hulio24 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hello everyone. I recently bought Variax Standard for recording purposes. Mainly acoustic models, and Im very disappointed. 12 string sounds like it has added some very artificial synthy high pitched tone. In fact none of the acoustic models sounds acceptable. Im not pro guitarist and not looking for perfect projection of a real thing, just fairly pleasant sound. But when I hear my 12strings I guess if I asked some kid what instument is that, they would have problem recognising a guitar in it. Previously I had Variax600 and it had the same issue but I just got over it thinking that its just not very good guitar. Listening some line6 sound presentation of Standard, impressed with its sound I decided to upgrade from 600, but what I got is the same horrible sound I had before. 12 string is the most drastic example of bad sound of my Variax but electric models are not much better. Theyre nowhere close to what I can hear on YT variax presentations.I play Variax via digital Line6 cable to Pod x3live to PC. (I know x3 is bit old:) I tried many setups including everything off, no amps no comps. Got all firmware updated to the latest versions. Also tried playing via 1/4 on battery, and again.. same result. In couple of weeks I was planning to upgrade fx to Helix floor but now I dont know is it all worth it:(Im adding mp3 with the sample of my 12 string. If some of you good people could take some of your precious time to listen that ridiculous sound I'll be grateful:) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccdy727c68x6xay/variax%20problem.mp3?dl=0Anyone had the same problem? Any ideas how can I improve it? Do you think that Helix could solve it? Do you think Line6 uses different electronics than they sell just for presentation purposes? :)) just kidding;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 No mention of what are you listening through...studio monitors, headphones?... if it's not some sort of FRFR speaker solution, you can kiss any attempts at convincing acoustic tones goodbye. Crappy desktop PC speakers aren't gonna cut it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclement Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 To my ears.. the "octave" strings are too loud. I would try turning them down some. I think this is true for just about all of the 12-string models in the Vairax. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymguitar Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 To my ears.. the "octave" strings are too loud. I would try turning them down some. I think this is true for just about all of the 12-string models in the Vairax. YMMV. How do you turn the octave strings down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFrance Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You have to use Worbench, and setup the pourcentage of the mix per string, i've recently played with that, i think i have 35% and it sounds really better, more natural ! At the beginning, i had the same opinion about those sounds. I've done a lot of setup on the variax ; lower my pickups, using the good pick, changed the strings gauge (i believe, i'm gonna be back (for the bends)) Every action/setup is important with a modeling guitar, every sound is multiplied ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymguitar Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You have to use Worbench, and setup the pourcentage of the mix per string, i've recently played with that, i think i have 35% and it sounds really better, more natural ! At the beginning, i had the same opinion about those sounds. I've done a lot of setup on the variax ; lower my pickups, using the good pick, changed the strings gauge (i believe, i'm gonna be back (for the bends)) Every action/setup is important with a modeling guitar, every sound is multiplied ! Thank you, I haven't got round to workbench yet, will have a look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 No mention of what are you listening through...studio monitors, headphones?... if it's not some sort of FRFR speaker solution, you can kiss any attempts at convincing acoustic tones goodbye. Crappy desktop PC speakers aren't gonna cut it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Thanx for your answer. Im using KRK Rokit4 through 1/4 out but i got the same sound on Sennheiser headphones too:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 To my ears.. the "octave" strings are too loud. I would try turning them down some. I think this is true for just about all of the 12-string models in the Vairax. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Thank you. Sounds little better now:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 You have to use Worbench, and setup the pourcentage of the mix per string, i've recently played with that, i think i have 35% and it sounds really better, more natural ! At the beginning, i had the same opinion about those sounds. I've done a lot of setup on the variax ; lower my pickups, using the good pick, changed the strings gauge (i believe, i'm gonna be back (for the bends)) Every action/setup is important with a modeling guitar, every sound is multiplied ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulio24 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Thank you. It looks like I need to do some more adjustments. I was bit naive thinking that it comes with perfect sound right out of the box:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFrance Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Thank you. It looks like I need to do some more adjustments. I was bit naive thinking that it comes with perfect sound right out of the box:/ I'm arrived at the same conclusion. Iv'e bought 2 line6's device and i always work on them. That's not a plug and play..... You have a lot of capabilities and it demands time to setup to your tastes (even if some users notice many things the same and it helps to have their solutions to fix them...) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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