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  1. Yeah, but apparently his pedal isn't buffered, it's a true bypass pedal!
  2. It seems to work just plugged in. I use mostly clean tones, and it's a very noticeable difference on the high ends. Are you sure? Technically, it should not! Is this your pedal? JOYO JF-38 Roll Boost Guitar Effect Pedal - True Bypass https://www.joyoaudio.com/product/76.html So unless your guitar is not true bypass, it should not affect your tone in the Pod Go at all when the effect is turned off. Specs from amazon say "Output Impedance: 1KΩ", so same as buffered pedals, so yeah when the effect is on, it would likely have an affect, but not when off. :) Anyway, interesting conclusions to draw: 1) power of placebo. Never underestimate its power!!! 2) the PGO impedance issue isn't traumatic; if users can't notice if it's on/off, Maybe some think they can hear the issue with their own Go, when in fact their Go doesn't have the issue lol
  3. The issue isn't that it's not possible to build good presets, it's that it could be way faster and easier, less tedious, more practical, etc. with contextual help. It's something that does not exist for Pod Go. https://www.knowledgeowl.com/home/contextual-help But you're asking for something that you can already do. You can already download a patch where you have 8 dynamic blocks. It's super easy, it takes less than 2 minutes. So ironically, you're asking for more 'flexibility' by adding a feature that the Go already has, a one time 2 minutes effort that you can do yourself, while at the same time, rejecting true practicality by saying that you can still build good presets... The irony............. LOL ( not really funny... Morel like; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5aKZSF9EM but yeah... reminder of why democracy doesn't work, why the west is falling, etc. lolol)
  4. I for one, know for a fact that when a new product comes out, it makes others sound worse. And I don't mean in an Apple kind of way, where they covertly and deliberately make your phone runs slower when a new Apple phone comes out; or 'optimize battery'. You, my friend, are underestimating the power of placebo...! :D But yeah it's hard to have a clear view of what is what... With for instance YT 'reviews' which are often little more than paid advertisements, over-excited users hyping what they own, poor comparisons (just using presets or having 1 unit louder than the other, or bad/different EQ, etc.), PLACEBO about the newer thing sounding better (disappears in blind testing conditions), different cab/mic/IR, etc., really hard to know what's what. I remember when the Helix Alias fix/improvement came out, I tried to listen to it, and it was really on the insignificant / barely audible/detectable, but still some would say it makes a huge difference..... I watched a few comparison vids, Go vs this and that. Side by side, with its excellent effects and all, it tends to hold its own I think with pretty much anything. I don't think that at the level it is, that it's ever going to be blown away, since I mean already in a blind test vs real amps, it's really hard to tell them apart. I think also that the effects in Go / Helix are excellent, so when comparing vs Axe Fractal or Neuro Quad or whatnot, when ex; testing the shimmer, reverb, delays, etc., it holds its own. Even vs that Big Sky $500 dedicate reverb box I don't know the name, I mean, it's not identical but pretty darn close. Even heard some claim the Dynamic Hall is just as good as anything out there...! But even the reverbs pre recent updates where somewhat comparable. Don't think competitors fare that well there with their budget units. So yeah not perfect; could be simpler imho. But far from being 'old' or obsolete it looks like. Sure, more powerfull stuff for more $, attractive features here and there, but I can see new users go for Go. Still attractive units today despite everything. Every unit has its quirks and shortcomings. PGO Edit for instance, not perfect, but 100x better than having no editing software! Not all units get new fancy effects/amps too, etc. etc.,
  5. I'll disagree a bit with Vox here! The Go really benefits from some effects; for instance, the Dynamic Hall/Plate reverb, the Shimmer reverb, etc., these are extremely nice features to get as freebies, so yeah a big YMMV. For me these were fantastic additions, but that's not something I would say for all effects... But reading a bit the comments and tutorials and stuff, for instance for the Amps, some have said that the new amps just sound better and better, even if the L6 process to create them is the same as the original amps. Amps are kinda crucial, so I don't doubt one sec that most of the users are glad to have new great sounding amps. Again, YMMV. FWI, the Benzin is one of my favs, it's a new amp. The US Princess is another community favourite I think, so kinda nice to have. What I'd really like to see is some sort of contextual help. In PGO Edit, when configuring an amp/effect, being able to put your cursor on a setting and getting the explanation. That would be GREAT help, as often you have no clue what a setting does, so having a hint / mouseover with short explanation would do wonders for improving user experience, as having to do a web search for the info every 10s is a pain. If the mouseover could give tips that would be even better. (like "value ~5 is recommended, but 7 is great for ___ and try value 3 with this other parameter at 7 for _____!" ++ for the rest of Vox's post!
  6. btw do these work ok for any of you? I tried them briefly yesterday, and they seem to track ok for one note, but it goes completely garbled if there are more than one note at a time. Which I'm sure is normal; not polyphonic or whatever the word is. But even with one note, seems to be a bit bugged... For the String Theory for instance, the way it works, as you play a note, plays the string. Each string note has a start, middle and end. The start/end being when the bow starts/stops moving, so very soft, the middle is the note playing; so loud string noise, then the end, bow stops, so goes very soft. As you play many notes, it goes to this iteration quickly, but if you're playing quickly, it just tends sticks to 'middle' where it's loud. Great! BUT, sometimes it bugs out, and it just stays soft all the time... Then you don't hear any string noise anymore, just muffled noises. Maybe it was my settings, was using a clean amp, is there any tips for it to work better? But yeah, for me, it felt a bit uncontrollable and unpredictable. Don't think it was my picking or anything; really like if it was bugging out ...! It almost felt like it was the DSP; like if there was too many things going on and the Go could not keep up and the effect just bugged out.. But yeah maybe it's just me also, maybe I was doing something wrong?!
  7. OH SNAP!! Nice! :D Ha! Ok just a FYI, last step of PGO update; <Update complete. yaddayadda successfully 1.3 to 1.4 yaddayadda, POD GO is rebuilding its preset library and will reconnect to Pod Go edit in a few minutes.> It won't reconnect automatically to Edit, you can click back to Edit, and if it's done it's going to connect, if it's not done I guess it won't... (I was waiting for it to switch back but I don't think it's going to switch back by itself lol) And again just to be sure, when restoring the backup after updating and factory reset, you're also better off restoring the 1.3 presets over the 1.4 presets?
  8. Think your issue might be that if your Blackstar isn't 100% clean (distortion/gain), so your amp will distort multiple simultaneous sounds and that is why you think the looper is bad quality. A little bit like with overdrive, a single note sounds relatively clean, but a power chord gets nasty. So if you're looping multiple samples, you're getting the power chord effect from your amp. Maybe. Basically, your amp should be 100% clean, which sometimes isn't the case even when you set the drive/gain to 0. Being Blackstar, maybe ... [EDIT] But looking at the amp, woa, nice tube amp with a clean channel, so that might not be it either. But tubes, always have some inherent distortion.. What you can also try to confirm if that is your issue, connect headphones to the go and see if you're hearing the same thing when using the Looper. Headphones is really a quick easy test to do. Otherwise, yeah, as phil mentioned, the more layers you add, the less clear everything becomes; trait of loopers I think, any noise also gets compounded, so if you have any noise, adding multiple layers of it every time just degrades the overall looped sample.
  9. btw, the impedance is supposedly solved for new units, and getting fixed for free by L6 for existing users. Also, about DSP... Well... Yeah... It makes the decision harder. When it was released, it wasn't really an issue as nothing else was comparable, and just getting Helix quality in 450, well, for me that was a ridiculously easy choice, having considered buying the Helix earlier. But today......... I wouldn't say competition is 'more powerful', since I'm not sure the cost & FX quality and all.... But for instance, the MX5 has no accompanying software, so even if PG Edit isn't perfect, it's way more practical than fiddling on the tiny touch screen and all. And Go has Helix FX quality. Soo... BOSS has BOSS Tone Studio.. Hmm.. Anyway, not as an easy decision as 2020. :) Good luck! But yeah, nothing wrong with waiting a couple of months/years also, you likely have a current rig, so if it does the job. If L6 doesn't release anything new, likely other companies will also. But Go's resale is likely good, could probably get 300 I'm guessing for it, so for a 1-2 year 'rental' definitely cheap.
  10. Think the V2 was the wireless. So the next one if there is one would be the PGO V3. But that said, I don't see it either. PGO is based on Helix, and as long as there's no new Helix, and I don't see L6 build new algorithms or whatever for the Go before the Helix. A more powerful Go would just, imho, cannibalize more expensive units, and it would be a bit redundant. You can read my thread about competitors, but having looked a bit into it, I think the Go is still very relevant and has a unique set of features. So it's not obsolete. And Helix sound for ~450.... It's never going to be 'bad'/obsolete. I think if you like the Go's set of features, I'd recommend buying. If you don't, in 3 years you might be in the exact same place, and there might not be more info about any new versions. Just take the Helix as Vox mentioned, it's 7 years old, and there's no news of a new version. So if you wanted the Helix but waited for its updated version, you'd still be waiting. But who knows really! There's the HX Stomp XL, and I'd not have predicted that coming out. There could be a Pod Go XL, with more DSP and some extra stuff, who knows!
  11. Don't let the lack of switches fool you, for the MX5 at least, there appears to be different modes you can set it to, and basically it's the equivalent of PG's snapshot mode; https://youtu.be/_m7o9LbI-xU?t=1977 and again, if there's no Pod Go sound cut off when switching different patches, then you can go from one patch to the other so really you don't need a dozen buttons, you can just setup patches for every sound you need. The drawback to the HR unit seems to be sound quality; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgUE6po_Cyw So the quality of high gain amps might be lower to Go, but, somehow I've read lots of comments of how amazing it sounds so again, who the hell knows... Likely 'good enough' for most, but not as good as others... Even the Helix/Go, some have complained or stated that it didn't sound as good as this or that unit, others have said the opposite, anyway, HR MX5, probably ranks lower than the top dogs. Like everything; YMMV, subjective opinions and all of that. So I don't know... Guess Go is still in the running, switching from Go to another might be more like a side step rather than an upgrade at the moment; all have +/-, so just subjective choice; not like it's clearly inferior to the newer stuff out there.
  12. That's quite the absolute statement! It's a bit funny to hear when you think about how musicians for so long have been gigging with pedalboards and even just simple amps. Are you absolutely certain that it would be impossible to gig with those? ;) But yeah seriously I don't really have an opinion on the matter, I think many would disagree with you as reading comments many do seem to use ex; MX5 for gigs. But yeah, ymmv. Some reviews seriously stated that you wouldn't gig with the Go because its rear is made of plastic. LOL Also, I really doubt that most people buy the Pod Go to do gigs. It would be a really weird choice too. I'd think at least you'd get an Helix LT or something, if you were a pro & did gigs... But what do I know!
  13. Thx, fixed! Added Hotone Ampero which is yet another multi-FX unit, with apparently great user experience (configuring patches). Yep, market is pretty crazy...!
  14. (tried editing above to add but edit bugging out...) Yeah and reading some of the comments on the MX5... (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vvc5RExeDY) complexity is recurrent complaint seems like. I for sure won't make the switch, I don't think I'll be buying a HR MX5 for now, but damn... Yep... Like the Boss, if it was today, HR is looking mighty attractive too. [edit] But yeah HR MX5 for amps and all, plus PGO maybe for the sweet reverbs like Ganymede and Dynamic Hall (I'm a real sucker for fancy reverbs, and not sure how the MX5's compare), I could actually see this in the future. And cheaper than the Boss too! At ~630, it feels a bit like ~500, which is almost in budget price; kinda feels like budget / throw away money... At 830, 960 with taxes, you're nearly hitting 1000, which is double than 500, it's like a big jump mentally. Like yeah you're spending more serious money. Are you getting 2x as more with the Boss as the MX5? Just a couple hundred bucks, but it just feels different given the price brackets..
  15. Yeah, but to be fair, looking at the prices: - 629 / 719$cdn for Go/GoWireless. - 829$cdn for Boss GX100. So ~30% more than the non-W Go. Add taxes, 960 vs 730, $230 cdn difference after taxes... It's significant, not huge, but Go is still cheaper. Headrush MX5 = 629, so identical, Hr Gigboard = 899. Zoom G6 is 349. Mooer is ~700. Valeton GP200 is ~460 looks like. Hotone Ampero is 370 Haven't looked much into any of these, but as I said, I'd likely check them out and if I had to choose today...... Who knows! Maybe a price drop is also incoming for the Go, or new version or replacement coming up. Would depend on sales and all. The Headrush MX5 looks very cool also. It actually looks closer to what I was describing in amps/mics/ir, effects #, etc. Number of Effects: 63 Effects Types: Distortion, Dynamics, Modulation, Reverb, Delay, FX Loop, Expression Amp Modeling: 46 x Amp Models, 15 x Cabinets, 10 x Microphone Emulations Impulse Response: 300 x IRs, 3rd Party Support I think before owning the Go, the # of amps, effects, etc., were a plus, but after 2 years and my usage... Not even that it's a plus, maybe it's even too much.. Hell, the MX5 has DUAL AMPS AND DUAL CABS ........ !!! It's really a small sexy unit too. Looking at a vid I see something like 9 blocks for effects, maybe its limited by DSP but still, 4 vs 9. 9 > 4. It's FIVE extra. That's more than twice as much as the Go. Ouch.... Touch screen...
  16. Hmm... That sounds pretty good! Yeah also a bit more expensive if you don't go PGO wireless. The snapshots are a bit of a workaround for the Go's issue that the sounds cuts out when you switch patches. Means you can't switch patch mid-song.. But Boss, you don't have that sound cut off, so you can just make 4 patches and it's even better than snapshots, which are more a pain in the butt to edit than regular patches. So it's way more flexible as you can literally go from anything to anything, and 200 patches is plenty... Effects trail carry if both patches contain the same effect if I recall. "Up to 15 simultaneous effect blocks provide unlimited tone possibilities" <-- Go users begging to unlock a 5th block if DSP is available. LOL nd yeah, from the comparisons, maybe it's because newer units are newer, but people tend to go for the newer units rather than the aging Go. Doesn't make it worse than it was ever, just So that L6 has its work cutout for the Go, if it wants it to remain competitive, it would really benefit from improving it as much as possible, because it's apparently getting left behind by its competitors.
  17. And yeah, obviously, I still think the PGo is an INCREDIBLE machine. It's mind-blowing what it can achieve, everything you can do with it, it's relatively cheap price, quality of amps, effects, etc. It's downright amazing and honestly mind-blowing. I really love it. Is it perfect? No. Do I regret the purchase? Obviously not. I'm still amazed with it today. The updates with new effects/amps/etc., just the cherry on top. Really fantastic unit, great product. The above comment has a lot of criticism, but even with the UI, firmware issues and all, highly positive experience, and I haven't regretted my choice for a second. Like minor gripes, which can be solved, ex; using best IR solves the cab/mic/IR issue. You learn 3-4 amps, reverbs, distortion pedals, etc., which takes time, but once you've learned, it's learned, and you definitely don't have to learn ALL the amps, effects, etc., you don't even need to know what all the settings/effects do. You can just use part of it and it's still perfectly fine. I'll likely not 'upgrade', it's really just a passing thought which popped up seeing a vid, which got me curious. But who knows, maybe! ;) :D
  18. An upside to the Go though is that it does have some excellent effects. So even if you were to get a new unit for some reason, there would still be use from the Go as an FX unit; bypassing amp & cab, just using for the fancy reverbs, looper, etc., Competition - Boss GX-100 - Mooer GE300 - Headrush MX-5 - Valeton GP200 - Zoom G6 There's a bunch of also cheaper effects, at 1/2 the price, but even if somehow the sound quality of the cheaper units was great, I think all these lose out in flexibility, like ordering effects, PC software, colour screen, etc. Think I'd have a hard time choosing given the Go's alternatives today. Indeed, two years ago, going Go was the obvious and easy choice as there wasn't that much competition imho. Go's complexity The biggest drawbacks imho to Go is complexity. I'm still not super happy with the cab/mic and IR side. Out of my 100ish IRs, I'm often just scrolling and scrolling and the majority sounds like 'crap' to my ears. They may be imitating real cabs and real mics, but I don't really care, I'd just want 'good sound', I'm not really interested in being 100% accurate to the real thing; I'd just rather have a bunch of great sounding emulated/virtual cabs even if they aren't accurate to existing cabs. In fact, I was wondering if 'optimal' or 'virtual' IRs exist, some do; like mixes of different cabs... I'll definitely have to look into that. Cabs, mics, mics distance, IRs ... 99% of the time I'm messing with Go, I use the Best IR in the world, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6rovO03DA since yeah obviously it's the best IR in the world! I've not wrapped my head around cabs + mics. The cab + mic + distance is just too much for my brain (memory & understanding), and I can't get a good grasp / ability of thinking of a sound and getting it by tweaking the settings. Too many combinations of mics, cabs, add the distance, the hundreds of cabs and mics combinations, it's just too much for my brain. Do we really need so many cabs and effects? How many different compressors do you need? It's the same for the effects; amps, etc., it takes a long time to really know 1 effect (ex; dynamic hall reverb, or glitz, compressors.), so even after 2 years, I'm really far from being a PGO expert. Hell, Go is too much for my brain. I'd say I'm maybe familiar with ~10%; I'm starting to know some amps, effects, but I've got what, maybe 3 dozen patches I've built up, and maybe 6 dozen downloaded patches, and I'm mostly using the same ~10 favourite patches, which I'm still tweaking.. Who is Go best for? So in the end, maybe the Go is best for musicians, experts who really want 'real life' simulation. For an amateur like myself, maybe a simpler unit would have been best. How many cabs do we need? How many amps? If we had just 12 great amps, even if they're not based on real amps; bit like the Boss Katana or L6 Spider type of logic; 'brown sound', 'crunch', 'metal', etc., with like 12 amazing IRs, that would have been waaaaay better and sufficient for me. Maybe we don't even need cab/IR block in reality, you get some EQ capabilities with amps & EQs, I'd prefer having say 24 amps and no cab/mic block, vs 12 amps + 12 cabs. The 24 amps would be tweaked amp/cabs/ir combinations, so great sounding 'presets' for the genre, vs you having to find which combinations works and doesn't work; so; tweaked presets, vs you having to resolve the puzzle of what works/doesn't... So; someone having done the work to give you great Amp + cab/IR combinations, rather than you having to figure/tweak everything yourself. Do you need a PhD in Pod Go? Not really, Go is simple enough so that anyone can fiddle with it and get basic good sound in just a few minutes. BUT, if you want to extract the most out of the Go, and make it sound it's best, or exactly like you want, it's really not that simple. The devil is in the details. And IMHO, the more complex, the more true, and Go is extremely complex. Pre-conclusion So yeah, imho Go is still a great unit in terms of sound quality, capabilities, etc., still a great option, but yeah I don't really know the competition, which seems somewhat overwhelming/overtaking the Go. Think yeah the go is starting to be a bit underpowered from some of the comparisons I've seen... Hell.. I said I wasn't looking for an upgrade... But thinking, maybe I'll start looking at the details of what's out there. Is tweaking Go fun or work? And honestly, the reason is that PGO feels like work. It's like getting a PhD in PGO. And using the Go 'correctly' is using a bunch complex formulas; it really does feel like work in a sense. You can mess with effects/settings/etc., but it's always frustrating that everything is always so complicated; like a simple thing; a stupid mouseover which explains what a setting is................ Instead... It's having to get on the computer and do a web search for w-t-f a setting does .......... That's not fun.......... And in the end, you're all too often overwhelmed. So... Meh... Future? So yeah, ditching that for a simpler unit honestly feels somewhat exciting. If somehow you're getting improved sound quality, huge bonus, but in the end, since getting the best out of the Go is so complex............. You're going to get better results if the unit is simpler to use. Like the Dynamic Hall......... I've been wrestling with it for a couple of weeks. Sure, I've managed to make it sound good, but it's always like i'm missing the last 10% that I just can't get quite right... Ex; videos demoing sound, the reverb will sound better to my ears on the video than on my Go it seems........! Conclusion So yeah, if getting to the finish line is made easier by having less options/complexity; a simpler unit helping you to get great results without overwhelming you with a gazillion options, that would be best for me. That may be the Go's biggest drawback for myself. It's not the lack of outputs, parallel paths, multiple amps, not enough DSP or blocks, sound cut during patch change, etc., it's just that the thing is a bit of a pain to use due to its complexity. (Not as per switching amp is complicated; but so many amps and so many amp settings, or so many effects and so many nebulous effects settings, etc.)
  19. Looking forward to the next Go update! Lots of cool stuff in the 3.15 helix firmware which PGO 1.4 patch likely would inherit from. But we already got some parts of the 3.15 firmware it appears, like the dynamic hall reverb, is there a sort of readme of what the next Go update might contain?
  20. Wow! Impressive work. It got me thinking that trying to reach someone from L6 might be really beneficial. There really is nothing sensitive about the json patch format imho, and if community tools popped up which allowed to convert helix patches to pod go patches or the such, I'm sure it would be for the benefit of L6; having Go users having access to Helix patches might influence potential buyers to going with Go rather than a competitor. It's even something I'm sure L6 would like to put out; if they had free devs, I'm certain they'd love to offer such tools to their user base. So if community tools might be a thing, maybe L6 could provide some documentation about the 2 formats; helix and go. BTW, there already exists a Helix patch visualizer: https://dbagchee.github.io/helix-preset-viewer/ Maybe contacting the creator of the above for coop, as if you could collaborate to create an exporter using his reader, that would save you a lot of work and likely improve both projects; harnessing power of the community.
  21. Just curious if some of you have been following the multi-FX units lately and have a decent understanding of where the Go sits these days? It's barely been 2 years since I bought mine, really not thinking of selling or upgrading, but it seems that there's been quite a few additions to the list of competitors, and I'm just curious how they all stack up vs the Go.
  22. Thx for the info! Somehow had missed that one. (It wasn't nearly as cleared last time I checked). I'm wondering if it's worth fixing... Has the fix been made public yet? If it's just replacing a cap or something... And yeah I agree, the issue isn't dramatic. Once you add EQ, an amp, an IR or cab/mic, reverb, distortion, etc., the more tone changing you do, the less important the issue becomes. BUT, that also means that the cleaner your tone, the more you are to notice the issues. Think clean strat tone is worse. Also, not 100% sure, but I think some guitars might be affected more than others, esp single coils vs humbuckers... Don't think I'll send it in myself... Putting in a pedal in front isn't a big deal, otherwise, for most of my patches I just likely wouldn't know the difference either way. No L6 service in my city, 1 week isn't the end of the world, but could be more, could be issues, bleh!
  23. It appears to be a true bypass pedal though, so, does it only work when it's turned on? BOSS and other buffered pedals work whether or not the pedal switch is on/off, so can be used on/off for the fix, but a true bypass pedal, if it works when on, likely doesn't work when the pedal is off... For myself, I didn't buy anything new... Using an old Akai Looper between the guitar and Go, and using a 2nd Amoon Nano Looper in the Go's FX loop...! Bit weird to use 2 loopers, but the 1st one is used for PGO fix and for tweaking patches (play sample, repeat, tweak patch while sample plays), and the 2nd looper is used as a 'true' Looper; FX loops configured at the end of the chain, so when playing I can record a sample using Patch 1 (clean) and then switch to Patch 2 (distort) and play over recording. So lot more flexible.
  24. Did you try what was recommended in the comment just above yours? If so, what were your thoughts? From what I quickly saw, looks like your amp has no aux/cd in so what is recommended above is very likely your best bet. No miracle solution I'm afraid!
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