HD500x turns on variax mode on JTV89F when I switch presets

[bobwilken]

I have my 89F and the HD500X connected with the Line 6 VDI cable

when I have the 89F in mag mode and I switch to a different preset on the HD500x ..

the variax guitar knob lights up and it shifts the 89F back into the variax mode.

it will not stay on the mag setting when changing presets.

 

any help would be very much appreciated ..

this is very frustrating to have to remember to push the variax knob back in every time I switch a preset on the POD

[Tboneous]

You have to save each patch with variax mags as your source. Should get you back in buisness.

[bobwilken]

You have to save each patch with variax mags as your source. Should get you back in buisness.

 

ok , so let me get this straight  ...

are you saying that I actually have to  take the time to go in there and save every preset in this whole unit 

with mags as the source...or else use a regular guitar ? that's plain stupid - mags should be the default on the HD500X..

any presets involving the variax as the source should be optional not standard ..

but instead you have to go in there and take the time to customize and redo everything ...

this setup is totally back - asswards.

 

seriously .. that is absolutely  ignorant ...  that function should be controlled from the guitar  ... not the peddle board

unless you specifically tweaked that preset to do that .

tweaking and saving should be optional not mandatory just to be able to use the device.

 I pretty much keep the variax setting on the acoustic setting because that's basically all I use the variax for..

when i stomp into an overdriven metal preset ... the damn thing shouldn't automatically shift into an acoustic 12 string

I gotta admit , so far the HD500X has me absolutely disappointed .. 

 what the heck is the point of having 500 presets  that don't  at function properly out of the box ..let alone sounding like crap.

 

for $500 it should  at least be somewhat intuitively functional right out-of-the-box ...

I know that  presets all require tweaking. .. but I shouldn't have to re-save every preset in this machine just preview it.

 

and  re-saving every preset in the box just to be able use a variax guitar with it ..when they were supposed to be made for each other.

"dream rig" my a$$ ....more like nightmare.

 

i digress ..that angst is of course all toward Line 6  .. not you  Tboneous..

i'm not trying to shoot the messenger ... and thanks alot for your help..

 

cheers -n- beers

[TheRealZap]

its a setting in the unit...

if you have it set to preset.. then yes...

but you can set it to global...

and it will never enable the models automatically.

 

ok , so let me get this straight  ...

are you saying that I actually have to  take the time to go in there and save every preset in this whole unit ?

or else use a regular guitar ?

that is absolutely  ignorant ...  that function should be controlled from the guitar  .

 I pretty much keep the variax setting on the acoustic setting because that's basically all I use the variax for..

when i stomp into an overdriven metal preset ... the damn thing shouldn't automatically shipped to my acoustic channel.

I gotta admit , so far the HD500X has me absolutely disappointed.

 what the heck is the point of having 500 presets  that don't  work out of the box ..

instead you have to go in there and take the time to customize and redo everything .

 

for $500 it should  at least be intuitively functional right out-of-the-box ...

I know that  presets all require tweaking. .. but I shouldn't have to re-save every preset in this machine just preview it.

 

and  re-saving every preset in the box just to be able use a variax guitar with it ..when they were supposed to be made for each other.

"dream rig" my a$$ ....more like nightmare.

 

i digress ..that angst is of course all toward Line 6  .. not you  Tboneous..

i'm not trying to shoot the messenger ... and thanks alot for your help..

 

cheers -n- beers

[bobwilken]

its a setting in the unit...

if you have it set to preset.. then yes...

but you can set it to global...

and it will never enable the models automatically.

 

so where is this global setting thing ..

can I access it through the HD500X Edit software on my computer..

I have a really hard time reading that little screen on the unit itself

[TheRealZap]

its on the unit itself... go into setup page 7
 

 

Choose whether you want to assign all your Variax 

settings on this Setup pg 7 screen on a per Preset basis or Globally.*

• When set to “Preset,†all the parameter settings shown on the Variax Setup 

screens (Setup pages 7 & 8) are saved and recalled individually per POD 

HD500X preset. You’ll see additional options in the screen when you have a 

Variax connected and choose “Preset.â€

• When set to “Global,†this provides complete manual control over all Variax 

functions, regardless what Variax settings you may have saved within the POD 

HD500X presets.

[bobwilken]

 

its on the unit itself... go into setup page 7

 

 

Choose whether you want to assign all your Variax 

settings on this Setup pg 7 screen on a per Preset basis or Globally.*

• When set to “Preset,†all the parameter settings shown on the Variax Setup 

screens (Setup pages 7 & 8) are saved and recalled individually per POD 

HD500X preset. You’ll see additional options in the screen when you have a 

Variax connected and choose “Preset.â€

• When set to “Global,†this provides complete manual control over all Variax 

functions, regardless what Variax settings you may have saved within the POD 

HD500X presets.

 

 

thank you very , very much....

[davidb7170]

I actually like it to "remember" the mag or model, because I make use of it in all my patches. It keeps the state of the JTV mags or models for each patch at the time you create and save it.

 

I switch between say the 12 string patch and mag electric patches multiple times in the course of one song, so I position those 2 patches side by side in my set list bank. Hit one patch and I'm playing the 12 string acoustic, then hit the other and do an electric solo on the mags, done with the solo, hit the other patch and I'm back to the 12 string.

 

I also set up special patches for models in altenate tunings, such as drop Db for one song we do. Don't have to remember to push the knob and rotate the alt tune knob -- hit the foot switch for the special patch for the song, then go to the next patch for the next song, and I'm back to my mags in standard tuning. Very handy really...

 

Each to their own...

 

Dave

[jandrio]

so where is this global setting thing ..

can I access it through the HD500X Edit software on my computer...

 

it's on the upper left side of the HD500X Edit screen....

[bobwilken]

I actually like it to "remember" the mag or model, because I make use of it in all my patches. It keeps the state of the JTV mags or models for each patch at the time you create and save it.

 

I switch between say the 12 string patch and mag electric patches multiple times in the course of one song, so I position those 2 patches side by side in my set list bank. Hit one patch and I'm playing the 12 string acoustic, then hit the other and do an electric solo on the mags, done with the solo, hit the other patch and I'm back to the 12 string.

 

I also set up special patches for models in altenate tunings, such as drop Db for one song we do. Don't have to remember to push the knob and rotate the alt tune knob -- hit the foot switch for the special patch for the song, then go to the next patch for the next song, and I'm back to my mags in standard tuning. Very handy really...

 

Each to their own...

 

Dave

 

yes...  a very good game plan indeed  .. 

but my point is that mags should be the default set up..

unless the  particular preset was actually made for the Variax ..

 

case in point .. when I step on a factory preset it  overrides the mag setting  i'm on and shifts into what ever physical variax setting  are used lasti.

now if I selected a heavy metal preset per se ... and it shifted the JTV into the "Lester" mode .. it would be great.

but that's not what it does ... it shifs the JTV into what ever Variax mode I used last .. not the one that's appropriate for the preset I selected...

"Son of plexi" gets re-routed into variax acoustic 12 string.

unless I go in and correct it by tweaking and saving it.

 

there's no way this was done on purpose ... it's absolute faulty code...

which I see hasn't been updated since it's  inception

 

and like I said ... I understand that all this is tweakable , adjustable and customizable ..

but all that  should be optional ...  not default .

 default should be just what is  when I plug my Tele into it.

 

anyways ... very unintuitive and user unfriendly

it makes you work way harder than should be necessary.

 

but the good news is that I know  I can easily get by with 10 or 12 presets ... and live mainly in just 3 or 4 them. HA !!

 

but I like how you have your set up going ...

it'll probably take me a month or so but I'll get there ... now that everyone has been kind enough to show me  the nature of the beast.

 

manythanx

[bobwilken]

it's on the upper left side of the HD500X Edit screen....

 

now that's the ticket !!

now I'm gonna  go in there and give this unit a proper beat down ..

and well-deserved if you ask me.

[davidb7170]

Quick note -- I think you will find, like the vast majority of 500(X) users, that the example patches in the Best Of, etc. setlists pretty much don't give you what you need (they suck in other words), and you will end up creating your own for your style, preferences, and equipment, because everybody's tastes, amps, and guitars are different. I only found a couple in those setlists that were anywhere close to anything I'd use, so I moved those into my own setlist and tweeked it to my liking - including how I wanted my JTV's to be set. When I first got my 500, my reaction to the included set lists was Ugh... I gotta say the same for my prior X3Live, and XTLive units. It was really rare to find an included patch that I liked from the git go....

 

I'm thinking that you probably have it set in the global stuff so it cannot force JTV model selection, otherwise, the Son of Plexi, would select the appropriate guitar model, not the last one you used. I can't recall if its chosen guitar model was the LP or a strat, but I think it is the LP for that one. At least that was how my 500, and now 500X units do it -- as I have them set.

 

Good luck.

Dave

[bobwilken]

 thanks for the input Dave...

yeah I guess it just boils down to what everybody's  trying to make me understand...

all the presets suck .. end of story .. so man up and deal with it.

 

either tweak it into submission and obedience .... 

or trade it in for a different piece of kit ... 

but for now , I'm not willing to surrender

[Tboneous]

ok , so let me get this straight  ...

are you saying that I actually have to  take the time to go in there and save every preset in this whole unit 

with mags as the source...or else use a regular guitar ? that's plain stupid - mags should be the default on the HD500X..

any presets involving the variax as the source should be optional not standard ..

but instead you have to go in there and take the time to customize and redo everything ...

this setup is totally back - asswards.

 

seriously .. that is absolutely  ignorant ...  that function should be controlled from the guitar  ... not the peddle board

unless you specifically tweaked that preset to do that .

tweaking and saving should be optional not mandatory just to be able to use the device.

 I pretty much keep the variax setting on the acoustic setting because that's basically all I use the variax for..

when i stomp into an overdriven metal preset ... the damn thing shouldn't automatically shift into an acoustic 12 string

I gotta admit , so far the HD500X has me absolutely disappointed .. 

 what the heck is the point of having 500 presets  that don't  at function properly out of the box ..let alone sounding like crap.

 

for $500 it should  at least be somewhat intuitively functional right out-of-the-box ...

I know that  presets all require tweaking. .. but I shouldn't have to re-save every preset in this machine just preview it.

 

and  re-saving every preset in the box just to be able use a variax guitar with it ..when they were supposed to be made for each other.

"dream rig" my a$$ ....more like nightmare.

 

i digress ..that angst is of course all toward Line 6  .. not you  Tboneous..

i'm not trying to shoot the messenger ... and thanks alot for your help..

 

cheers -n- beers

Just got back to this topic. I'm glad you got a better explanation and hopefully it will work out for you in the future. Seems like you have a lot of emotion about this so my fingers are crossed!

[bobwilken]

 not emotional at all .. sorry if I sounded that way...

sarcastic and annoyed  would be a better explanation...

believe or not , I've been laughing the whole time during this thread

 and enjoying the conversations with everyone

but..

radically inconsistent volume levels in all the presets ...  ranging anywhere from super loud to totally  inaudible..

God - awful sounding useless presets..

and unintelligent factory default   interactive settings between the variax guitar and the  HD500X .

 really makes you wonder what the heck they were thinking.

 

I just think it's a shame because the power of these things are amazing ... 

but the way they're set up coming from factory is disgraceful.

 

I have an  ancient first-generation  bright red POD XT PRO rack unit  and FBV short board combo

that absolutely walks all over this new stuff  ... but sadly , no variax capabilities.

 

anyway .. no worries .. because you and many others have set me straight about this "piece of kit"

and .. as my oldest son is always telling me..." it's all good "   B)

 

 

believe or not I've been laughing the whole time during this right nothing is been want to go to.

[jandrio]

...for $500 it should at least be somewhat intuitively functional right out-of-the-box ...

...but the way they're set up coming from factory is disgraceful....

i suggest u RTFM (Read The Following Manuals): :)

 

http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434d86d0507ef815d3fac/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Quick%20Start%20Guide%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20D%20).pdf

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434dff414f7b806e5ac6b/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Edit%20Pilot%27s%20Guide%20v2.0%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434dfb244f7b7f489af64/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Advanced%20Guide%20v2.0%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf

[TheRealZap]

an XT Pro should have a variax connector... perhaps you have a pod pro? the previous one?

 

 not emotional at all .. sorry if I sounded that way...

sarcastic and annoyed  would be a better explanation...

believe or not , I've been laughing the whole time during this thread

 and enjoying the conversations with everyone

but..

radically inconsistent volume levels in all the presets ...  ranging anywhere from super loud to totally  inaudible..

God - awful sounding useless presets..

and unintelligent factory default   interactive settings between the variax guitar and the  HD500X .

 really makes you wonder what the heck they were thinking.

 

I just think it's a shame because the power of these things are amazing ... 

but the way they're set up coming from factory is disgraceful.

 

I have an  ancient first-generation  bright red POD XT PRO rack unit  and FBV short board combo

that absolutely walks all over this new stuff  ... but sadly , no variax capabilities.

 

anyway .. no worries .. because you and many others have set me straight about this "piece of kit"

and .. as my oldest son is always telling me..." it's all good "   B)

 

 

believe or not I've been laughing the whole time during this right nothing is been want to go to.

[bobwilken]

an XT Pro should have a variax connector... perhaps you have a pod pro? the previous one?

 

 i'm sorry , but you're mistaken ....

the POD XT Pro is a bright red rack mount unit and does not have variax compatibility..

The cat five connection is only for a  foot controller not for the variax.

nor does the FBV short board  foot controller that you run it with.

I own them both and I can assure you that they are not a part of the variax ecosystem.

 

perhaps you have it confused with the 3nd generation blackbox HD PRO and the newest 4th gen blackbox HD PRO X

but the original 1st gen POD PRO and 2nd gen POD XT PRO are not variax units

 

which is kind of weird when you consider that the POD XT LIVE floor unit does have a variax input.

[TheRealZap]

sometimes i hate being wrong... but yeah, i was going by the fact that the xt live has it...

seems strange that the xt pro doesn't but i did confirm in the manual that you are correct.

 

i wasn't confused, i have the hd pro x, i simply assumed wrong.

 

not all tones are created for the same purpose... that accounts for the volume differences... and they are huge sometimes!

but what works in a bedroom or headphone environment won't work for a live situation, etc.

 

 i'm sorry , but you're mistaken ....

the POD XT Pro is a bright red rack mount unit and does not have variax compatibility..

The cat five connection is only for a  foot controller not for the variax.

nor does the FBV short board  foot controller that you run it with.

I own them both and I can assure you that they are not a part of the variax ecosystem.

 

perhaps you have it confused with the 3nd generation blackbox HD PRO and the newest 4th gen blackbox HD PRO X

but the original 1st gen POD PRO and 2nd gen POD XT PRO are not variax units

 

which is kind of weird when you consider that the POD XT LIVE floor unit does have a variax input.

[bobwilken]

i suggest u RTFM (Read The Following Manuals): :)

 

http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneGuide/

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434d86d0507ef815d3fac/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Quick%20Start%20Guide%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20D%20).pdf

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434dff414f7b806e5ac6b/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Edit%20Pilot%27s%20Guide%20v2.0%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf

 

http://line6.com/data/6/0a06434dfb244f7b7f489af64/application/pdf/POD%20HD500%20Advanced%20Guide%20v2.0%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf

 

that first link is pretty cool ..

kinda reminds me of back in the day when I had one of those "how to keep your Volkswagen alive" manuals..

The guy was stop at the middle of rebuilding something and go twist up a blunt.

 

but  my main point is the fact that you should not have to RTFM just to test drive a preset . :D  B)

[jandrio]

...but my main point is the fact that you should not have to RTFM just to test drive a preset . :D B)...

can a beginner  drive a car without first having 2 take some lessons? ;) :)

[radatats]

but  my main point is the fact that you should not have to RTFM just to test drive a preset . :D  B)

 

you don't have to RTFM (read the f%&cking manual) to test drive the preset but if you want to build your own or deconstruct and analyze how and why a tone was made and either works or doesn't work you definitely need to RTFM...

[bobwilken]

can a beginner  drive a car without first having 2 take some lessons? ;) :)

 

actually I am 59 years old and had a Class A CDL license for 38 years before retiring two years ago

and I also own various other line 6 floor and rack models that behaved much better 

right out of the box straight from the factory  then this unit does .

 

people ask questions on forums to get help from people who already know things 

and are willing to share their knowledge and save others some time and effort.

and the manual can't tell you if your unit is broken .. or malfunctioning..

you can't ask the manual if it's unit is acting weird like yours is..

we come for human interaction .. not to be redirected to the iEncyclopedia Britannica..

usually we have been there already and found no solace.

 

if your teenager going to get that beginner's drivers license you referred to asked you

"hey dad,  can you explain to me how this parallel parking thing works ?"

would your response be "it's all right there in the drivers license manual son  ..RTFM "

 "gosh pops ,I never woulda  thought of that ,,,, thanks a lot for the help."

 

one RTFM comment is enough ... and I accepted that one graciously.

but returning with a 2nd references to RTFM in the same thread is not proper forum etiquette ...

and I would greatly appreciate it if you would not  come back with a third reference .

 

thanks for your input..

and i look forward to any help you may offer in the future

 

peace out    ;)

[bobwilken]

you don't have to RTFM (read the f%&cking manual) to test drive the preset but if you want to build your own or deconstruct and analyze how and why a tone was made and either works or doesn't work you definitely need to RTFM...

well , three of the first 8 presets have zero volume ..

5 of them  have a really bad hiss and hum from the stomp box settings 

and all 8 automatically shove your guitar into a variax mode that has nothing to do with that type of preset.

 

I guess we have a different opinion of what a simple preset test drive is.

if I was in a guitar shop checking foot gear ... I would've moved on to a different unit already.

 

to each their own

[radatats]

well , three of the first 8 presets have zero volume ..

5 of them  have a really bad hiss and hum from the stomp box settings 

and all 8 automatically shove your guitar into a variax mode that has nothing to do with that type of preset.

 

I guess we have a different opinion of what simple preset test drive is.

to each their own

actually I didn't say your test drive wouldn't crash and burn... :)

[TheRealZap]

sometimes the presets have different inputs assigned to them.. hence the zero volume.

believe it or not though... sometimes hum and hiss are a part of the tone....  (cant speak for intent with your referenced presets though...)

did you get the hd500x new? doesnt sound like the out of the box preset experience to me...

 

volumes all over the place... and the presets not being very desirable.. yes....

 

automatic variax models, odd inputs, no volumes, excessive hum/hiss... not so much....

[bobwilken]

actually I didn't say your test drive wouldn't crash and burn... :)

now that was freaking hilarious  ...... touché !!   ROFL :lol:

[radatats]

one RTFM comment is enough ... and I accepted that one graciously. but returning with a 2nd references to RTFM in the same thread is not proper forum etiquette ...

and I would greatly appreciate it if you would not  come back with a third reference .

 

peace out    ;)

 

hey bro, we are all users here, not the factory.  We do like to have a little fun here once in a while and there is nothing mean spirited about it.  Just your turn in the barrel for a little jocularity...  we still try to help everyone as much as possible even on the same question being asked day in, day out... not you, but just saying...

[bobwilken]

sometimes the presets have different inputs assigned to them.. hence the zero volume.

believe it or not though... sometimes hum and hiss are a part of the tone....  (cant speak for intent with your referenced presets though...)

did you get the hd500x new? doesnt sound like the out of the box preset experience to me...

 

volumes all over the place... and the presets not being very desirable.. yes....

 

automatic variax models, odd inputs, no volumes, excessive hum/hiss... not so much....

 

yes ,the HD500x was shipped brand-new factory sealed from American Musical Supply

and the JTV-89F what shipped brand spanking new from Sweetwater.com

 

that's why I've been on these forums this month asking questions

because I just invested almost 2 grand on this stuff .. and quite frankly very very disappointed.

these units just don't seem to be playing very well together. ..

something tells me these are not the two units that were  being  demonstrated in The dream rig Videos. LOL

 

I have plenty of other Line 6 stuff and no complaints.

 

I just want to make sure all the  problems can be resolved without having to send this stuff

back to the factory ... we all know what a hassle that is

 

but everyone seems to be helping quite a bit and hopefully soon I'll get this all straightened out.

hey,  I obviously got the two clunkers of the the bunch .. oh well sh!t happens.

The good news is that by being shipped all messed up it's really going to force me to learn this stuff inside and out .. not that I really wanted to...

Gearbox , pod farm , pod xt live , and pod xt pro ... all all came with at least a couple dozen presets that I liked just fine.

and as can be expected , most of the rest of the presets were just so so or flat out crappy.

but that was just due to a matter of personal taste in opinion .. 

 not because they just flat out did not  function properly .... they may have sounded crappy .. but they all worked.

 

so I will have to use the software and manuals to straighten it all out ..

as long as this is possible ....a few months from now I'll look back and have a good laugh.

i'm actually laughing right now ... albeit for the wrong reasons.

 

mucho grass 

[radatats]

Sweetwater is real good about the quality of their gear and they say that all guitars include a complete set up including the JTV's...  might be worth a call to your sales engineer to discuss any issues...

[bobwilken]

hey bro, we are all users here, not the factory.  We do like to have a little fun here once in a while and there is nothing mean spirited about it.  Just your turn in the barrel for a little jocularity...  we still try to help everyone as much as possible even on the same question being asked day in, day out... not you, but just saying...

 

oh I understand that ... the way you yourself are  having a good laugh at me

but at  the same time actually trying to help me out ..

and I think it's both entertaining and helpful ..

I welcome levity in a thread . and nothing beats witty sarcasm .. that stuff is great ..

especially for other readers .. it keeps the thread alive and healthy

 

 i'm an old duffer, been there and done that ...

i've been posting on  forums for over 15 years now..

you should try some of the sports forums ... some people really want your address so they can hunt you down and put a beat down on you

and I can assure you that I have not been offended in anyway ...

and I do not have a glass jaw .

 

but I can tell when something might start heading in the wrong direction.

best to politely bow out before  it takes over the thread ...

 

it doesn't bother me  personally at all...

but it is an absolute waste of time for others that might be reading here looking for answers

and to others that might actually want to constructively participate

it is the welfare of others in the thread ..and the thread itself that concern me..

not my  personal feelings. .. doesn't bother me a bit in that regard

 

if all someone really has to say is just RTFM 

both their time and ours is better served somewhere else.

 

but as you see I did not throw down the gauntlet ..  I offered him an olive branch

[bobwilken]

Sweetwater is real good about the quality of their gear and they say that all guitars include a complete set up including the JTV's...  might be worth a call to your sales engineer to discuss any issues...

 

yes ,  there are fantastic about that kind of thing

I had to send a guitar back once ... 

they sent me a new guitar and a return shipping label for the old one...

they let me keep using the one I had until  I received the replacement..

you can't beat service like that.

 

like I said it's just a pain in the butt to go through all that ..

so I won't unless I'm absolutely sure I have too.

 

 as long as it's not broken .. or untreatable  , I'm not going to go that route.

[jandrio]

...one RTFM comment is enough ... and I accepted that one graciously.

but returning with a 2nd references to RTFM in the same thread is not proper forum etiquette ...

and I would greatly appreciate it if you would not come back with a third reference .

 

thanks for your input..

and i look forward to any help you may offer in the future

bob, tks 4 ur kind proper-forum-etiquette-complying posts.  i give u +1.

 

respecting ur wishes, i will not come back with a third reference whatever u further post.

 

feel free 2 express urself as u like, no further comments on this thread, the thread is absolutely @ ur disposal...

 

in the future if u need 2 access any other setting through the HD500X Edit software on ur computer, pls open nother thread by pressing the "start new topic button" (pls c attached screenshot)

 

as Solon quotes, RTFMing helps u constantly learning more as u grow older...

:D :) ;)

[Tboneous]

I think the presets are designed to be the most extreme examples of the units capabilities and were never intended to be used in a CheapTrick cover band.

 

Stop being mad at the presets. Stop focusing on what you think should be offered to a "test driver". Start test driving the amp models. One by one. Learn how they behave. Then move on to the fx. Find out which chorus sounds best with what amp and in what position in the signal chain. Then move on to......

 

I like to think of it this way...

 

When I was a younger guitarling, I would go into the Haight Ashbury Music Center ready to impress all who would listen with my very best Stairway To Heaven chops. I would make a mad dash for that $4000 gold top Les Paul and grab the first biggest and baddest amp that would turn on if I was able to locate the power switch. Then I would ask the sales dude for two things.....A patch cable and a pick (Fender Heavy if you will sir)

 

Know what I didn't ask for?.....

 

40 stomp boxes, 12 different cabinets, 6 amp mic's, 4 acoustics, 3 Richenbachers and a Sitar!

 

Even after I got a job at the Haight Ashbury Music Center, when we got new amps into the store, I only wanted to hear or "Test Drive" a guitar straight into the front of the amp. Once I got that amp singing, then and only then did I consider placing an effect into the mix.

 

I am speaking to you, Bob, but also over your shoulder to anyone who is reading this trying to figure this mess out. This unit is a loooong way away from early mid price range multi fx processors and I think it requires a different approach than just plugging in and rocking out.

 

Think of it as you being locked in you very own personal Haight Ashbury Music Center with a bunch of amps, fx and guitars and a custom shop. Then grab that Gretch off the wall, have the custom shop slap in some lipstick pickups, tune the whole thing to open G, plug it into a Hiwatt and see how that sounds. Then move on....This is where the Pod is worth it's weight!

[bobwilken]

you obviously missed the entire point of the thread but thanks for the input.

 

what does any of that long  dissertation you gave ha to do with the malfunctioning board

automatically shoving my  my guitar into variax mode with an incompatible unusable preset.

 

no one is denying that most presets in any boards are junk...

just the fact that there are extremely crappy ....even for presets

and you didn't ask for that stuff forty years ago because it wasn't there to be asked for.

 

do you really think myself or anyone participating in this thread doesn't know how to

plug a guitar into an amp and dial in a decent setting in a few minutes ?

 

or plug a regular guitar into the HD 500 X and have a few Settings up and running in no time at all ..

that's not the point ..

I know it's an awesome piece of equipment , and when dialed in right it'll do everything but cook dinner.

 

The problem is the synergy between my JTV-89f and the HD500x...

and whether  or not the problems I am having are restricted to my particular unit

or others are sharing the same situation .... and about what to technically do about it in either case.

 

The crappy presets would not matter so much if the unit didn't automatically shove you into one ..

and the fact that the presets are unusually crappy.. as far as crappy presets go , with ridiculous volume variations.

if you have any input on that situation I would like to hear it..

 

and when you made that mad dash for that $4000 gold top Les Paul and grabbed the first biggest and baddest amp that would turn on....

i I am willing to bet it didn't start right off sounding like $100 guitar into a $50 ramp

 

which was my experience after $2000 investment

and you are a little late to the party ...it has is all been worked out

[Tboneous]

...

radically inconsistent volume levels in all the presets ... ranging anywhere from super loud to totally inaudible..

God - awful sounding useless presets..

 

That....plucked from someone else's dissertation. That and other comments from other posters in this thread who made mention of the presets and test driven presets and the like made me feel that my comments were relevant.

 

Whoa Be the Tide for having a thought! My mistake...

 

I guess you told me!

 

Feel better? I bet you had a cigarette after that one!

[bobwilken]

what the heck are you even whining  about ?

do i feel better about what ? I feel great.. never better.

you're the one who jumped in here all high and mighty with your thoughts...

acting superior like you know something ..

criticizing myself and others about our disdain for presets..

and didn't offer any help with .. or even address the problem that was portrayed in the original post

 

and there is nothing wrong with your philosophical view about presets ....

I totally  agree with you you ....they suck , we all know it..

but that is neither the main point nor the spirit of this thread..

 

you're the one with the attitude ...I honestly couldn't care less what you think..

 

so do you have anymore  unrelated irrelevant diatribe to offer ..

to a thread that was already solved  ... without your input .. and closed anyway ?

[Tboneous]

Bwaaahahaha!......

 

How about now? Do you feel better now?

 

And, and, my dad can beat up your dad!

Hee hee hee!

 

Don't blow a vessel Bobby! This is a forum about music, guitars and gear. Why are you so angry? You seem like a very emotional dude. Are you ok? Need a hug? Do you lug this type of sensitivity in all of your interactions or is this reserved for the safety and anonymity of the internets? Hahahaha!

 

I'm just funnin' with ya Bob! Relax! I am glad everything is all working for you. Sorry I am so "late to the party" I will try very hard to remain timely in my participation on this forum in the future. Thanx for that valuable lesson Bobby! I am lost without your kind and gentle guidance.

 

And btw you care about what I think enough to be my pen pal in this thread...Bobby!

[bobwilken]

TROLL ALERT

[Tboneous]

Jandrio, thanx for the +1 on my completely late to the party and totally irrelevant post. Be careful though. I've got it from a very reliable and stable source, we'll call him Mr. Cuddlesworth for now, that there be a Troll on this here thread!

 

Proceed at your own risk!