Is there a way to make the Amp a global setting in Helix Floor?

[Mxzx]

Wondering if there is a way to make the amp setting global to all the presets instead of having to change it in each one?

 

 

[cruisinon2]

Nope...and unless you're using the same amp model for every patch, I'm not sure why you'd want that anyway. Settings that work for the kinds of sounds you'd typically want from a Fender Twin aren't going to help you for any of the high-gain monsters, and vice versa. Standardizing arbitrarily selected settings for every knob wouldn't prevent you from having to adjust things...

[silverhead]

Not directly.

 

If you're talking about creating new presets you can set up a preset that contains only your preferred amp model and settings. Save it and then copy it every time you want to set up a new preset. If you're talking about changing parameter values in existing presets you can create a Favorites model for the amp with the preferred settings. You will still have to edit each existing preset to replace the mp model with your new Favorite model.

 

 

[Mxzx]

Thanks for reply's.  I create a new preset and name it the song and set tempo, but I use the same amp all the time.  It would be nice to be able to change something on the amp on the fly and have it carry to all the presets.

[datacommando]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:13 PM, Mxzx said:

Thanks for reply's.  I create a new preset and name it the song and set tempo, but I use the same amp all the time.  It would be nice to be able to change something on the amp on the fly and have it carry to all the presets.

 

Hi,

 

While you might find that very useful to you, it may well be a total pain in the aspidistra to others who bought the Helix because it is essentially designed as an amp modelling system and comes complete with a wide range of options from old school to boutique models.

 

From what you say about only using one amp with the Helix floor, some might find that rather a waste of money and resources. Possible a better choice would be the HX Effects and a single amp or more limited choice amp modeller of your choice. That way you could set and forget every knob on the front of your amp forever. Other than that, with the Helix your options are

1. Create a template that uses your favourite amp to use as the basis for all your sonic excursions
2. Select your single favourite amp and adjust to your own taste, then save that as the default setting for that model - then every time you load it you're ready to go.
3.  Much the same as version 2. Set up the amp to your liking then save it to the Favourites folder ready to drop into whatever path you wish.

Then the downside of this is, if you make a change to your amp setting it does not carry through to every other instance of that amp block in other presets. Hopefully you can see how that could be a nightmare scenario for other users.

 

I think your approach to using the Helix must be truly unique.

 

Hope this helps?makes sense.

[Mxzx]

I'm not sure how this would be a nightmare for other users?  Simply the same as the other options in the Global menu, on or off?

 

What's so hard about that?

 

I have an HX Effects already, but then you are stuck using a Strymon Iridium or some other amp modeler as well.  Hence why I bought a Helix.

[datacommando]

On 9/23/2024 at 5:27 PM, Mxzx said:

I'm not sure how this would be a nightmare for other users?  Simply the same as the other options in the Global menu, on or off?

 

What's so hard about that?

 

I have an HX Effects already, but then you are stuck using a Strymon Iridium or some other amp modeler as well.  Hence why I bought a Helix.

Hi,

 

I guess it would be a nightmare for anyone who changed, for instance the drive on the amp, only to have that change applied to every other preset that used that particular model - the potential for a catastrophic gig is right there.

 

Anyhow I digress - you should know this:- 

 

There are no Line 6 staff here and only very occasionally do they visit these forums - (See the “sticky comment” in the black banner stripe at the top of this page entitled “Welcome to the Line 6 forums”).

 

This link is where you need to go to have any hope of your suggestion been seen by anyone from Line 6:

 

https://line6.ideascale.com/c/
 

Before posting any new ideas, please do a search to see if it's already been listed. Multiple requests for the same thing will thin out the votes. Also, post your ideas one at a time. Many users don’t vote for combined suggestions.

Then you should use the “sticky thread” in this forum to let other users know what your suggestions are, with links to IdeaScale, so they can vote on it if they wish.

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

 

[theElevators]

unfortunately, no.  You can however copy/paste your amp block in HX Edit.  It is inconvenient for sure!  But once you dial in your main sound, creating multiple presets from it by copy/pasting the preset, and not touching it because you already set it up as you need it is the way to go. 

[Mxzx]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:06 PM, theElevators said:

unfortunately, no.  You can however copy/paste your amp block in HX Edit.  It is inconvenient for sure!  But once you dial in your main sound, creating multiple presets from it by copy/pasting the preset, and not touching it because you already set it up as you need it is the way to go. 

That is what I do for a whole set, so again there are names and tempos built and displayed on the screen.  The chain remains the same, so if there are 20 songs, and you would like to change an amp setting on the fly during performance, would be nice to have a global option to carry it on to all the presets, or even just ones that have the same amp?  Just my thoughts....

[cruisinon2]

On 9/23/2024 at 6:34 PM, Mxzx said:

That is what I do for a whole set, so again there are names and tempos built and displayed on the screen.  The chain remains the same, so if there are 20 songs, and you would like to change an amp setting on the fly during performance, would be nice to have a global option to carry it on to all the presets, or even just ones that have the same amp?  Just my thoughts....

 

There's always the global EQ...obviously it won't help for drive or channel volume settings, but generally speaking most tinkering in a live setting will be EQ related anyway. Once you start mucking around with too much on stage you're inviting a Spinal Tap moment...;)

[MusicLaw]

@Mxzx Also available for you to use to your best advantage is the Customized User Default for the Amp Block of your preference. Although not the same as a Global configuration which would automatically adjust your existings Presets, the ability to change the Factory Default settings of the Amp block you prefer and Save it as your Customized User Default is a very handy feature! The Customized User Default feature does not allow you to rename the name of the Factory Default Amp Block. It is very similar to its "sister" feature of creating a User Favorite which requires you to enter a name to save any Block (Amp or FX) with the customized parameters you desire, so you have it available under Favorites when you select a Block Type.

 

Hope this helps.

[theElevators]

Well you can use one or 2 “kitchen sink” presets. I’ve gone down route for one project. I used all 8 snapshots and made use of the expression pedal to bring in various additional effects depending on what snapshots I was in.  I also used the tap tempo button to change the delay whenever there was a need to change the tempo saved in the snapshot. The other preset I had was only used for one song that required drop A tuning and a heavier amp with the help of the capo block. So in that situation I could easily hypothetically tweak my sounds, because it’s only 2 presets. 
 

Put it this way, you can most definitely cover your entire set with this approach, unless you go all out and have very specific trick sounds. 
 

in my main band I wanted to simplify my job as much as possible so I used the preset-per-song approach. Sometimes I needed to make changes to multiple presets right before the show, when certain sounds that I used in those presets didn’t sound good during sound check. 
 

Another solution is to use an external amp pedal. Lots of options right now. For example my favorite one is Joyo American Sound. I got rid of it since acquiring the Helix.