zooey Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 When you're in Stomp mode and the global 10 Switches setting isn't active, pressing Bank Up or Down temporarily switches to Presets mode, where the current bank's presets are shown on the switches, and pressing any switch recalls that preset. (You can also use Bank Up and Down to navigate through banks, of course.) As I understand it, if you're in 10 Switches mode, the Bank Up and Down switches become additional Stomp switches, which I'd love to have. But then how do you change presets? Is there a different magic trick to temporarily show Presets, or revert the Bank Up and Down buttons to their "normal" function? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You just hit the "Mode" switch (FS6), and you go back to Preset mode. Personally, I like this way because it allows you stay in preset mode if you're in a patch that you don't need to make any changes to, and if you do need to turn effects on and off, you just have one footswitch to hit. It's really not much different than having to hit one of the bank switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks Phil, that's what I figured. But the cool thing about the Bank btns is that once you pick a preset, you're automatically back in stomps mode. That won't happen in this case, you're "permanently" switching to Preset mode. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks Phil, that's what I figured. But the cool thing about the Bank btns is that once you pick a preset, you're automatically back in stomps mode. That won't happen in this case, you're "permanently" switching to Preset mode. Right? Right, it doesn't automatically go back into Stomp mode. You have to hit the mode switch again to go back in. It's never been an issue for me. Most likely you'd have your presets saved in state where you don't need to turn effects on or off as soon as you enter the preset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 True. Still would be a change to my way of thinking, which so far has been that I hit a bank btn to change presets, then I'm in stomp-land. Whether I need to turn something on or off right away, I have my palette for that preset right there as soon as the preset loads. I just need to try it, see how it feels IRL. Just wanted make sure I understood how it works first :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I personally like leaving it with the bank switches on the left so that I can quick switch as you describe. I am the sort that likes a different preset for each song, that way I have only the effects I actually need for any given song, allowing me to assign various things to the lower row of buttons and pretty much never worry about hitting the upper row but accidentally hitting one of the lower ones at the same time. Unless I'm in jam mode, then I have generic presets with tons of buttons for various effects so I can play around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksteruk Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I'm using it like you zooey, in Stomp mode and then bank to change presets, but I think I'd prefer it if the preset mode could have an option to automatically switch into stomp mode once you select a preset. Saves having to do an extra button push right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Right, it doesn't automatically go back into Stomp mode. You have to hit the mode switch again to go back in. It's never been an issue for me. Most likely you'd have your presets saved in state where you don't need to turn effects on or off as soon as you enter the preset. I for one wish it went back into stomp mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephane_dupont Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I for one wish it went back into stomp mode. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You guys are forgetting something!!!! In stomp mode, hit the far left switches on the top and bottom row at the same time, and then you can choose from 8 presets, and once you do, you're back to stomp mode!!! Only works if you're 8 switches mode. If you choose the 10 footswitch mode in stomp mode, the far left footswitches become assignable switches instead of bank switches. The two footswitches at once thing doesn't do anything then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ur2funky Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Yeah, sorry, I was wrong...it's because I always have a looper bottom left, if you then press both switches, it does stay in stomp mode, but you're still in the looper. It doesn't work with non looper patches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 It'd be great to have another mode, maybe '10 Switches Auto Stomp'. Works like 10 Switches mode, except that when you hit the mode switch to enter Preset mode, then choose a preset, it automatically reverts to 10 Switches. Doesn't seem super hard, and would be a really useful hybrid of existing capabilities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 It'd be great to have another mode, maybe '10 Switches Auto Stomp'. Works like 10 Switches mode, except that when you hit the mode switch to enter Preset mode, then choose a preset, it automatically reverts to 10 Switches. Doesn't seem super hard, and would be a really useful hybrid of existing capabilities. Great idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMotion Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Great idea! Agreed. I would love to have this option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKennyG Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 What I usually do is, in preset mode, I run the top row as presets and the bottom row as stomps. That way, when I have to turn anything on or off, I just program them into those four switches (I rarely have to turn more than four effects on/off in a song...). If I have a song where I need access to all ten, I just hit the mode switch. It's been working really well for me so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glideman Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I do the same as theKennyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksteruk Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I just found an Ideascle for this that was made in Dec 2015.. to go straight back to 10 switch Stomp mode from selecting preset... http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Default-to-10-switches-IA-s-upon-selecting-preset/796488-23508 I find that when I'm singing and playing I want to make sure I hit the right foot switch in a hurry. The easiest one to get to in a hurry would be the bottom left one as there is no worry of hitting a footswitch on the left of it by accident!! So that forces me to use 10 footswitch mode. Which is slightly less elegant in it's multiple presses needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoarddaddy Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 guys i just got the helix yesterday and i used it this morning at church of the firs time. the amp modeling is incredible. i love it. i built 3 user presets yesterday and love those as well. the problem i'm having is seeing it in stomp mode. when i tap the mode switch all of my windows go white with nothing in them. was hoping to see stomps on one row and presets on the other row. i'm assuming its maybe the way i built my presets. not sure. you guys seem super knowledgeable. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 guys i just got the helix yesterday and i used it this morning at church of the firs time. the amp modeling is incredible. i love it. i built 3 user presets yesterday and love those as well. the problem i'm having is seeing it in stomp mode. when i tap the mode switch all of my windows go white with nothing in them. was hoping to see stomps on one row and presets on the other row. i'm assuming its maybe the way i built my presets. not sure. you guys seem super knowledgeable. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks friends. You have to assign blocks to footswitches. There are no automatic assignments, so if haven't done it manually, stomp mode will remain empty. There are two ways to assign blocks to footswitches (or Bypass Assign, as the manual calls it). Quick Bypass Assign is the fastest (of course :) ). They're both described on pg 40 of the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 guys i just got the helix yesterday and i used it this morning at church of the firs time. the amp modeling is incredible. i love it. i built 3 user presets yesterday and love those as well. the problem i'm having is seeing it in stomp mode. when i tap the mode switch all of my windows go white with nothing in them. was hoping to see stomps on one row and presets on the other row. i'm assuming its maybe the way i built my presets. not sure. you guys seem super knowledgeable. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks friends. You need to explicitly assign the effects you want to footswitches if you want them to show up when you go into stomp mode. You may also want to look into the Global settings for footswitches such that for instance you may have 4 stomps on the bottom row and four snapshots on the top, or any of a number of stomp/snap/preset configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoarddaddy Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 thank you so much. i knew i was doing something wrong. i'll check into that immediately. thank my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm all for adding max flexibility to the available configurations for preset/snaps/stomps usage on the Helix. Just wanted to mention you can add a MIDI controller as well for some extra footswitching capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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