lef38 2 Posted July 30, 2013 hi, Can someone please explain how the cab simulated output is designed ? I mean, where in the chain is it placed , does the output, and tone, depend of the master volume ? what kind of cab simulation is it ? Thanks ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil_m 4,231 Posted July 30, 2013 How the XLR works depends on whether you're in full power mode or low power mode. In full power mode, it's tapped off the transformer, so it's the last thing in the chain, and it is affected by the master volume. The tone would change depending on where the master volume is because it is coming after the power tubes. As far as the cab simulation, I believe it's the same cab emulation in the POD HD. In low power mode, the tone would not change with the master volume knob and the XLR output would essentially be a fully modeled signal. That is, everything in the chain would be digitally modeled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lef38 2 Posted July 30, 2013 That's right , i should have mentionned I'm in full power. OK thanks for the clarification. Regarding the cab simulation, if technically i understand it's similar to the Pod , it doesn't say which cab+mic settings is in use. Any idea ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil_m 4,231 Posted July 30, 2013 Regarding the cab simulation, if technically i understand it's similar to the Pod , it doesn't say which cab+mic settings is in use. Any idea ? The cab simulation defaults to match the amp model selected, and I believe the default mic model is the SM57 on axis (not entirely sure on that, though). With the 2.0 firmware update, you can actually select any cab and mic model you want through MIDI. http://line6.com/media/dt50/DT25_MIDI_CC_Reference_v2_0_RevA_English.pdf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lef38 2 Posted July 31, 2013 Excellent ! Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tscoolberth 14 Posted August 17, 2013 The cab simulation defaults to match the amp model selected, and I believe the default mic model is the SM57 on axis (not entirely sure on that, though). With the 2.0 firmware update, you can actually select any cab and mic model you want through MIDI. http://line6.com/media/dt50/DT25_MIDI_CC_Reference_v2_0_RevA_English.pdf Sold! I'm buying one .. goodbye trusty old Spider Valve MK1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricksteruk 82 Posted June 24, 2016 Hi - resurrecting an old topic here.. but just asking if it is possible to disable the Cabinet Simulator on the XLR output? Looks like this can be done by sending 0 on MIDI CC# 82 right? Is it possible to do this via the front panel at all or just by MIDI? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roscoe5 229 Posted July 13, 2016 Hi - resurrecting an old topic here.. but just asking if it is possible to disable the Cabinet Simulator on the XLR output? Looks like this can be done by sending 0 on MIDI CC# 82 right? Is it possible to do this via the front panel at all or just by MIDI? I asked the same question a while back when I was considering a DT amp. The answer was yes...it can be done in the DT Edit or MIDI. I don't have a link to that thread offhand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robbieb61 197 Posted July 17, 2016 So if I disabled the cab simulator in my DT50 and used the cab in my Helix...does the XLR out of the DT 50 still come off the transformer of the amp and add the tube "flavor" to the sound? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
radatats 918 Posted July 18, 2016 So if I disabled the cab simulator in my DT50 and used the cab in my Helix...does the XLR out of the DT 50 still come off the transformer of the amp and add the tube "flavor" to the sound? I've tried it that way. Turned off all amp and cabs in DT and no mic for cab sim. L6 link Helix to DT, XLR back into the Mic in Helix. It was not a great idea. Got too much feedback as volume went up. Didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure it out, just got tired of messing with it. If somebody else wants to give it a try and report back that would be great. I'm kinda done with the DT until they actually get the integration completed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robbieb61 197 Posted July 18, 2016 Actually...I was thinking of a "live" situation where I would come out of the helix to the DT50 and use the XLR of the DT50 to go straight to the P.A. system out front.I already long ago figured out a way to do what you're trying to do (come back to the Helix with the tube sound)...to do that I did this:Set up an effects send/return before the cab in the Helix. Send to input of DT50 amp (with all models and cabs turned off)Then I used a Rivera Rock Crusher out of the speaker output of the DT50 (so I'm getting the tubes)I sent the line out of the Rock Crusher back to the Helix effects return. Done.But instead of going through all of that...I'm thinking I could simply send my complete Helix sound (complete with cab) to the DT 50 and turn off cab sim in the DT50 and simply come out of the XLR of the DT50 to the P.A.The drawback to that is...I would get the Helix cab sim affecting the tone of my physical 4x12 cab onstage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
radatats 918 Posted July 18, 2016 Actually...I was thinking of a "live" situation where I would come out of the helix to the DT50 and use the XLR of the DT50 to go straight to the P.A. system out front. But instead of going through all of that...I'm thinking I could simply send my complete Helix sound (complete with cab) to the DT 50 and turn off cab sim in the DT50 and simply come out of the XLR of the DT50 to the P.A. The drawback to that is...I would get the Helix cab sim affecting the tone of my physical 4x12 cab onstage. Not sure the XLR out of the DT would sound good without cab sim applied. I don't know if having it before the DT would work... interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
