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I'm actually thinking about getting another PC112+, or even a plain PC112, to "stack" under my Catalyst. It could be that when I had the PC112+ I just didn't know how to use it. One reason that the PC212+ is for sale is that it's just too heavy (I'm old!) so it never leaves the house. It could be that the "fullness" that the FRFR112 adds to the Cat's sound would be even better with the PC112+. Plus... STACK! Would look SO much better than the FRFR112, which works really well on its own as a bass amp. IDK though, money, and I haven't seen a used PC112+ on sale here in the Denver area in ages. OTOH, there's currently three PC212+ for sale.

You are correct, there is no "TOGGLE" setting. AUTO and MANUAL just determine what happens when you're in ACTUAL Snapshot Mode (accessed by pressing the UP/DOWN switches concurrently) - RETURN to PREVIOUS (Stomp or Preset) Mode immediately upon SS selection or remain in SS Mode until the CANCEL (MODE) switch is pressed again. To accomplish what you want, set "Preset Mode Switches" to "8 SNAPSHOTS". This effectively changes PRESET Mode to SNAPSHOT Mode. In that setting, to get to the actual PRESET MODE you first press the MODE switch to go from STOMP to 8 SNAPSHOTS, then press the UP or DOWN switches to enter PRESET MODE. IOW - the reverse of the default behavior.

Check "Settings View", Page 8: 2 MIDI Thru Off, On On When On, MIDI OUT also acts as a MIDI THRU; that is, it passes through any MIDI messages received at the MIDI IN jack or USB MIDI IN. NOTE: Incoming MIDI Clock is always routed to MIDI OUT/THRU and USB MIDI OUT, regardless of this MIDI THRU On/Off setting.

Why TWO footswitches? Are either of those configured as CC TOGGLE?

Glitch. Computers. Can't live with them, beating them with a stick just causes more problems.

You've got that switch set to CC Toggle.

You only get 4 Snapshots on the HXFX. FS1: Calls SS1 - activates amp's channel one via MIDI with Comp and Reverb ACTIVE/ON FS2: Calls SS2 - activates amp's channel two via MIDI with NG and OD ACTIVE/ON FS3: Calls SS3 - activates amp's channel three via MIDI with NG and OD ACTIVE/ON FS4: Calls SS4 - activates amp's channel three via MIDI with NG, OD, Delay and EQ ACTIVE/ON FS5: Toggles Chorus, regardless of SS FS6: Toggles other effect regardless of SS SAVE each SS with the requisite FX ACTIVE/ON. Unnecessary FX should be BYPASSED/OFF when the SS is SAVED. Since you only specified Chorus on Ch3 with NG, OD, Delay and EQ (SS4), placing the Chorus on FS 5 right next to FS4/SS4 allows you to hit both switches at once. Dicey, I know, but in lieu of a 5th SS, it's the best I can think of.

You can't assign a FS to a different FUNCTION in different Snapshots, only different VALUES related to a function. Likewise, a named FS, even if you change the FUNCTION (which changes it in ALL Snapshots), retains the NAME you've assigned it across Snapshots. IOW - If in SS1, FS1 is assigned to NOTE and a VALUE of D4, then in SS2 it will be NOTE but with the default VALUE of C3 until you change the VALUE. If you change the FUNCTION to MIDI CC in either SS, that change will apply to all other Snapshots. Regardless, the NAME will remain the same in ALL Snapshots.

Although the HXS functions work for most people, inevitably someone comes up with a scenario that just flat requires an external MIDI controller. Glad you got it working!

As I said previously: There is no GLOBAL VARIABLE in which to store the preset #. You can't use an IC to call an HXS preset, only an EXTERNAL DEVICE preset via MIDI. Out of curiosity - WHY do you need to always be able to return to Preset 000? It makes no sense to me that you would want to change Snapshots on preset x and at the same time return to preset 000. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Help me to understand. It's possible that you can use the Morningstar's PRESS&HOLD function to allow the Morningstar to duplicate the HXS "Snapshot Stacking" function. Then you MIGHT be able to use the DOUBLETAP ability to send the PC#000 message. IF you can do all of that, then you can use a single Morningstar FS to do it all from one switch, but it would still take two separate actions.

First, what do you mean by "the foot controller switch"? The HXS FS as I demonstrated in the example preset? Or a FS on the Morningstar? BTW - which Morningstar are you using? So, on EVERY preset you want a FS to take you to Preset 000??? Using the HXS as controller you can't use the same FS that you're using to toggle Snapshots. You need to configure a separate FS to do that, in every preset that you want to do that (go to 000) in. If you're using the Morningstar as controller you'll have to read the Morningstar manual to figure that out.

Here's a simple example preset. Note the settings in each Snapshot for IC1 (JVM preset select) and FS1 (Stacked Snapshots). amcolan1.hlx

Bank PC is correct. Just leave the MSB/LSB (BANK CC00/BANK CC32) at the defaults (OFF). Set the MIDI Channel to whatever your JVM is set to - default is probably one which is also the default HXS BASE Channel. If you're using the Morningstar to control both the HXS and JVM you'll want to set them to listen on different channels to prevent confusion. I also recommend that you get a MIDI Monitor program such as MIDI OX (FREE) so that you can affirm that your MIDI controllers are ACTUALLY sending what you THINK they're sending WHEN you think they're sending. What else is unclear?

You're using two MIDI controllers. That's entirely possible, but KISS principle applies. If you want to use the HXS as controller, then you would set up a preset whose default Snapshot (SS1 - the one that was active when the preset was SAVED) with the Delay and Drive Blocks BYPASSED and employ an IC (call it IC1) to select the appropriate JVM preset. Then you would SAVE SS2 with the Delay and Drive Blocks ACTIVE and use the same IC1 to again select the appropriate JVM preset. As noted in my previous post, you can "stack" the SS changes on a single FS. Just remember that the FS needs to be configured in EACH Snapshot. NOTE that if SS1/IC1 sends, for example, PC#54, unless SS2/IC1 sends a DIFFERENT PC#, PC#54 will NOT be resent when returning to SS1, so the JVM will simply remain in that preset. If SS2/IC1 sends a DIFFERENT PC# (selecting a different JVM preset), then PC#54 WILL be resent when you return to SS1. Since the HXS has only 3 Snapshots, if you want more variations of a single HXS preset you'll need to use your Morningstar and specific MIDI effects and JVM preset assignments vs HXS Snapshots. You can connect the Morningstar to the HXS MIDI IN and use MIDI OUT/THRU to connect to the JVM. REMINDER - KISS principle applies!

When you load a preset, if that preset immediately switches to another preset then the rules of THAT preset now apply. There are no "variables" available globally for any preset to access. If you want the new preset to do something, you must EXPLICITLY set it up to do that. You cannot use an Instant Command (IC) to switch to another HXS preset, only to switch presets on an external device. For instance, you can use an IC to switch channels on your amp. You can set a FS to switch to another HXS preset, but see my first point. You CAN configure a PRESET to, when first loaded, load a specific SNAPSHOT (call it SS1), and that SNAPSHOT, via an Instant Command (call it IC1), can set the channel on your amp. You can also configure a FS to switch to another SS (call it SS2) which, again via the same IC1, switch the channels on your amp. That FS can be set so that, when in SS2, it goes to SS3 or back to SS1 (PRESS/PRESS&HOLD). Likewise, in SS3 it can go to SS1 OR SS2. Each SS can change your amp channel. How you go about doing this depends upon your goals and which SPECIFIC JVM amp model you have. Based on the manuals I have (JVM410H & C; JVM410HJS) the 410H/C uses Program Change messages to SAVE the Channel + FX + Reverb + Master settings. The 410HJS does that but can also use Control Change messages to simply switch channels and modes. It may be that the 410H/C can also do this, but those are the manuals that I happen to have. Which JVM do you have?

I played around with this for a while. Most of the Marshall style amps I tried had a little of that when I cranked the gain, treble and presence. When I lowered the gain from 7.4 to 6.5 the overall tone cleaned up a lot. Setting the SCREAM to 0 Gain/10 Level (very common way of using it with Marshalls) also cleaned it up a lot. Using the Input Gate at 500ms decay also helps. Pulling out the Compressor made the biggest improvement. Try the attached modded version. DM Tone Mods.hlx

Attach an example preset so we can actually test it and look for the problem.

Attach the preset so we can try it on our Stomps.

Glad you got it working. Rock On!

Be sure that the cable you ordered is a STEREO cable vs a BALANCED cable. They LOOK the same (both TRS) but they are not.

I did a search for info and it looks like a simple 2-button LATCHING switch. You should be able to run a common stereo cable from the Helix Ext Amp jack to the Amp's FS jack, with one Helix FS set to "TIP" and the other set to "RING". Your multi-y cable should work, just be sure you've got tip to tip and ring to ring. Basic troubleshooting if all else appears to be correct, get a proper stereo cable. Get a multimeter/continuity tester. Check your Marshall FS to see what happens when you press the switches. One switch should be TIP and the other "RING". See if you can make Helix do the same. I'm pretty sure that "1 and 2" will not be relevant and could even damage your amp. Set the switches to LATCHING. When the preset loads, the SAVED status of the switches determines if the assigned amp function will be activated or not. IOW - if the FS is assigned to TIP and that is the REVERB, then if the preset is SAVED with that FS ACTIVE (LIT) then REVERB will be activated.

You realize that this thread is almost two years old?

Yep, that's why I mentioned the difference between the Apple cable and others. Yep, Apple. Glad you got it working!

Forgot about that! So many possibilities, easy to forget things you never do for whatever reason.

If you're using a Stomp Mode FS to BYPASS a block, then the FS Ring reflects the category of effect - green=delay;blue=mod etc. If you are using a FS to send MIDI then the FS can be whatever color you choose in CommandCenter. Snapshot colors are also selectable, but if you're stacking snapshots then the FS Ring reflects the assigned color for the TARGET snapshot, not the active snapshot. Again, how the colors are set and if they CAN be depends on the details of what is being attempted.