petepraise Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Well it's probably me but I can't find anywhere to turn off 2.5. I've hooked the router up to my laptop and logged on through IE to the router page but can't find anywhere. Can't find it in the manual either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 We'll I found it I should have waited before I posted!It' s under the Wireless > Channel and SSIDboth bands are listed and the setting is wireless mode, one of the choices is off.I'll take the laptop on Saturday just to check if it's retained the setting but if it hasn't I'll need to leave it cos we just don't have time at a gig to add this into the set up and carry a laptop around. That's why I moved to iPad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital-sound Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 It will be "set and forget". As long as no router reset is done (generally with a long, hardware button press. So consider it "set and forget". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Ye ha! I've forgot already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcevansmusic Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I received my Belkin Router today (£22.50 via eBay), USB to ethernet adaptor earlier in the week, and managed to set everything up successfully within 15 mins. Have set the router to 5GHz as suggest. Looking forward to trying it out at a gig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 15 minutes! ... What took you so long? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcevansmusic Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 15 minutes! ... What took you so long? :) The router's password dropped out of the box and it took me a while to find it! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well, this router is a game changer! Went to our practice yesterday and hooked up the router, when I opened the iPad app it connected before I had a chance to press the green button. I closed the cover after a bit and we recorded for a while. When I opened the case and the iPad woke up it connected immediately in the past the latter action would have meant a lot of shutting down reconnecting restarting iPad and sometimes still no deal. I think Line 6 should change the recommendations out of the box to this baby! I got to try my XD V75 HS for the first time since I bought it about six months ago and while I used it the whole day I felt it wasn't as good a sound as my Beta 58 we usually use and I know it should be, so I think another trip to that forum is in order. Thanks for all your help guys, this forum has made a real difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassgumbo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but does the current iPad app work with iOS 8.0? If not, I'm not about to upgrade- this app is too important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklynx Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but does the current iPad app work with iOS 8.0? If not, I'm not about to upgrade- this app is too important! I haven't seen anything official, but I've been using it for a few weeks now (since GM was released to developers) without issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 We've got three gigs this weekend and I'm now on 8.2 so I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow night. Hopefully it will work as good as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Seems to be fine with StageScape ... BUT, 8.0x has all but ruined my iPad2. If you haven't switched and have an older ipad or phone I would recommend you don't. My iPad crashes about once an hour. I can now type about 10 characters before any of them show up on the screen and when surfing the net most times the Safari browser only half opens pages. I'm extremely disappointed that Apple would allow such a thing to happen and then restrict you from reloading the older iOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Used stagescape app tonight as usual with 8.2 only thing that happened was a freeze when at back of church using quick tweak on a recorded sound check. A quick re-start of the app sorted it and didn't have any problems after that. Never had that before though, had it loose the signal then re-connect. But overall it performed well as usual. We see how it does on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Well, last night's attempt was a disaster. The app kept disconnecting from the desk and I eventually ran out of time and had to go back to the desk and set the mix from there. We'll see what happens tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_Auricchio Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 ...BUT, 8.0x has all but ruined my iPad2. If you haven't switched and have an older ipad or phone I would recommend you don't. My iPad crashes about once an hour. I can now type about 10 characters before any of them show up on the screen... Don, I presume you have shut down and restarted your iPad? Also check for any updated apps; there could be some background tasks causing problems. Not all apps run background tasks, but some do. Updating them all is an easy experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Oh yeah ... hard restart, re-install from iTunes and have updates every app that has an update. I would love to roll back but Apple doesn't allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_Auricchio Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 And I presume it's 8.0.2 if that's available for your iPad model. Seems lots of people are reporting similar bad things on iPads. Betcha we'll see 8.0.3 soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_Auricchio Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Don, I found this list of things that seemed to help people with the current 8.0.2 OS. Dunno if you need to do it all, but it's worth a try. Settings>General>Accessibility>Reduce Motion turn "On" There's apparently a reset that isn't a shutdown: Hold down the on/off switch and the Home button simultaneously until you see the Apple logo. Ignore the "Slide to power off" text if it appears. You will not lose any apps, data, music, movies, settings, etc. Other things that may work: Background app refresh (all but one app monitoring data usage!\) Keyboard predictive text Location services for most apps Cellular/mobile is NOT now set for automatic carrier selection Privacy, location, system services, cellular location setting is off Wallpaper perspective zoom is off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Well last gig and the stgescape app worked flawlessly. So I guess I'd say it's ok with the new OS. Pity a lot of other things don't seem to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianwolfe Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 FYI to all. I tried the Moshi USB to ethernet adapter, as mentioned in this thread, but it did not work. My USB stick still worked in the pass through port, but the Stagescape didn't recognize the ethernet/router. I had to switch to the regular Apple brand adapter, and then it all worked. Moshi must have changed the innards, or something. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm going to try the apple one. It's a bit of a bummer cos it's £26 but having spent £40 on a USB dongle with poor results we then moved to the N600 which has been significantly better, however I get disconnected at times - usually when I'm at the back of the venue setting a mix - I need to walk to the desk and unplug the USB to ethernet when I plug it back in the desk sees it again. A track came on really loud one time and just as I went to turn it down the connection failed, I had to walk to the desk and with two sticks I'm not quick. I was getting some disapproving looks all the way there. so Apple it is but this is the last penny I'm spending on wireless for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Are you operating the router at 5GHz ONLY? Switching to wi-if at 5gHz usually yields much better results but remember this is a wii-if issue and depends greatly on local conditions. The mixer itself isn't playing any part in this kind of problem. Are you keeping the router above "head height" so you maintain good line of sight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi Yes the router is set to 5ghz only. I'm a bit confused though, a lot of people are reporting bad results with other USB to ethernet adapters and saying when they switch to Apple all the problems dissappeared You said in a post Line 6 only recomend the Apple one so I thought it would be a compatibility problem rather than wi-Fi. We've got a gig this afternoon and a big weekend away gig this weekend so I'm going to pick up the Apple one today on the way to the gig. Then hopefully the problems will be gone. it would be difficult to get the router above head height, I mix on stage with the desk right in front of me but I thought surely that wouldn't matter, I'm writing this post on wi-fi at home and my router is downstairs in another room. Our router sits on the floor at the desk stand, I suppose I could sit it on the desk for setting a mix before the audience come in. I'll try the new adapter and see how it goes. I have to say though, it has been significantly better with the router. Thanks for the reply. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I cannot say with 100% certainty, but I don't believe the Apple branded unit will work any better than the one that you are currently using. I think if you find one that works, it just works. We certify using the Apple unit as it is chipset specific to the code and I assume that any other brand that works do so because it uses the same chipset. There are a lot of brands that come and go so we are not able to certify or even test them all. I suspect that most of your problem is caused by not managing constant line of sight contact. And while raising the router up may be difficult I think it will greatly increase your reliability. Maybe in your situation you can guarantee constant line of sight but it is usually difficult as people tend to walk through it. Are you running 5gHz EXCLUSIVELY in your home network? 5gHz is many times more dependent on line of sight than 2.4gHz is. It is also possible that you have a hardware issue with your adapter, Ethernet cable and router ... And even your iPad so you also need to rule all of that out. You should also sweep for other possible 5gHz RF in the venue as it is possible you just have a radio interference issue. Wi-if was never intended for reliable real time performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddiehl Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I don't want to sound like a complainer but... I finally got all the pieces for the PA: MD20, two L3t's and the L3s. My wife got me an iPad mini for my birthday a few days ago, so I'm almost there... all I need is some kinda dongle or something... so I google a bit and run across this thread. Are you kidding me? No, don't start with your rationalization and snooty condescension . The "fix" being described is half assed and clumsy. A router (requiring a wall wart) connected to an Ethernet cable connected to an adapter connected to the mixer? Do you people gig? This thing is supposed to streamline the setup. I can see it now, I'm rushing to get everything mic'd and plugged in, powered up, ready to go and... wait... okay gotta find a safe place next to this rugged road ready mixer to place this home office router and plug in its wall wart and check the Ethernet cable and adapter are long enough to reach, can't have them where the bassists beer gets knocked onto them. How many setups and tear downs will this extra chain of wires survive? Gonna neatly coil them up each time, huh? Right. I actually was a bit Leary of just the dongle in the USB slot, there cantilevered out near other connections where it might be bump and break off. You put so much thought into the design of this thing. It's gorgeous! And the finishing touch is a steaming pile of band aides (no pun intended). I'm not angry, just annoyed, disappointed. I've been "with" line 6 for a long time now. I owned the first amplifier they made, the Axsys before it became the AX2 (1996 I think, maybe 1997), at which time I bought the upgrade package: a chip, a big black sticker for the front and new knobs to convert my amp. I've owned flextones, two or three kinds of kidney bean pods, and at least three effects modelers (delay, modulation, distortion) units. I've got two James Tyler variax guitars, the DT25, and just upgraded my POD HD500 with a POD HD500X. I've also bought a bunch of the other doodads and gadgets for computer connection. All I'm saying is me and Line 6 have been in a long and complicated relationship. One thing I expect from them is a designers mentality: don't just half lollipop it to make it work, complete the lollipop, make it make sense, design it "right", figure out the little things. Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I guess if you' re bought that amount of Line 6 gear you should be allowed the odd rant 😬 I can't really comment on the keeping it out of the way of beer, were a Gospel group so it's mainly churches we set up in. But beer aside, the router sits at the bottom of the desk stand. I use a sleek 4 way extension and it takes all my wall warts. I use the Sonic port VX as the interface for the iPad - one of my best purchases was a £4 ipad stand from Asda (Walmart Stateside) it sits the iPad at the exact angle just above the M20d screen. I use Onsong live for words and backing trax I just replaced an Alesis iodock with the VX a couple of months ago and it is excellent I use the power function to charge my iPad as well. We only use two L2s but with all the fiddly stuff above and mics cables etc we've got our setup to around 20 minutes (and my OCD has me using a cable tidy from the desk to the floor so it looks like a multycore from the audience) I do see your point though, when I read the spec on the desk - and bought it - I was convinced all I had to do was pop in a USB dongle and my network was ready to go flawlessly 😠A nice built in router that allowed us to just connect would have been lovely. All my stuff including the router fits in a case I bought for camera gear so it's not too much of a bummer taking it to gigs. dboomer, thanks for the info, I had no idea that 5ghz was so dependent on line of sight. When it's on the floor under the desk I'm at the back of the venue it's usually a load of empty seats between us. I went to the Apple Store and bought the ethernet I thought I'do come this far up I might as well end it. I'll try it this weekend and if I get a disconnect I'll get the router up in sight and see if it helps. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkor Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Could someone point me where to look to turn off the 2.5 WIFI and go with the 5K WIFI setting? I have the Apple Airport (2nd gen), a iPad 4th gen, the Airport iPad utility, and the iPad m20d utility. It all works and connects, I just want to turn off the 2.5 WIFI and I can't find the place to do it! :) Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 In the router, not in the iPad. You cannot shut off the 2.4 in an Airport express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkor Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi Don, Yes, I understand the configuration is in the router. But I was hoping this aspect of the router config could be changed via the airport express app on the ipad. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakkibacki Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Hi, i just wanna know whether the Belkin N600 wifi Adapter is compatible with the Stagescape M20D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm using the N600 router, it is definately compatable I've had much less drop outs with it. I did also bite the bullet and buy the Apple ethernet to usb. I have had times when it cuts of - usually when I'm at the back of the venue - I found the stagescape is saying there is no ethernet present. Unplugging the usb and plugging back in gets things going again. Its not as much now but ut does still happen. I certainly could not have the cofidence to sit at the back of a gig and mix with wifi I just feel at some point the link would go down but I use it to pre mix our songs before the gig and recall the mixes on stage. I went through a lot of money on various bits of kit but I have to say the Belkin N600 and Apple Ethernet to USB is the one I would reccomend. Especially set to the 5GHz setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogMcFly Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Does anyone know if you can just connect a USB A-A cable from the M20d directly to the USB port on your wireless router? Will this work? I've tried it with my NETGEAR wireless Router but M20d says that no network adapter present. But in the advanced manual section 9.2 there is a screen where you can connect to an existing WiFi network... Am I missing something? This should be a lot easier to connect your iPad to the Stagescape... C-Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petepraise Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I don't think it would work. Connecting to an existing network I guess would be using one of the USB wi-fi dongles and connecting with the networks SSID and password. However, I found these to be really unreliable and I spent a fair bit of cash trying the various recommended ones. The only thing I've found that has worked for us is the Apple USB to Ethernet adapter into a short Ethernet cable and into the N600 router set up to the 5GHz. I have found this to be 95% reliable, the times it fails usually I find the M20D is saying there is no network present I unplug the adapter plug it back in and it connects again. This usually works - except for the time it was critical and then no matter how many times I did it there was no connection - I've no idea why it would suddenly disconnect like this and it's a shame because it would stop me trusting it in a live setting, thankfully this isn't how I need it. We use it to set up a mix we record a short number and then I set up mixes from the back re-calling scenes during the live set. I have been embarrassed though, I was setting the volume and turned it up too loud just to check something and guess what? Disconnect, I had to make my way from the back of the venue to the front with the music deafening the people who had arrived early passing a lot of angry looks as I'm disabled it takes me a long time to get anywhere. Thankfully the hobble of shame has only happened on a couple of occasions but it's always on your mind when you go to the back. It's a real shame because if it was 100% it would be a killer feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hspeulman Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hello Stagescape users. I use this mixer in the Netherlands (at home and in live performances) and it is very unfortunate that no new firmware update is created. Too bad, because I am very happy with this mixer. There are some improvements are needed, which already indicated regularly in this forum. It will be up to Ymaha,. which develops this product further. It's all great to use this mixer. My question: I want to link my Ipad air to the Line6 Stagescape. From the reviews I read that I should go for a Apple router. What type should I have? Can someone upload a photo which one it is? Or type. I see here in the Netherlands (including second hand) different models, so I do not know just what I need. Thank you for your answers. greeting Henk Netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paestudio Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Hello friends, I'm Pablo Agüero from Chile. I want to share with you the easy and very cheap solution to connect the m20d stagescape to an ipad. After several attempts I got it with a wifi adapter that I bought by aliexpress. It works perfectly, responds to the commands instantaneously, I would say that better than controlling it with the m20d. The working distance is about 20 to 25 meters. I leave the link to buy the adapter safely. https://es.aliexpress.com/item/USB-TV-Wireless-Wi-Fi-Adapter-replace-Samsung-Smart-TV-instead-WIS12ABGNX-WIS09ABGN/32813459763.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.404863c0fksExZ That friends, I am very happy to be able to finally control my m20d with an ipad, since now I will be able to carry out more efficient sound tests. greetings to all. link to download video that shows everything working: https://drive.google.com/open?id=148fW2LclTD8fy5dI-6j9wHKfzuiS03UE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paestudio Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 2/1/2016 at 8:37 AM, hspeulman said: Hello Stagescape users. I use this mixer in the Netherlands (at home and in live performances) and it is very unfortunate that no new firmware update is created. Too bad, because I am very happy with this mixer. There are some improvements are needed, which already indicated regularly in this forum. It will be up to Ymaha,. which develops this product further. It's all great to use this mixer. My question: I want to link my Ipad air to the Line6 Stagescape. From the reviews I read that I should go for a Apple router. What type should I have? Can someone upload a photo which one it is? Or type. I see here in the Netherlands (including second hand) different models, so I do not know just what I need. Thank you for your answers. greeting Henk Netherlands 62/5000 friend, that's the solution! good luck. Greetings from Chile. Hello friends, I'm Pablo Agüero from Chile. I want to share with you the easy and very cheap solution to connect the m20d stagescape to an ipad. After several attempts I got it with a wifi adapter that I bought by aliexpress. It works perfectly, responds to the commands instantaneously, I would say that better than controlling it with the m20d. The working distance is about 20 to 25 meters. I leave the link to buy the adapter safely. https://es.aliexpress.com/item/USB-TV-Wireless-Wi-Fi-Adapter-replace-Samsung-Smart-TV-instead-WIS12ABGNX-WIS09ABGN/32813459763.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.404863c0fksExZ That friends, I am very happy to be able to finally control my m20d with an ipad, since now I will be able to carry out more efficient sound tests. greetings to all. link to download video that shows everything working: https://drive.google.com/open?id=148fW2LclTD8fy5dI-6j9wHKfzuiS03UE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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