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Nope. Not using wireless in this particular configuration. I do have wireless, but I use it with my Les Pauls. For what I am using the TI Boost for, you guessed it SGs and I hate having the wireless L6 Relay sticking up out of the top of my SGs. I have not had a chance to try rd2rk's preset yet, but I will give this a try. If it does not work, I will probably use it in front of the Helix, but that limits me being able to hit a switch on the Helix and have it change settings on my amp and turn the pedal off. Fx Loop for this pedal is set to instrument. My amp Loops are set to line via Hughes and Kettner that told me to use line for their fx loops.

So, in the preset I am building, change the IN-Z to auto and with global at being enabled it will pick up that setting in the preset? Or should I figure out the impedance of the pedal and set it to that?

Hey rd2rk, I have tried the onboard boosts. None of them do it like the TI Boost in to my amp. I kind of wanted to be able to have the Helix turn this loop on and off as I select different presets on the amp. I guess my only other option is to try the global settings thing you are talking about. I guess if I do this in global, then all presets will be like this or just the one I am building with the TI Boost?

I was kind of figuring this was the issue. Damn. I need this in the chain. It sounds so good when in to the amp direct. I am wondering if something like the Boss MS 3 would be any better? I still use the Helix but for the heavier stuff, I just need a boost in front and a good reverb pedal, my Grandmeister does the rest.

I have a Helix Floor that I use in 7CM with two Grandmeisters. I added a Tony Iommi Boost pedal in one of the FX loops at the beginning of the signal chain and it sounds lifeless. When I put the pedal straight in to my amp it sounds like it should. I am wondering why this is. My other two loops are used for my two amps and I really do not lose much tone in that set up but the boost sounds horrible. I really need to use this pedal in the chain. Any thoughts as to why this is? Is the buffer in the Helix just squashing it?

Support does not think there is a problem. I have been back and forth with them and their position is that there have not been any users complaining of any issues with the power cab especially the issue with the two cabs linked with L6 Link. Oh well.....

Just heard back from Line 6. They said they are not seeing this with other users, so they are not seeing this as an issue. This is why we all should put tickets in. This looks like this will not get resolved. I tried my best with them to explain everything. I am just hoping it does not happen again. If you follow the steps I mentioned, you have a good chance of it working most of the time. Over 95% of the time. Would suck to be in a gig during the other 5% though.

What type of file are you trying to import? .wav or .hir? If it is .hir, they will not load into the the PC+. Those will only work in the Helix. We all found this out the hard way. Market place does not tell you this.

Well, a lot of people here will tell you different things about this. There is no absolute answer. The Helix with the PC is a different animal, bottom line. It will be different than a tube amp in some ways and similar in others. I think the biggest plus with the PC is that with the Helix, it is extremely versatile and you can pretty much do everything with just those two pieces of gear. That is what I like about it. When compared to my tube amp with 2x12 V30s, the Helix and PC sound just a bit more thin at times. However, this is because my 2x12 cabinet has much thicker birch wood and it is a 2x12 vs my two 112 PCs. But, they sound very close and I can dial in something that sounds almost identical. I find myself playing mostly through my Helix and PC now because everything is just so versatile. I can have HX edit open on my computer and dial everything in here since I am using L6 Link with the two PCs. Can't do that as easily with the tube amps. Even when I was using 7CM with my two tube amps, things sounded really good, but then the level of programming was much more involved with dialing in two amps, setting MIDI controls to do channel changing and presets, etc. A lot of work. With the Helix and PC, pretty easy to do.

Heard back from Pete today. They are looking into this. Keep sending tickets.

Came into my studio this morning and this is what I found. He wants the PCs to and Helix to stay.

Seems like at the same show or maybe same tour, he figured the mic was not necessary?

Don’t get me wrong. I am a big fan of Steve Howe, but why would you do this when you can send direct outs from the PC +??

@rd2rk can probably chime in on the 212 issues. I did not have my 212 long enough to experience that. I preferred the 2x 112s

Just submitted another ticket about this. PLEASE, of those on here with same issue, do the same. They do not think it is an issue. I sent them the link to this thread (although there are other places this is posted on the forums). I love the Power Cabs now that I really understand them, but this issue sucks! A lot of people may not be experiencing it because they do not daisy chain two cabs, but this was the beauty of the L6 Link set up and Line 6 Edit being able to control both cabs. I really think if they fix this bug and the problem with the HF Driver issue that pops up on the 212, that these Power Cabs will be their best thing yet when added to the Helix.

Ah, you got me bro. I play everything. Just got done playing Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Maiden. But last night, playing some ambient stuff with pads and looper. Might venture in to some old Rush later tonight. Fly By Night album. I still have to change my Hemispheres setting that I was using in 7CM with my two Grandmeisters (think you helped me build that patch along with Josh at L6). and translate it to full modeling with the PCs.

One thing that gets confusing is with 2 PC 112+ in HX Edit, in the Powercab section when using IR and set to preset, you have the choice of 1, 2 or 1+2. I bring up 1 and put the IR I want in there and then I bring up 2 and put the IR in there, then if I choose 1+2 it defaults to IR number 0. If I want to put the same IR on both cabs, I have to choose 1+2. I hope that is right because the ear can play tricks on you sometimes thinking that there is a difference in what you are hearing when choosing 1 or 2 because technically you are hearing both cabs but just editing 1 or 2.

Actually, also meant to add that of course you can bring up the volume of the internal IR on the helix to match what the IR does when loaded in the cab, but I find just a small bump then on the Flat level brings the FRFR to have a bit more presence. Louder is not always better, but for the IRs it tends to bring them into a more present state and not too harsh or not too dull.

Ok. Verdict is that FRFR with Helix IR sounds just like Power Cab with IR with L6 Link. All is working correctly. It is not messing with the HF Driver. I think what I have been doing is turning up the IR level when loaded in to the cab and that is what is sounding better. It allows the speaker to come alive a bit more. You can bump the level of the Flat level too. Typically, I am bumping the cab IR up to -12db from default -18db. That is a good range. If you bump the Flat Level up by +6db, the Cab with IR and Helix with IR in FRFR sounds the same. But, in theory, you have more headroom in the cab to bump the db up a bit. I find that little bump allows the speaker to be more present.

So, you would like me to: 1. Import Preset 2. Add my own IRs to where you have them in the preset. 3. Add same IRs to PC as well. 4. Link up both PCs with MIDI 5. Play preset in FRFR and notice what it sounds like with changing HF Trim settings. 6. Have snapshot turn off IRs, in the preset and turn on IR setting in Power Cab 7. Notice if there is a difference. (One thing to consider is that in my presets using IR in PC, is that I use different IRs for each cab. Not sure how I would do this with IRs in the Helix and going FRFR with PC....For this experiment, I will use the same IRs in both cabs).

Tried the cabs with PC Edit. I moved the HF driver levels and could hear the difference. I was unable to do the MIDI set up yet. Are you saying that If I have the exact preset that I am using with PC IRs and put in same IRs in the signal chain in the Helix and turn them on and then go FRFR that it should sound the same? They do not sound the same with all the same settings. The IRs in the PC sounds better. I know better is subjective and maybe I still need to figure out if when in FRFR if the Helix is sending a pure FRFR through L6 Link and not turning off the HF driver.

That is unfortunate. I was trying to convince myself I did something wrong. Has been working pretty good since then.

Using 2x 112+. L6 Link. Not sure how to tell if HF driver is on or off. IRs are at the end of chain. But have not tested this enough. Perhaps we can work together to figure this out.

Not sure why IRs in Helix with FRFR sound different than IRs in the PC, but they do. I think that the IRs in the PC is kind of like a custom version of the speaker mode in the PC. I could be wrong but that is what I am hearing. Could be also that I am not sure how I would assign an IR in the signal path to go to one PC and the other to go to another PC. Unless maybe I use different signal paths with the IRs in the Helix. Just so much easier to edit the IRs right in the Powercab section of the Helix output.

+1,000,001 Had that famous two PC112+ linked with L6 issue happen about 5 days ago. Hiss, then no sound. Had to turn everything off then back on again. Has not happened again. But, when you open a ticket the support folks ask all kind of questions about cables, etc. I keep telling them this is a known issue on the forums, but then they are very quiet about the subject.