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That would be this one: delock.com/produkt/83667/merkmale.html?g=776

USB only. Make sure to use the supplied USB cable or a similar trusted high quality product though. The Stomp is very picky when it comes to USB cables: Out of about two dozens of USB-A-to-USB-B cables that I have accumulated over the past 25 years, the Stomp works safely with about just three or four of them. (One of those is likely the original Line 6 cable, but I forgot which one it is, hehe.) That said, amazingly it also works safely with a 4 m (!) long new USB-C-to-USB-B cable from delock.com which I bought for a new MacBook Air M2 recently.

As for HX Edit, you will be still abe to connect to the Stomp using v3.70, but you won't be able to see or edit the new amp models. Editing your older presets should still work.

Your words, not mine… ;) but downloading the new firmware manually and using the Line 6 Updater to install it is as "idiot-proof" as it can likely get… :D https://line6.com/software

… among others.

So… I just found time to test it on my ancient MacBook Pro 2008 running El Capitan, and this amazing trick works! Brilliant! Thank you again!

Speaking of my over 12 years old MacBook, it can run up to MacOS Catalina which means it is still compatible with all Helix devices and the latest HX Edit. That's not bad in my book. If you need backward compatibility on an "antique" computer, make sure to partition the drive and install any OS you may need for any particular task. For example, my 2012 MacBook can boot Mountain Lion, El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave and Catalina. Most of the time I'm on El Capitan, but occasionally an excursion to Catalina is needed.

That's nothing new though. I've been through the 68k to PPC transition, upgrading from System 7.5.3 directly to OS 9. Then I've been through the OS 9 to OS X transition. Then the "Classic MacOS" layer was phased out. Then came the PPC to Intel transition. And so on, and so on. Every now and then there came a time when I just had to "let go" and find some new ways of doing things. Yeah, that sucks. Even Firewire hard drives are barely usable with the Thunderbolt adapter. Luckily, every FW drive also had a USB 2 connector to the rescue… But on the other hand, old Macs still do work: I'm using a MacBook Pro 2008 (!) as my mobile recording studio. It runs El Capitan and Logic 10.3.3, and with a little help of a bunch of intrepid tinkerers who have hacked old M-Audio Firewire drivers, I can still use an M-Audio FW410 interface from 2003 (!) alongside an Alesis iO26 Firewire from 2008, the HX Stomp, and a Roland Octa-Capture that I only bought in 2023 to have a multi-channel interface compatible with Apple Silicon while it's still backward compatible as far as MacOS Tiger (!). In total, that makes 18 XLR inputs plus the 4 inputs on the Stomp, bundled in an Aggregate Device. It works, and it will continue to work until the MacBook breaks down. And even if it would break down, I also have a mid-2012 MBP that can run exactly the same setup. The only serious upgrade to both "oldies" was to replace the spinning hard drive bottleneck with a fast high quality SSD. But of course, then I'd do the editing and mixing on a MacBook Air M2 in Logic 11. So in fact, I'm actually surprised that I can still use a computer that is now a whopping 16 years old as a super compact mobile recording studio. For comparison, scroll back 16 years from 2008 and try to do anything with a computer from the early 1990s… (I used to work on a PowerBook 140 for a couple of years, and I still have an LC475 that might even still work if I'd replace the buffer battery again, so… been there done that, hehe…) ~~~ Now, back on topic and back to Helix, it's actually amazing that the Helix platform is still going that strong, even though it's now 10 years old, and no helix device is being left behind. Kudos to Line 6!

What sometimes also used to work to make apps run on older unsupported MacOS, was to edit the LSMinimumSystemVersion key in *.app/Contents/Info.plist But this rarely works these days, even with all possible Apple Paranoid Security Shields™ down. It definitely didn't work for HX Edit v3.82.

I like this intrepid approach! :)

You may want to monitor everything through the Stomp, not through the Mac. Then you will have nearly zero latency on the guitar. In general, the Helix driver adds quite some latency on the Mac. I think you might get the best result when recording at 48 kHz sample rate – which is "native" for the Stomp – while keeping the Logic buffer as low as possible. But the lower the buffer, the sooner you run into problems with plugins. For the record, I'm doing multi-track recording – but not mixing – on a 2008 MacBook Pro running El Capitan because it enables me to use my two "antique" and "obsolete" FireWire interfaces together with the Stomp and a Roland Octa-Capture as an Aggregate Device, thus having 18 mic inputs plus the Stomp in total. It works, as long as you know the limits. In my experience, the worst bottleneck always was the spinning hard drive. Switching to a fast high quality SSD was a game changer, even on this old-timer Mac. What drive type does your iMac have? Spinning, fusion or flash memory?

HX Stomp Owner's Manual PDF → page 18

@Teerexness, you're literally barking up the wrong tree. ;) This is a user-to-user forum. Hence:

Which MacOS version are you using?

In Global Settings > Preferences make sure to set EXP/FS Tip to FS4 and EXP/FS Ring to FS5. If it's set to EXP1/2, the switches won't work because the Stomp logically expects an expression pedal. Other than that, the Ampero Switch is a rock solid device that just works.

Das tönt zimlech schwyzerisch… :)

Meanwhile I have updated the Stomp to 3.80 using my MacBook Air running Ventura. All good, no issues. Back on the MacBook Pro running El Capitan, the Stomp v3.80 is still fully usable and even editable via HX Edit 3.70, just without the new amps/cabs/fx, as expected. Presets with new blocks will appear blank, so just make sure you don't overwrite those blocks when editing something else. Line 6 Updater v1.28 will recognize the device as well and offer the previously available firmware versions up to 3.71. So a downgrade should be still possible on unsupported MacOS (I haven't tested it!)

Probably by the same method as on unsupported MacOS: download the actual firmware file for offline use use the Line 6 Updater app to upload it to your device

Definitely! Neither have I. At the moment I'm only playing an acoustic upright bass, and all I need on my Stomp for that is a parametric EQ and a gentle noise gate. If I need the Stomp at all, that is… (In fact, all I need for band rehearsals at the moment is an "antique" Boss GE-10 EQ and an old powered Yamaha 12" PA box ;)

HX Edit 3.80 now requires MacOS Catalina, so if you have to update a device using an older Mac, you'd need Line 6 Updater. See:

So do I. But I'm actually trying to do more editing directly on the Stomp anyway so that I'm not totally lost when using it on stage… Yeah, that sucks if you don't have any Mac that can boot Catalina or higher. I've been keeping my old Macs at El Capitan for a reason, of course: Compatibility with "obsolete" Firewire audio interfaces. M-Audio FW410 from 2003 (!) runs only with some user-hacked drivers on El Capitan, but it continues to work after 21 years. Alesis iO26 works even up to Catalina but the software only up to Mojave because it's 32-bit only. On the other hand, last year I bought the Roland Octa-Capture to have an 8-channel USB interface compatible with Apple Silicon. A brilliant interface! And not only does Roland still keep its drivers up to date, they have drivers compatible back to OS 10.4 Tiger; hey that's from… 2005! (Heck, I still have a working PowerBook G4 that can run Tiger and Leopard) Summed up, El Capitan is exactly the sweet spot where I can do multitrack recording with four audio interfaces bundled as an Aggregate Device: iO26, FW410, Octa-Capture, and HX Stomp. That makes 18 XLR inputs, plus the 4 jack inputs from the Stomp. I expect the Stomp should still work as a USB interface on unsupported OS. If not, I'd simply downgrade back to v3.71. There's nothing in v3.80 that I need. (I wonder if they fixed the bug I have reported…?) I don't know, I'm not a software developer. It's just a "quarter-educated" guess based on my three and a half decades of intrepid poking into software directories that an average Mac user should usually leave alone.

Not necessarily. They just may have to resort to the slightly tedious and potentially risky manual process using the Line 6 Updater: I haven't tested it though so proceed at your own risk…

Yep, no go on El Capitan, requires Catalina. The reason being that according to its Info.plist file, v3.80 has been compiled under MacOS Sequoia Big Sur so the backward compatibility has shifted. Whereas last year's v3.70 was compiled under Catalina which is why it still was "inofficially" compatible with El Capitan, and theoretically even back to Mountain Lion according to its Info.plist (I didn't test it). Still, my old MacBook Pro mid-2012 can boot Catalina. So HX Edit 3.80 will still run on a 12 years old machine. Only my even older MBP 2008 – which usually serves as my mobile multitrack recording studio – is out of luck… Oh well, that's life. :D Now… to put things in the right perspective: Apple has just released the Logic Pro 11.1 update these days. Guess what the requirements are? Sonoma! And I'm out of luck here because I won't upgrade my MacBook Air running Ventura – an OS that's only two years old! – anytime soon. :/

"10.15" = Catalina Also, from the HX Edit download page: For what it's worth, HX Edit v3.70 still runs even on El Capitan although unsupported. So I'll check v3.80 for El Capitan compatibility soon.

Is it? Yes, I use it for guitars and basses. Of course. But I also use it in Logic Pro on Aux busses e.g. PolyPitch as a stereo doubler, or the Hot Springs reverb, or the RetroReel on the master bus. Now, Logic has enough great plugins built in, so that Native is not necessarily "essential". But if I were using another DAW I would likely make use of Native way more often.