rudomat Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 fractal audio really took the problems with hum and ground loops using the 4CM very serious when they developed fx8...? they´re offering what they call humbuster outputs etc...all i´ve heard in these regards from the helix up to now is "it´s working great in 4CM"...sorry, but that´s been said about many products... something like this noise test would be very interesting f.e....;-) https://soundcloud.com/fractalaudio/fx8-noise-test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron55 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Huimbuster! LOL You mean cables with the shield (ground) disconnected at one end. That will stop all ground loops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudomat Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Humbuster! LOL You mean cables with the shield (ground) disconnected at one end. That will stop all ground loops. you mean what fractal audio sells as their revolutionary invention will work with any output jacks...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew_tnbd Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 you mean what fractal audio sells as their revolutionary invention will work with any output jacks...? Yes. It's a very common type of cable in studio situations, and will work with all TRS jack sockets. The humbuster technology is just a buzzword invented to get people to part with their hard-earned cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblinman Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 This is used daily in industrial process instrumentation. I do this on a daily basis. Such a ridiculous way to cash in on ignorance. Maybe Fractal clipped the shield with premium-grade wire cutters, unlike the cheap Chinese cutters used by the competition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudomat Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 you mean what fractal audio sells as their revolutionary invention will work with any output jacks...? so the only question is - are these stereo output jacks on the helix...??? i´m doing hard to believe the only thing that fractal offers here are stereo jacks...i mean they shure applied for a patent, isn´t it...? just with a stereo jack...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew_tnbd Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You don't need stereo jacks for this functionality. You just need a specific type of cable that is wired in a certain way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudomat Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 You don't need stereo jacks for this functionality. You just need a specific type of cable that is wired in a certain way. i know what a humbuster cable is...but you said, it needs a TRS jack socket to work...so tip-ring sleeve, as i said - stereo jack..as the humbuster cable is inserted f.e. between an output jack and an amp input jack - i guess the TRS jack won´t be the amp input, but the helix´s (f.e.) output jack...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekc Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/49249-wicked-wiki-7-balanced-connections-humbuster.html HumBuster cables HumBuster cables fight ground loops and reduce noise on specific Fractal Audio products. The TRS end ("stereo") goes into the Fractal Audio device, the TS end ("mono") goes into the other equipment. Don't pull out the HumBuster cable halfway! Cliff: "If you pull the cable out halfway it will get twice as loud. This is due to the humbuster output design. Don't pull the cable out halfway." source Cliff's comments: "The Humbuster outputs sense the ground noise at the far end of the cable and cancel it out. Remember there is no such thing as a wire with zero impedance." source "The 1/4" outputs have a "remote ground sense" feature. You take a TRS cable and on one end you put a TRS plug and on the other end you put a regular TS plug. On the TS end you tie the ring conductor to ground. Plug the TRS end into the Axe-Fx II. The ground noise of the attached equipment is sensed and added to the output signal thereby cancelling the common-mode noise (hum). This is especially useful when doing the 4CM since that's when you usually get the worst ground loops." "Won't do anything for pickup hum. It just fights ground loops." source FX8: HumBuster cables can be used with all outputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblinman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/49249-wicked-wiki-7-balanced-connections-humbuster.html Yep. He's a hell of a salesman. Like he invented this. I'm sure the guys that buy his stuff consider it gospel, but the more of his posts I read the less I like the guy. It's a great idea for audio equipment, but don't pretend it's your invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose7822 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Yep. He's a hell of a salesman. Like he invented this. I'm sure the guys that buy his stuff consider it gospel, but the more of his posts I read the less I like the guy. It's a great idea for audio equipment, but don't pretend it's your invention. You're not kidding. Some people, not all, over at the FAS forum think of him as "god". They have some kind of cult over there, which is partly why I have lost interest in his products (actually, its mostly due to his arrogance and demeanor towards his competitors). I don't care how good his products are, if you don't behave like a decent human being, you won't get my money PERIOD! Thankfully, there are other products of the same, if not better, quality as his out there. The Kemper and Helix being on the top of my list. Gotta love the times we live in :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allennobles Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Not trying to stir this topic up again, but I don't see where it was actually stated that this type of cable would be beneficial or not for use with Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fukuri Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Its a simple question Are the output jacks on the Helix TRS or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolko60 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Yes, TRS, impedance balanced. I wonder if "Humbuster" and "impedance balanced" are the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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