pianoguyy

This may sound so 1999... turn the pc off. turn off the pod. Plug the usb into both units. Turn on the pod. Turn on the pc. USB is made to be able to plug in and out while turned on. But there are (on my old computers, not so much the new ones) settings that could make it not work that way. And, check your usb version. I don't know if these are backwards compatible or not. ALSO, I didn't read every word of every post to see if someone else said this or not - Try turning off your firewalls (including the Microsoft one) and virus scanners during installations.

Well, yeah, they are two totally different sounds. Do you want to wah the distorted sound, or do you want to distort the wah sound. Placement always makes a difference.

my guess --- only because I have been doing this awhile --- is that you are trying get the files into the pod by using the 'file' tab at the top, and they keep overwriting each other always in slot 01A?

I thought this needed repeated:

What were they playing it through?

It is 6 years old. No, it isn't going to be around too much longer. That doesn't mean that the HD Series is dead, nor is the $500 price point. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did an HD505 or HD600. It is also possible that they come out with a Helix Lite (once they get the actual Helix out). Don't get me wrong, unless you are a member of the iChurch of Apple, you don't need to buy the new stuff just because the new stuff is out. I have a 500 and could give two craps about anything else. Nothing else matters to me. I don't even need 'new' features added to my unit. I have a unit that I wouldn't have bought if it didn't suit my needs. I mean, holy crap, there were people buying Amplifi and Firehawk to replace their HD units because "well, dude, it is new, so it has to be better, and I must have it." There are even people who bought the 500x to replace the 500 -- its got an X in its name, it has to be eXcellent. No wonder they don't like their units. They don't take the time to use it. They buy it, and start searching for what is coming out next.

That's where some of the 'invalid entry' messages come from. IF a particular patch gives an issue, then run it through the converter. Otherwise, it shouldn't be needed.

Would that honestly be a bad idea? I am not concerned with my own survival. My issue is the fact that I can't find people who can live without electricity/internet. Like, my bank, if the power goes out or their database goes out, they can't give me any of my money. They could lose everything I have with them and not have a single piece of paper that could lead back to any of it. Oh, and fyi, I only get lost when I rely on technology. LOL GPS is only good (for me) when I first know where I am going. There are too many 6 lane highways, and machines don't specify that I need to be in the 3rd lane in order to end up on the proper exit. They just say "keep left" or "recalculating". I need to know what I am doing, and then the technology can be my sidekick.

Believe it or not: A file manager/database would not be a horrible idea. But I wouldn't want it to be part of EDIT. When a file is in EDIT, it doesn't need archived. I would want it to be standalone. Something where you can see/search based on criteria - like, show me all of my Marshall patches or show me all files with drive set less than 30%. And yes, maybe add a section where we can add artists and songs, so if we want a file that sounds like "Elle - Ex's & Oh's", we can search for it. Hell, as long as I am wishin and hopin, I have a patch, show me similar patches. But I have far more than the 512 patches that can fit into the Pod. Mostly because I save each file under a song name -- I have the same patch saved many times, because I use it for different songs. It would probably not make much sense for L6 to design software for me and the 10 other guys in the world that do it the way I do it. But it would be nice if they did, because it can be tailored to the specs found in L6 files. Which would be far too difficult for me to design in something like Access.

There's only 8 setlists. What exactly can't you manage?

I have no complaints about my HD500. So I haven't even bothered with the HD500x or Helix. Just yesterday, someone said that they returned their Helix because, while nice, just was not worth the price for them. So, really, you need to figure out what you want to do but can't do with your 500. And then, when you have that list, figure out if you need to upgrade to the 500x or to the Helix. AND you need to determine if this upgrade is worth the money. If all you want is - as example - a delay, you don't need to spend $1500 on the Helix, when a $60 pedal can do the trick.

That is a joke, right? Sarcasm doesn't always show well when in print. I would hate to think that this is a real desire.

I have not looked at the Helix. I have not even seen one in person. My only exposure to the Helix has been here on the L6 board, and one brief mention on a Jackson board. I have a perfectly functioning unit that I would not have bought if I was not completely satisfied with (other than wanting an Android software version of EDIT). So, I have no reason to pay any attention to other products.

Any thing that is going to be showcased at NAMM is going to be for/about the new stuff, not the HD units. That doesn't mean that there will never be new updatates/upgrades to either product. But, as a business, their first priority should be to make sure they get the new stuff out before they start catering to people that are buying 5 year old gear. For example, since they are designing EDIT for the new stuff, they could, in theory, use some of the new design for the old stuff. But why would they showcase it for the old stuff. NAMM, like any trade show, is always about the future, not the past.

Yes, order makes a difference --- which is why I had multiple of many pedals. Effects sound different when put before or after each other. What will work best for you will all depend on you want. Grab a bunch of wires and test out various configurations.

I learned years ago - there is only so much you can learn without first-handedly experiencing something. On paper, why does a Casio keyboard cost $200 and a Roland costs $5000, when the Casio is so much better? Play it. Experience it. You'll quickly understand. The EDIT software can only do so much without having it hooked up to hear what the end result sounds like.

that is where the food got its name. I live in a town called Hershey. Yes, there is a highway.

Dual amps and phasing (yes, I saw the other post in the other thread) is simple, even without knowing that it is phasing that is causing it... Make your sound. If you don't like what it sounds like - CHANGE IT. Sure, it may be a phasing issue which can be solved any number of ways. But, in order to keep it simple, we don't need to know what the cause is. All we need to know is that the end result is not pleasant. So, again, CHANGE IT. Change it until you get a result that you like. Save all of the science experiments for the lollipop guys that spend their time wishing Stefon got his own spinoff from SNL. Yay Rosie! Twist the knobs until you get a sound that you like.

It was my first modeler. It was the first piece of 'modern' gear that I owned. It replaced a complete rig (everything between the guitar and the pa) that had been left unchanged (because I had perfected it) for 20+ years, I did the same. Work on it at home. Work on it at rehearsal. Try it out live on one song. Try it out on a set. Try it out for a night. Eventually, stop taking the other rig as backup. Sell everything.

Absolutely. Unless someone is providing the backline for me, I have never used anything on stage or in the studio without first working with it. *with the exception of guitars. I had a deal with a brand and would literally be on stage with a new guitar each night. Sometimes I would pick it out earlier in the day at a dealer and then have my guy get it ready by showtime, other times it would be a surprise and would just be there for me. But since it was always the same brand of guitars, they weren't really any different than each other. Everything thing else has always been used first. It is sort of like learning a song. You don't learn songs on stage. You don't learn songs at rehearsal, You learn songs at home, on your own time. You bring what you learned to rehearsal to put it all together with everyone else. On stage, you get paid, there is no room for error. I gave this piece of advice to a stripper who fell going down the steps: You get up on stage and you do the same routine twenty times a night. You are going to make a mistake. The difference, however, between being human and being an entertainer, is simple. You do it 100 times a week to perfection. But me, the customer, I am only here to see you do it one time. If you make a mistake, all I know is that you screwed up. I don't know the 100 times you did it flawlessly. I just know you as the girl that fell, and that is the story I will tell to my friends. And I said the same thing to a chef as I was firing him: How many times have you cooked this meal. How many meals have you cooked today. None of that matters to a customer. They are only concerned with their one meal. Most people eat 2, sometimes 3 times a day. If you screw up a plate, you destroyed a third, possible half, of their daily eating. Their night is ruined. And depending on what you messed up, your mistake could mess with their system and ruin tomorrow as well. Never take untested gear on stage. There is too much at stake.

I mean, when was the last time you sat around with the bro's talking about technical gadgetry using such informative words. Sure, the lollipop makes informative videos (even though I can't watch without wondering when he is going to start crying) if you want to impress a member of The Geek Squad with all of you knowledge on technical specs, but here is what we (musicians) need to know.... Plug in your guitar. Select your amp, because we all know what an amp is. Its got volume and tone. Set them the same way you would your physical amp. Next, do you want an effect? Turn the knob until you get to the effect that you want.... See, it is not that difficult, and there was no big fancy technical words or phrases being used solely to make you feel inadequate. Real talk for real uses by real people. Of course, now that I said all of that... There are some non patch related settings that need set before we even start to plug in a guitar, otherwise, nothing we do will make it sound good.

i don't use an amp, nor do I use the unit's fx loop, which means I am definitely not the guy to answer this. However: Comparing the fx loop with the guitar in: The fx loop redirects the signal. Not everything is going through the 'tone' section, some things are going through just the 'power' section. There is going to be a difference. Just look at the way different fx sound when placed before distortion than when place after. The 4cm is will be the same.

I think there a lot of us that are 'old rocker' dudes here. So, what seems to be the problem? How do we help?

Without going a full-fledge FRFR, you could get a keyboard amp. There are a couple "pa in a box" type units, that look like a typical combo but are actually a 'combo pa'. Anything else will probably color your tone too much. Which is fine if you will always use that setup. But anytime you switch from a physical amp to a different physical amp or direct to a mixer, your tone is going to change. Which is why most of us suggest staying as neutral as possible, so that you always remain the same.

As far as things sounding 'thin' or whatever else they may sound... One thing to remember is this.... When you play through your amp/monitor/whatever, you aren't hearing a guitar amp sound. You are hearing a MIC'd guitar amp sound. What you hear coming from the pod is what the crowd would hear through the pa (the final sound). Which is different than a hearing a physical amp on stage which would then be mic'd, which would alter the final sound that the crowd hears.