Brazzy

Hi, 

 

I reset my POD hd500 (flash through line 6 monkey) and did the global settings reset (press left on nav pad during startup). Now I need to recalibrate the expression pedal. 

 

I start up pressing right on the nav pad and follow the procedure. but when I press D to save. It returns an F and not  a P. After reboot the pedal is not working. I can see the values change during the process so it is not a hardware failure. 

 

please help!

Could it be that the sensor is dirty?

It might be that your getting RF from the power supply. If it's a laptop try unplugging the power supply and running on battery. Also you pick up RF from other sources such as other power supplies, wall warts, TV's. microwaves, cell phones certain light bulbs....stuff like that. Sometimes it's very difficult to isolate these.

Sometimes I get RF from my laptops power supply and sometimes I don't. Sometimes all I have to do is get farther away from those sources by backing away from them.

I just want to say how much I love my 500x. It seems the forums are always complaining and bitching about what's not there. I want to say, what a great tool, that makes my life much easier. I've been wanting to switch to the Helix, but I had a long talk with myself yesterday and it was decided the 500X does what I need, and does it well.

I still use my HD500 and am not disappointed in it, I have a lot of fun with that thing and will continue to until it gives up the ghost. As for people bitching??, this is not really a bad thing regardless of being a bad musician or a good one. If no one ever bitched about whatever it was that bothered them we would still be driving around in steam cars, lol. Improvements are made and we evolve because of bitching/complaining customers/users etc. etc.

Also not everyone learns the same way.

Guitars:

PRS Custom 24 SE <-- the one that I use the most these days

Epiphone Dot

Gibson SG

 

Would it help if I posted screen shots of my XT Live models?

If you do screen shots of the XT models, which I would think is a good idea, be sure to include all the info for the effects, mixer, etc. Most of the time one screenshot doesn't cover all the angles.

IMO creating patches is very particular to the person and the venue.  There many tips in the forum. Have scanned through the forum?

Do you play with band or by yourself with a drum machine? Are you trying to record into a DAW? All these things are going to effect how you create your patches.

You can check out this patch I made recently that seemed to get downloaded a lot lately. It's high gain but you could try changing the output settings and amp model to see what gives. http://line6.com/customtone/tone/1422228/ read the description so you know some of the specifics.

You should share some information about your set up such as which amp/amps you'll be using. Where do you play? What guitars do you use? and anything else you might think is pertinent. Such as what kind of tones you need/want.

It's not really hard to make patches but dialing them in is the key.

Pretty Cooool PunkyBoy! Thanks for sharing. I like metal and heaven knows I've worked all kinds of metal as a machinist I'm kinda liking that cardboard Strat, lol. I liked how porous it looked. lol

UPDATE:

I was finally able to get the firmware rolled back! 

I am using an iConnectivity MIO MIDI adapter. I uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled using the latest from their website. BINGO!  I am now back to v1.0 and I have my tones back from my Helix.  :lol:

Hahahah, I knew something was wrong, lol.

I have had my DT25HD for almost a year and never saw the need to update the firmware. I just got a Helix and was surprised when I connected the two via L6link that I could still change my amp model when everyone else said they could not. 

Well the other day I decided to update the firmware on the DT and after doing so I lost the ability to change amp models. I tried to rollback the firmware to v1.0 but it fails every tie. Has anybody been successful doing a rollback? If I can't do a rollback then can anyone tell me what the default amp model would be for voicing IV, Class A/B, Pentode? I have all my Helix tones set to work with whatever that default was.

Thanks 

Your saying you can't roll back your DT's firmware? I would say somethings wrong and you should be able to go back if you want to. Any success after you created this thread?

Yes, but the midi devices are the DT and the HD500. You will be able to record all midi commands and messages that these two devices support. To my knowledge, this excludes the note on/off commands which neither of these devices support to the best of my knowledge. You can't mimic playing a keyboard using these devices. It's those specific commands that are in question here.

Thanks for the clarification silverhead. That's why I put "FWIW" at the beginning of my post. I'm not really proficient with MIDI, mainly I play around with it every now and then and learn a little more each time, lol.

The only keyboard I've got is the KB37 Studio (Ableton Live Lite 8) and if I want to mix that in I would plug analog L & R 1/4" outs into a BeatBuddy (stereo) which is plugged into the FX Loop (stereo) of the HD500, then out of the Pods L & R 1/4" one of which will go into the FX Return a DT50HD and the other into a Peavey VKII 20 mini. So I guess the only "note on/off" that's going on is in my computer, lol.

FWIW, I can connect an iPad (old one) with MIDI Memo app and record midi sent through HD500 and DT50. I plug the MIDI Mobilizer midi in to the DT's midi out and the midi out to the HD500's midi in and connect the HD500's midi out to the DT's midi in. When I hit record on the iPad, any moves I make on either device is sent through and back to the iPad and recorded. I know it's not the preferred method of MIDI implementation but it has it's uses for me. If I orchestrate myself properly/successfully I can playback the midi that's been recorded and just play. Obviously this has it's limitations but is usable for some stuff. Very interesting this MIDI.

I'm not tethered to a laptop or desktop.

Just wanted to keep this thread updated. The service center just informed me it is a bad power transformer and its being replaced. 

Have any idea why the transformer went?

Just received a new DT25 112 Combo amp and having issues. 

 

There's a very high/noticeable amount of electrical noise using this amp in ANY setting (any dial...i.e. drive, presence, volume, master, class A/AB, pentode/Triode, etc).  The electrical noise only quiets down when you reduce the volume to too low a volume. 

 

Already at 10 o'clock dial setting the noise is marked....and every setting in the recommended Voice plastic cutout sheet that came with the amp is noisey as hell.  Overdrive is a joke in noisiness.  Cleans should be silent and aren't.

 

Power cord is in a balanced electrical outlet and cables are shielded.

 

I've had tube amps before in same wall socket/cables and none were as electrically noisey as this unit. It's deal breaking annoying.

 

 

MY GUESS:

1.)  Bad tubes

2.)  Broken unit  (i.e. needs servicing)

 

 

Any advice?..

 

Maybe you should do a support ticket if it's new.

Yeah, sadly, hooking my POD into the FX loop for FX only might be my end use for this device as well.  Then again, maybe not.  Satriani says he's a pedal junkie, and I've gotta confess similar inclinations, so in the end some kind of muffling and compensation thereof could be what I continue to do.

 

I'm not aware of any way to defeat the L6 Link.  If memory serves, once you connect it your POD is in control.  However, I do recall having some kind of negative experience before I got the data cable.  could that be the problem?

I see nothing wrong with pedals or all analog and that's coming from someone who started to learn music using digital modeling, lol, If I was made of money I would most likely have an all analog rig, etc ,etc. The space I've got is limited and funds are even more limited ,lol. Actually had I had more money and room I would be building those analog tube amp kit by MojoTone and most ;likely pedals too.

I'm going to have to try one of my known good monster mic cables. The cable I normally use for L6, is a short 5' AES/EBU by Hosa which I thought was the one I needed for this. Personally I think something is wrong elsewhere and I don't think it's the Pod but I can't prove it so later I'll try one of my new mic cables, which I know work which I tried briefly before with success.

On the brighter side:

I didn't use a midi set up with the following, I could've but I kept it simple this time, lol, took 15 minutes to setup everything and a patch from scratch.

I set up a stereo amp patch with an FX Loop, inserted the BeatBuddy into the L & R FX Loop Returns and took the L & R 1/4" outs, ran one into the DT50 and the other into the Spider Jam and went to town jamming to the really good sounding BB drums. The drums sound "real" and it sound like they're in stereo. I set my patch up so the guitar was mixed with the drums by a pedal and the delay and mod rates controlled by another pedal. It was great private freestyle show, lol. Also had my KB37 run into the BB's L & R inputs.

So I A/B'd with my guitar going straight in the front of the amp against my HD500/L6 Link with an empty patch--pad set to normal, master volume at 100%--and my signal loss is still noticeable.  It's louder with the pad switch at normal, obviously, than when engaged (my previous test), but there's still a difference here.  Who'da thunk it?  the L6 Link and POD combo is a tone suck!  I wonder if the HD's muffling is responsible for all my difficulties in dialing in tones.  EQ would obviously help close the gap, but it'll never be EXACTLY the same tone.  To my ears, the HD/L6 Link is very much like putting a pedal in the signal chain (turned off, no true bypass).

 

Thanks to MIDI, I'm now able to compare my favorite amps from the HD500 to the DT's performance, and also have an alternative way to operate that I'm about to explore.  Better to have 2 great sounding amps than 512 so-so patches.  However, if I cut loose my HD but put in a stomp box, I've still got a tone suck unless I go buy something that has true bypass.

Thanks for your input. I just tried to use my L6 Link today and I couldn't get it to work at all, lol. I've previously updated both DT/HD successfully, I remember it was successful, and I always reset and recalibrate whenever I update the HD500. You should've seen my face when It didn't work, lol. I even checked MIDI Channel settings, looked good, and as far as I know unless I changed that setting it should work for sure especially with one DT. I'll have try it again later maybe I did something wrong but I don't really think so. I remember long ago before I had to send it back that when I had everything powered up and I plugged in the L6 Link I could tell intstantly that it was connected. I forget exactly what happened but I think because I had a patch on I could hear the settings getting changed in the DT.

So I fooled around with some patches using Studio Direct into the DT's FX Return. Not too bad but nothing like going into the front with my guitar and using the EHX Tube EQ in the FX Loop. I think I'm going to try to put the Pod into the FX Loop just for Mod/Delay just to hear how that works.

Ah, that's an old thread ya got there!  (I was wondering if it was one I posted on back in the day, but didn't have time to read all those pages)  As I was skimming it I did find a possible explanation for my muffle--the pad switch.  I've always had that engaged, which would bring down the volume.  I will do my A/B testing tonight with the pad disengaged and report my findings.

 

There are SO many settings on the hd500 that I now think i've forgotten more than most people know about this device.

I hear Ya on the PAD! I rarely use it. Recently I've been having a blast with just the HD500 and putting a BeatBuddy in the Pods FX Loop and recording it into RiffWorks. I think I'm actually starting to understand the FX Loop much better by using it this way. Also, I'm realizing that a little noise with the high gain patches means nothing when mixed with the drums this way. Should be obvious but not always, lol.

Anyway good luck on your A/B test.

I actually am gonna buy the xotic ep booster, it sounds so awesome ! My question was where do I put it to work with the pod hd500x and enhance the sound?

Try putting it in the FX Loop and then in front of a Mod and/or Delay, after the mixer. I use the built in "Boost Comp" like that all the time. Of course you usually have to make adjustments such as turn the drive down and the output up. Also the FX Loop adjustments might need tweaking. I've also used it before the amp after a distortion pedal before too. Just depends on how it sounds, lol, if it sounds like crap you have to try something else.

I honestly didn't find any issues using L6 link.  Until Helix I never had any cause to use midi other than to update or with DT Edit.  I have since sold my HD500 so can't check anything anymore.

There were more than a few people saying the same thing about the "L6 Muffle". When I plugged my guitar in the front of my DT50 and started using DT Edit to try out the models the difference to the people around me was evident. I never trust my own ears completely. I always ask someone else what they think before going forward. With sound there are many variables, just the room/venue your in can make a big difference on the final product.

The DT all by itself is a great sounding tool. I find myself using my HD500 all by itself recording via USB more these days.

when I click audio setup button it says riffworks is using the systems default audio device and the are no options. no dropdown box. I'm thinking riffworks is not seeing my TT as an option. don't know why.

Thanks

Sounds like your right. Maybe you could try to reinstall RiffWorks now that you have the Line 6 driver installed. Did you check Line 6 Monkey to see if your up to date?

one thing i'm hearing is that my hd500, even through the l6 link, is muffling my tone.  i'm quite surprised.  

 

using channel b, if i plug straight in i get a bright lively tone (dialed in, natch).  then if i turn on my hd500 with an empty patch open, the dt defaults to channel b, but the tone is muffled, even using the same cord.  (and before you ask, yes, i've got the pod master at 100%)

 

i wouldn't have expected this.  i would have expected that line 6 would have made the dt and the hd so that you can't tell them apart--after all, it's the exact same preamp processors and models etc.  

 

i guess it's like the difference between true bypass and the "other" circuit.  makes me wonder if both units really have the same circuits and software.  i'm now trying to get my computer to update drivers so i can update my pod so i can utilize the global eq so i can compare the eq'd l6 link sound to the natural sound of the amp.  if i can't eq out the signal loss to the point of fooling my ears, then maybe i'll look at using MIDI rather than my pod.

 

have either of you noticed this signal loss in your pods?

When I used the L6 Link I noticed the same thing. This why I went into the front of the amp with my guitar and used the Pod for MIDI. Another way I liked was to run the Pod into the FX Return which sounded good. I didn't spend a lot of time fiddling with the L6 Link since the amp sounded better with the guitar into the preamp of the DT. Controlling the DT with the Pod via MIDI was a better option for me. I remember others having the same difficulty. Keep in mind this is just my experience.

You can check this out > http://line6.com/supportarchivenew/thread/74045/

I recently purcase Sonoma Wireworks Riffworks standard. I have an amplifi TT and windows 10. I plugged in the TT and windows installed the driver. when I click audio setup in riffworks the tt does not show up. whay am I diong wrong?

thanks

Did you plug in you plug in your TT, and let it start, before you open RiffWorks? Also when you were in the RW settings did you cliick on the drop down box for the ASIO choices?

Brazzy, you don't recall offhand where the default amps (and possibly other settings) are listed, do you?  Or is this something DT Edit will tell me?

 

---edit---it looks like DT Edit will tell me, within limitations of the software.

Your on the right track.

I think if I wanted to find that I would do the "reset" and then open DT Edit on my computer and go through each channel to see what settings were used.

radatats has a good point about how the engineers have designed the DT's/ HD's. I suppose it just depends on how you need to use it.

Those Beyerdynamics are really nice. I use Bose AE Headphones a lot, they're like my beaters. I think the Ohmage on them is 32-35 or so. They work great for me. I also have 1 set of Beyers 990 open back in the high ohm range and like them too. I even use the "Ear Candy" ear plugs sometimes, man those sound great too, lol. It's amazing how far headphones and ear plugs have come.
 
I was just "Fun Playing" using the Bose AE's. Here's the results

So are you saying that I can basically install 8 amps, 2 of each voice but otherwise however I like them, into my DT and then select those amps via the switches on the front panel (or A/B footswitch)?  

Yes. Talking about this stuff can get confusing so get the Line 6 info out and read and then start trying it out.

You can program the DT with the Pod or the computer (DT edit) the way you want with 2 different channels, 4 different amps per channel with different topos. You can use any of the Pod's FS's to change Channel A/B.

After your done programming you can disconnect the pod and/or the computer and the settings are done. Once you make a change the DT remembers it, no saving required. If you want to start over just hook it back up, make changes and disconnect if you want to or you can set the patches to use the FS's to control the midi commands.

I've used the Pod to just control midi and used the Foot Pedal to control the Reverbs. When I did that I went into the preamp of the DT with the guitar and the only thing the Pod was used for was changing midi with FS's and Reverb with the Foot Pedal. Works great for certain things.

I've also went into the Pod with the guitar and set up a midi patch for midi changes and set up a Wah with the Foot Pedal. I forget exactly what I did and how it worked but I did it, lol. I think I came out of the Pod with the L mono, went into the Dt's preamp and used "Stack Front" in the pods output settings. Sometimes you just have to try things to see what works and what doesn't and remember to take note of what you did so you don't forget.

How'z it go'in "m". This is always a good topic for the DT's since midi can offer some really cool abilities, it's just getting it all streamlined so that your A.C.T. (All Comes Together) runs smoothly.

I've been toying with the MIDI Memo recorder (iPad) and the DT50 and am able to record my moves from the DT, DT Edit and the HD500 while all of them are hooked up at the same time. After I record my moves when I hit play with the Midi Memo (iPad) it starts to repeat any moves (tweaks) and I better start my act (playing), lol. If ya know what I mean. I can pause it though :). I find it fun and can end up with some cool tone curves from the tweaks depending on how fast/slow I tweak it.

Sometimes I'll just plug midi out from my HD500 to DT50 midi in and set up midi patches, as per the MIDI Implementation Guide Line 6 has available. I go right into the front (preamp) of the DT with the guitar. If I want to I can go midi in to the Pod with iPad midi memo recording I previously had and it will send that to the DT through the Pod. I'll say Midi has a lot to offer, it's just tapping into it so that your comfortable, practice, practice and have fun doing it.

I usually always set up my patches using the same topology so I don't the pop issue when changing patches, lol.

While I have fun with it in the personal setting I would need to really practice an act to feel confident and it is possible. There are a bunch of different ways to control midi though, options are out there.

Since my experience is limited I'm always interested in other peoples experiences.

Links:

http://line6.com/media/dt50/DT_MIDIGuide_v2_0_RevA_English.pdf

http://line6.com/support/page/kb/_/amplifiers/dt50dt25/using-midi-to-change-amp-settings-on-the-dt50d-r129

 

For example, on the DT50 amplifiers, sending MIDI CC# 11 with a value of 0-30 will change the assigned HD amp model set to any one of the voicings on Channel A of the DT50.

So, if you want to change Voicing I of Channel A on the DT50 amp from the original Fender Blackface to be a Hiway 100 amp model instead, do the following:

• On any preset (blank or not) on the POD, go to the POD's MIDI Assign screen by holding the MOVE button for a few seconds. We suggest doing this on a blank new preset so that you can use this preset to send these MIDI messages to your DT amplifier.
• Let's assign Footswitch 1 (FS1) to send MIDI CC# 11 with a value of 003.
• Press on FS1 so that the arrow is pointing to it in the POD's screen. Turn Knob 1 to select MIDI CH: Base.
• Turn Knob 2 to select Message: CC.
• Turn Knob 3 to select CC# 011.
• Turn Knob 4 to select Value: 003.
• You can exit the MIDI Assign screen by pressing the View button once.
• Now, by simply pressing the FS1 footswitch, you will be sending MIDI CC# 11 value 003 to the DT50 amp which will change the Voicing I of Channel A on the DT50 amp from the original Fender Blackface to be a Hiway 100 amp model.
• Press the Save button once, rename the preset with the knobs below the screen, then press the Save button once again to store these settings to the POD's preset.

MIDI CC#11 value 0-30 will change the HD amp model on Channel A of the selected voicing on the DT25/DT50 amp.

MIDI CC#12 value 0-30 will change the HD amp model on Channel B of the selected voicing on the DT25/DT50 amp.

Looks like RiffWorld and RiffWorks are getting a makeover/updated. At least that's what it looks like. I hope so, that would be great. Keep it going Sonoma Wire Works!

This is what I read when I tried to access RiffWorld: