phenix9 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 hi i am making a comparison between the relay g30 g 10 adam cable 3M rolling stones 1) the adam cable 2) i am not sure but the g 10 is not good enough for gigs and at home my Adam Cable is much better and maybe the g 30 too so am a little bit disappointed my guitar cable sound louder and brighter so it's perfect and i wanted the same sound with a wireless system it won't be possible like my demos showed me how much money must we spend to have a good wireless system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenix9 Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 hard to have a good comparison but what i can say is that the G10 +a strat = 0 hum !! amazing and with my good cable= hum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenix9 Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 the g 30 sounds better than the g10 the g 30 is more like a real guitar cable with trebles and warm tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdevino Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 What cable are you using to connect the G10 or G30 receiver to your amp? Shorter is better and something made with mogami or equivalent will be even better, And seriously you are looking at entry level wireless and wondering how much you have to spend? to give you some idea how good the G30 is as a deal, some of the transmitters used on Broadway shows are $3000 - $5000 each (without the receiver). Funny thing is the G30 will likely sound as good or better since it has flatter response and no compander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenix9 Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 i use a very good cables : planet waves stage, good and patch cable i made comparisons with garage band and with the amp + with my pedalboard like a traditional cable like Adam Hall rolling stones signature and Cordial silent cables the g 10 has a bad sound : a little bit dark and metallic the g 30 was better so i keep the g 30 but what i liked was the hum which disappeared with the G10 it was amazing with a strat but i prefer " a pure tone" with a warm sound and not a metallic and dark sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just bought a Relay G10 from Guitar Center Friday. I presume this is one of the latest production units. I use South Creek Audio Cables either in 10' or 20' lengths, depending on my need. In some switching scenarios, I have used a 20' plus a 10'. Compared to using the cables, I notice no audible degradation with the Relay G10. I'm using several Les Pauls and a Sheraton-II Pro all with ProBuckers. Also, have a Custom Strat with Fender Vintage Noisless Pickups. These are fed to Fender Mustang IV v.2, Fender Mustang III v.2, and Yamaha THR10C amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAN_from_IBM Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 On August 17th I purchased a Relay G10. Set / installation was as advertised. Quality and peformance from one of my Fender Mustang IV V2.0, one of my Fender Frontman 25R, one of my Kustom Coup72(tube amp) was equal to that of my South Creek Audio cables. 10', 20' cable lengths. No drop outs, no buzzing, or any other anomalies or artifacts were heard. Guitars used in test : Gretsch, Les Paul, Custom Made Strat, Custom Made Telecasters, among others. Ergonomics were good. What was not good is the lack of support for the ANDROID OS. Also the charging micro code does NOT PERFORM AS ADVERTISED !!!!!!!! In speaking with support team of the G10, they believe there are no issues with charging. A friend of mine also has the same issues with charging. Line6 did not appear to be interested in our observation. We have a well defined process where we can replicate repeatedly the charging issues. I detected no sence of interest or urgency at all in having a document that describes the process that will demonstrate the defect in the charging microcode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexKenivel Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 What was not good is the lack of support for the ANDROID OS. You want a wireless transmitter for your mobile device? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 My impression is that he is referring to the Line 6 Updater (necessary to flash the G10 product with the updated firmware) is not supported on the Android platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashcraaft Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 There is a firmware-update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Yup! Announced here on the Forums by Tony Aug 16. Firmware 1.03, if I recall correctly. Check the Pinned items at the top of the Relay Digital Wireless sub-Forums. Already flashed mine, and it corrected one problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saeta Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 There is likely a level difference between the analog signal through a cable --> amp vs. analog --> digital --> analog --> amp. Unless you compensate so that the the actual sound levels are identical this type of test is meaningless. To human ears, louder almost always sounds better (within reason). You know, Fletcher-Munson and all that. Want your relay to sound louder? Turn up the master volume. I say this with no disrespect intended - you just don't need to worry about this effect that you have noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 There was also a subsequent firmware update to version 1.04 releasd in mid September. This last release corrected all the Green LED issues I had encountered after the transmitter reached full charge and the power was subsequently turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 To circumvent the 10' CableTone affect applied to the 1/4" output jack, use an XLR to 1/4" TS cable. Both outputs (the 1/4" jack and the XLR jack) may be used at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco_Belmonte Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 What I did notice was that any buzzing was gone. Seems like the absence of a physical connection between the Guitar and the rest of the gear makes for a nifty trick that kills any buzz as minimal as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 An instrument cable can act as an antenna, especially when used with single coil pickups. Eliminating the antenna can reduce the noise, particularly if the source is Radio Frequency Interfernece (RFI). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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