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Is it a loss of 6 if you do not use same, or is it a gain of 6 if you do? Hi chicken, meet egg. Many people can only get clean sounds when it is not set to same. The +6 often distorts the sound. A basic 'too much input' type of distortion -- clipping. I don't have the problem. Well, I do have the problem, but I adjust my playing to help alleviate it. Clean sounds with guitar/same. There is also the amount of noise created by using 2 inputs. But, I do agree, going with a single guitar input seems to make everything easier. If I knew now what I knew then, and I could do it all over again from scratch, I would definitely not use guitar/same.

It should be noted... Do not use mic as an input if you intend on using the vocoder. Vocoder activates the mic jack regardless of input. If mic is already an input and you use the vocoder, you get a mix of regular mic and the vocoder --- which sort of defeats the point of a vocoder, lol.

Because of the situations that I run into, my usage/storage may be different than many others... But, it basically boils down to: Backup your files. Then backup the backup. And finally, keep a backup in a place (such as the cloud) that is less likely to break, error, burn, or be stolen. I keep the bulk of my patches listed by Song Title on the computer and then I import them in the order they are needed. Yes, sure, sometimes I use the same patch for different songs, but I still save them separately. However, when you go from band to band, or take requests - it sure is easier to click "In A Gadda Da Vida", than it is trying to remember "well, was that the Doors patch I used for that song?' And for me, set one of the night goes in setlist 1. Set 2 goes in setlist 2. It makes it real simple. If I had a Variax, obviously, I would probably need 2 copies of each song. One for guitar and one Variax. That way you aren't limited to "I have to switch guitars between these songs becase I need my VariAx patch" I mean, I have heard some of these guys having patches for EACH guitar that they use. Not me. Guitars sound different, sure. But I buy them to sound different from each other. Same patches no matter what guitar I use. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, I will never use a BC Rich WarBeast to play Woody Guthrie. So when you see a patch titled, Death To All, just assume that I am not using a Flaming Pink Stratocaster with mid-level pickups. In that instance, the song patch was probably designed with a guitar that is a little more aggressive in mind. But for the most part, one patch for all guitars. ***All of this changing back and forth that I do is one of the reasons why i would love a Mobile Edit. I really dislike carrying a computer around with me everywhere I go.

Start from scratch. Don't try to adjust your current tones. Start new. But more importantly, don't try to make it sound like a Strat. They are different guitars, they will never sound the same.

My bad, I thought you were just talking about intermittent changes of tempo due to human inaccuracy. Whereas I was talking about purposefully changing tempo between parts. I can't speak for RJ, how old do you think I am, LOL. But there are a lot of stories like that. Not just to fit into the time allotted, but I mean, think about all of the older technology that we used to have to use. Electricity wasn't common, and voltage certainly wasn't regulated. Sometimes you even had to hand crank your gizmo. So, you go into a recording studio, and if the voltage was off, it would cause the machines to run slightly slower. And then when mastered on a machine with good electricity, it appears to be sped up. That, when learning songs, was actually how I use to match tunings prior to having a good pitch shifter. I would speed up or slow down the tape on my wheel-to-wheel. If a song didn't have a standard tuning (especially something like Van Halen that was a 1/4 step instead of a 1/2 step), or if I wanted to play it in a different key - I would copy it to my wtw, and use the speed control until the pitch matched. That's also why I used to have to play EVH slightly faster than EVH did. Tape stretches. Belts that run the machines (before we used chains) stretch and could even slip. All of these things can cause time and pitch variations, which is greatly off topic of tempo accuracy, but who cares - I think that has been answered simply by saying "humans are inaccurate". It is time to discuss the rest of the stuff now, lol.

1. It was part of a larger discussion. So, no, it wasn't just Whitesnake that we were discussing. 2. In that forum, yes, Whitesnake and bands similar are the tones we look for. I wouldn't go to a classical music forum and expect people to look for an electric guitar as the answer to their questions. So no, here, I would even bet there are people who don't even know who Whitesnake is. 3. This post has in its title, Good Metal Tone, so yeah, I think he is looking for gain. 4. It's a demonstration as to how the rules we were taught (don't use too much gain for metal) don't translate into the real world. Back in Jimi's day, the rule was "no feedback." He not only broke that rule, he made it his lollipop. Obviously, you need to make it sound 'good', but so many people are afraid to turn it up. I stand behind my statement here the same as I did there. Turn it up! I find it baffling, that the guy (over there) said that he found his dream tone and how to make it, but caught criticism because it wasn't "following the rules". What was it Yngwie said ~~~ people always say that less is more. How can that be? Less is never more. More is more.

As for gain/distortion - if you are a beginner, too much will cover up your lack of ability and give you a false impression of your talent. But if you are an old professional ---- We just had this discussion over at the Jackson fansite. Someone just had the opportunity to open for Whitesnake. He said that they sounded amazing. He checked out the rig and the settings. And then the next night, he got to jam on that rig. He was amazed that there was so much gain because he was always under the impression that too much gain is bad. F'THAT. If that is the type of sound you are going for, turn it all up to 10. Everyone in the discussion, but me, was telling him to turn the gain down because "it won't sound purdy". Dumb lollipop mother lollipoppers, the very celebrity musicians that they admire all have their gear at 10. The guy just said that he saw the gear at 10 and loved the sound. He said that he sounded amazing when he played that same rig (tone is not always in the fingers) and was getting all sorts of tones out of his rig --- yet, they still told him to turn it down. They're so stupid. Find what you like and do the opposite? What kind of philosophy is that! Think about it - Everyone told Hendrix that feedback was a bad thing.

Because it has been all of 3 hours since I had to say this, I think it is time for a repeat. In retrospect, Global EQ is probably the worst thing L6 could have done. Or at least, they could have explained it better (where is the updated owner's manual!), because they know damn well that they have a lot of non-professionals owning their gear. The global equalizer IS NOT to be used more than once. Set it and forget it. In fact, just leave it turned off like I do. GEQ is not used to make each sound.

1. Many older songs used variable tempo on purpose, which isn't used as much today because everything is computerized. 2. Tape. Some of the time differences is because of the use of tape, which stretches and therefore does not offer accurate playback. Which also explains why tunings don't match, **funny story. When I was playing with Meat Loaf, all of the old songs were in lower keys than the originals. I made mention of it, and asked if he can't hit those notes anymore. Just as a joke. I mean, I know sometimes we change keys just to make song transition smoother. I wasn't being rude. But the answer was - No, he can't hit those notes, but he never hit those notes. The original tapes were sped up (and therefore higher in pitch) to make them fit in the time alloted for records. It's different today with a CD allowing 80 minutes of continuous play, or digital which allows for no time limit. But back then, you had time limits not just for the album, but per side. Or an 8-track, with 4 "sides". Damn, I used to hate when the song would go silent because of the channel flip. Could you imagine what Pink Floyd would sound like today, if they could make one long Dark Side of the Moon with no time restrictions and the Dolby surround sound speakers.

While I wanted a tap tempo on my keyboard devices years before they started using it, the flaw in tap tempo is going to be the human that is doing the tapping. Not everyone is as accurate as they think. And then, on my L6 gear, you have the added issue of the physical button itself. If you sat and tapped for one minute, a difference of 100-105 between a few clicks is actually pretty decent. And just to be philosophical for a minute: Music becomes stale when everything is precisely quantized.

sometimes you gotta click where you don't think you can click

If you can think it, you can do it... So, outside of the Mr. Miyagi meditation: Step one in dialing in a tone is - find out what was used in the song you want to reproduce. For example, if you want to make a Lester William Polsfuss tone, you would not start with a Bogner, and you better not use a damn Stratocaster being that Les has a guitar named after him. Go find out what gear November Rain uses, and then use that as a starting point for what you dial in.

1. Studio vs live. Live patches can often be simple (and mono) because no one hears fx in dive bars. But studio work can be a little bit more involved. 2. You are absolutely correct. I've said numerous times - people try too hard and end up over-complicating things. The very sounds some people are trying to reproduce were made 50 years ago with a Marshall stack cranked to ten. Nothing fancy. Nothing tweaked. Why do we need 8 various effects trying to match it.

I am getting one of those Les Paul's with G Force tuning, which caused me watch some YouTube videos about it. A guy made an interesting quote that I am going to steal and use often... If you can't get over the fact that you have to tune your own guitar, then you don't have the drive to want to play guitar. https://youtu.be/Tq7oXYx0uME?t=15m38s https://youtu.be/Tq7oXYx0uME?t=15m38s one of these days i will remember how to display videos on here, lol https://youtu.be/Tq7oXYx0uME?t=15m38s <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Tq7oXYx0uME"frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> it only works for me one out of every 10 tries https://youtu.be/Tq7oXYx0uME?t=15m38s

I do it on headphones. I do it on $20 Wal-Mart computer speakers. I do it through speakers. The final tweaks need to occur at the performance center. But basics can be done anywhere,

You may be lucky and it may be a screw in tip. Plug in the rest of the headphone jack and try to screw it in.

It's a percentage thing. You make a higher profit margin per unit by selling the cheap ones. You also sell more of them. But, Ferrari isn't making their cars for the fun of it. There is plenty of profit involved. The difference is -- There is a shortage of rich people. If you survive on selling 10 units a year, you are up lollipopscreek when a recession hits and you only sell 8. But with 7 billion "poor" people in the world, you can spare to lose 2 sales. Yeah, but there were thousands of posts before the thing came out. So you can't go by that. Don't get me wrong, people are buying the thing. I am just pointing out the "hype" vs the reality.

Ok, so then you are not looking for an effect, you are looking for a specific model. THAT is going to be even less likely.

What else would you expect L6 to say? "No, people aren't interested in our newest product that we spent so much money inventing and hyping."

But remember, except for the master volume, the physical knobs are not a constant. Meaning - you use them to change the settings of a patch. But once you change the patch, the physical knob positions don't mean squat.

Which is all great, but it keeps getting further and further away from what I meant... I know how to play a G chord. I don't know what an IR is. But I know I-VI-IV-V What is a VTF. DSP. Alias functionality. But, damnit, I know how to twist knobs and make it sound puurrdy. And I certainly know how to swivel my hips and giggle my junk while giving a couple girls an evil grin which drives them bonkers.

Well, ok, true. You got me on that one. I rarely do dishes because I am always eating out, or have someone do them for me. Which is usually the same person that cooks. Which is usually a stripper. Or some other struggling actress/golddigger.

Ok, wait a minute... I have long spoken in favor of driver/os support. Not just for the Pod, but for many products. I have also addressed at it the Microsoft level, wanting them to keep compatibilty in new OS versions as well. I hate the fact that I had to buy a new computer; not because it was broken, but because one day I could no longer use it to do the same things I did the day before. Places like Yahoo and YouTube simply quit allowing my computer to function. It's not like I wanted to wirelessly stream 4k video to my tv (something I couldn't do when the machine was bought), I just wanted to check my damn email. And then, because I got a new machine, I had to re-buy all of my software. And even some of my external hardware was no good. All of the different browsers available, including dot matrix mobile browsers, that they program their sites to work with, but they won't let an old outdated Internet Explorer work on their site? Hey, there is a reason why people are buying 56 Chevy's and 69 Les Paul's. THEY STILL WORK. What good is a HD500 going to be in 20 years! It may still work, but what are you going to hook it up to.

My dishes get clean. What do I need a new dishwasher for?

Can I suggest... Save a blank tone/new tone, and maybe even a setlist full of blank tones. That way you don't need to come back here in two weeks asking for a way to erase everything.