consistent sound levels across presets?
theElevators replied to Vanderdecker's topic in Helix
Look at the Edge as an example of a variety of sounds that he used to recreate before he started using Fractal.... He used to have something like 6 vintage amps with him for different songs. He also used a different guitar for every song. With a well-paid sound guy, this works. For bar band gigs, that is not very possible, with a random sound guy who doesn't even know your set or when your solos are. I remember in the old days, using a minimal amount of gear: distortion/wah + amp took at least 15 minutes of sound check, to make sure that things are EQ'ed correctly. To play a gig properly if you absolutely must have 10 different amps/chains, you need 10 different sound checks. That's just an axiom. Want to sound good? Sound check every sound. Otherwise the sound guy will constantly be chasing after your sounds, adjusting throughout the gig, turning you down, bringing you up. I suggest minimizing the amount of amp variety at the very least. I myself play a bunch of stuff from covers, to pop, to rock, blues and originals. I use one amp for everything: Mail Order Twin, which I use on a very clean. Just being reasonable in how you approach your sound is key. You can have every song use a completely different amp/cab, but should you? Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should. That's my argument. Back in the day before modellers most people would just play with one amp, and be able to successfully make a living playing in wedding bands. Just sayin' :) My sources: I've played a lot of clubs all over Europe, USA and Canada and have seen what works and what doesn't. -
BTW also if you are recording with studio monitors, the sound from the monitors gets picked up by the guitar/bass pickups as well! I was listening to isolated tracks from one of my concerts and could faintly hear the rest of the band in the isolated track! I was running my guitar direct btw... But it's a live concert, so that was more pronounced, with all the distortion, all pickups are more-ore-less microphonic.
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Because historically that's how presets were organized on older Line 6 models. You would be able to choose 4 presets on the bottom row "A, B C D", and on top you would be able to select which effects to turn on/off. Before snapshots, before command center.
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Ways to achieve consistent sound levels across presets?
theElevators replied to Vanderdecker's topic in Helix
Speaking from experience. Every amp is EQ'ed differently. Depending on how the sound guy is running the guitar, certain frequencies appear louder than others. It's just how it is. You can measure things all you want, run things at home, or during the rehearsal, but one day one of your presets thing is just going to cut through everything like an icepick. Or completely disappear. And everybody will look at you like you're insane (been there). I've done a lot of sound checks, where the sound works at home, but then when you turn it on, on a large PA, it is just too loud, or not loud enough. Been there many many times, and was forced to make adjustments. Then also have been in a situation where something worked perfectly from the previous night, and in a different venue that same sound needs to be adjusted the opposite way. Frustrating! So with completely different amps, this stuff can and does happen. Most of the time if you think it is not happening, the sound guy does not want to tell you everything that is wrong with your sounds. I have had a sound guy who loved to tell me those things, to my annoyance. -
Cool thanks. It's interesting, I almost never download people's presets. But on my Texas Special-equipped 'Strat, it sounds very different from what you sound like. Sounds like me :) I made a few tweaks. 1. The amp block was making a lot of humming/droning noise for single notes. I completely removed the "Ripple" from it. 2. In the compressor, I set the threshold to 0.0 db. It feels better that way to me. Maybe your pickups are hotter than mine.
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Ways to achieve consistent sound levels across presets?
theElevators replied to Vanderdecker's topic in Helix
Pick a signal chain and stick with it. It's impossible to make 2 completely different presets with different amps/cabs to sound consistent. So do what I do: create one preset, and then create copies of it with slight variations. Otherwise, with different PAs, if you have different virtual rigs, the volume jumps are inevitable. Plus you know how in the olden days during a sound check, you'd check your sound? Well imagine having to do this for 20 times, since you have 20 different presets that all sound different? Volume leveling is just one piece of the puzzle, every amp is EQ'ed differently. So even if it sounds like the volume is the same, the sound guy will have to make sound adjustments when you switch from a Marshall to a Vox. -
If it has an SD drive, if it can play backing tracks, dial out guitar from .mp3 files (which it does), it has the capability of storing the loop. That's my only source...
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I'm sure there'll be a sophisticated looper with an ability to store/recall loops onto a flash drive.
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I don't know... the rack version will be probably released after the main flagship product. The original Helix rack was released in 2016, a year or so after the Floor. BTW, the rack counterparts to processors may be on the decline overall. Is there a Quad Cortex rack? Or Headrush rack? Nope!
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Do you have any stereo modulation or delay effects? Maybe you are getting the "wet" side of your signal and not the "dry"? 1. I would suggest taking your signal chain and bypassing everything where you first have your dry guitar signal. Then go and turn on (un-bypass) one block on at a time. You should hear at what point your sound becomes washy and in the background. 2. Also sometimes stereo effects that are summed into one channel (Left/Mono) can sound weird. For example, the ADT for me always sounds completely different in stereo vs. the same exact signal chain summed into mono: it happens due to phasing. Also I have been plagued by the "Left/Mono" bug for many Helix versions, until the latest one. Make sure this is not what is happening to you.
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People seem to have forgotten that Line 6 Survey from a year or so ago!
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In terms of size, the button spacing is going to be exactly the same. Helix Floor has extra metal "bumpers" on both sides, plus more "padding" after the scribble strips end. Trim that extra metal and you have successfully made it smaller. Same for the expression pedal--it's now more narrow, so that saves even more space. Honestly, if the buttons of the same quality as before, I am not bothering with getting Helix Stadium. I'm constantly nagging how they are not reliable, which for me they are not. Then, all this new technology is way beyond what I would ever need for recording/touring. I've reached a point that if something sounds great and works for me, I don't need to attempt to improve things even more. Furthermore, the thought of redoing everything for me just sounds like a very big headache. Like I've found my ideal signal chain, and I don't need to try to reinvent what works for me. For all new presets, I just take something I've made already, and slightly tweak it. I'm using the same amp/distortion that I discovered back in 2019. The only thing I've changed was last year I started adding a compressor between the amp and a cab, which does wonders. Helix Floor / LT for me are a complete guitar sound solution, which I know inside-out. The same could not be said about the Pod HD series, for example: no snapshots, no acoustic simulator, very limited signal chain, clunky and unintuitive UI. When I go on tour, I have to have an exact compatible backup processor with me at all times... If I switch over to the Helix Stadium, I'd need to buy 2 of them... that's a lot of money lol. I foresee an even further price drop on the Helixes soon. I remember Pod HD 500X were going for as low as 400USD towards the end, several years after the Helix was introduced. So maybe I'll just get another backup Helix for myself and continue to beat up my current 2 Helixes.
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Helix Stadium!!! woooohoo!!! I love that they brought back the step design. Not sure if the foot switches are same as before. Looks pretty slick. Not a fan of the thinner EXP pedal... This thing will be so complicated....
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Will they announce new hardware? firmware? nobody knows! lol