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HX Stomp with Simplifier Deluxe issues
Beckybrown posted a topic in HelixHi Guys, I have my HX stomp in the effects loop of a Simplifier Deluxe. With help frm this forum and TGP, I’ve got a ‘parallel amp’ set up w stereo fx frm the stomp. It’s set up in 7CM and the Simplifier DLX XLR outs go to the PA. I should have a pretty good sound going here, yes I now have minimal latency and better response/feel (which was a big goal) HOWEVER when I engage any gain, there’s that awful fizzy sound that almost sounds like a digital clipping thing. Like frequencies are clashing? I’ve APPLIED LOW & HIGH CUTS and though that’s improved the tone, I’m still getting these digital ‘overtones’ esp on the higher strings. Am not sure whether it’s something I’ve done or haven’t (!) or it’s just a reality of ‘analog’ modelling. Perhaps the Simplifier and the HX just don’t react well together in this set up? Here’s my signal chain, perhaps one of you clever people can see something I can’t! Guitar - HX stomp mono in. HX send to DLX input left - TRS cable. DLX send to HX L & R returns - Y cable DLX returns L & R to HX L & R outputs. Other settings - HX preset has a stereo FX loop block with all time based FX after, any overdrives before. FX loop level is at 50-60%. Send level is pushed slightly to help with volume and gives the guitar some ‘body’ (otherwise it sounds like I’m plugged in to the home stereo) I’ve BYPASSED the Simplifier DLX preamp section, using the amps in the HX which gives much more versatility. (Using the CAB SIM of the DLX…Not ideal but can’t do it the other way around) This set up DOES take my analog pedals much better than the HX stomp by itself, which is another reason I went for the Simplifier. However the fizz still occurs with my Wampler Plexi Drive and Bogner Burnley. AAAAHHH. Is it the FX loops of both these devices can’t quite take the heat? Or is it the 7CM thing, as much as stereo is a great idea perhaps I need to go back to mono. Have spent a month on this set up and beyond frustrated. I’ve learned SO much but with a gig in 3 days it’s not there yet and I’m halfway between Simplifier remorse and WTF am I doing wrong?!!!! Any help or thoughts would be very much appreciated! :)
Specific Helix HX Effects Use
paologuitar posted a topic in HelixHello to everyone! I am thinking of buying the Helix Hx Effects for one purpose (among others) I want to recreate the "feel" of a second guitarist, and by reading and searching other subforums here, I haven't come to an end. My way of thinking is simple 1. guitar to the HX 2. split the signal with a (HX) delay of eg. 20ms-1repeat in 2 amps having the 2nd amp giving back just the feedback. (the "2nd" guitarist is created) 3. Having a (HX) harmonizer on, fully panned so amp1 plays the note I am playing (dry signal) and amp2 just the "harmonized" note. (the "2nd" guitarist is playing his "seperate" part) 4. Add a new delay along with the existing one in order for both the dry and the harmonized lead parts to sound better. (the 2nd guitarist has a tasteful sound) 5. Using something like the 4 cable method (or more) to switch the channels of both amps with a press of 1 button on the HX. (control all of the above features in amps and HX with one button) 6. Use the distortion and clean channels on the amps and use the HX just for the effects (not the distortion modelling etc) Is this possible? Is there someone who has tried it? Is there something I am missing about the connections? Any help and suggestions will do PS. I take it for granted that the "suggestion" "find another real guitarist" has already been considered and can't work at the moment :P Thanks in advance.
HX Effects 7 Cable MethodI've had my HX Effects for about a week, and understand that it can output to 2 amps using the 7 cable method. What I'm not seeing specifically in the manual is whether those 2 amps can be alternated, such that Presets can be programmed to route to one amp or the other, but not both. Put another way, I know that the HX Effects' outputs in 7cm would route into the effects loop returns of the 2 amps, but how do I program a Preset to send only to Output 1 or only to Output 2? Am I right that the only way to do this would be to pan Presets going to amp 1 all the way to one side and Presets going to amp 2 all the way to the other? I wouldn't be able to use effects in stereo, but I don't mind. I can also loop the HX Effects into my ES-8, and run the HX Effects with midi from the ES-8, but I thought the HX Effects would essentially make the ES-8 obsolete. Keeping the ES-8 in my rig solely for this purpose would be overkill, not to mention that I wouldn't be able to fully use the HX Effects as I'd hoped due to this one issue. Thanks for your help!