Problem with volume pedal.

[palace0001]

Just need a bit of help. I have created a patch and I always put the volume pedal at the end to be used as just a master volume. This works fine but I have noticed on clean sounds when it is turned down a bit the chorus delay and reverb cut out. I have to have it full to get the full effects.

Is there any way to have it just as a master volume without effecting effects.

I know if it is before the amp it affects the gain, this is why I have it at the end of the chain.

 

Cheers.

[JLondon]

Simply put your volume pedal before the mods, such as delay/reverb, but after the amp/cabs/and gain pedals.  Make sure "trails" is "on" for delay/reverb.  This way the volume acts as a master volume but allows the mods to trail off.  This is true for all tiypes of pedal boards.

[Digital_Igloo]

The Volume block is at the end of a serial path? Or if it's parallel, is it after the Merge block? It should affect the whole path if it's at the end.

 

Or if you want the reverb and delay to not be affected at all by the Volume block, you'd want to place it to the left of them.

[Joepeggio]

Simply put your volume pedal before the mods, such as delay/reverb, but after the amp/cabs/and gain pedals. Make sure "trails" is "on" for delay/reverb. This way the volume acts as a master volume but allows the mods to trail off. This is true for all tiypes of pedal boards.

I agree mostly with this. I put my vol pedal usually just after the amp sim before any delay or verb. I usually put it before the speaker sim because i usually use dual cabs but can still use a mono volume.

 

even though i have the trails on on my delays and verbs, "trails" only effects when turning off the effect itself, i doesnt matter for the volume block location. I hate to disagree or argue about issues, Just want to avoid confusion of what the "trails" function does.

[palace0001]

hi i have tried this but the chorus still goes flat.  i have found that changing it to liniar on the volume i can get to about 40% before it cuts out.

on my old boss gt8 it could be on bare mimimus annd you would still hee all the effects.

[rwhite137]

Could you post a picture of your preset?

[isdirg1]

Have you thought of controlling your amp volume knob awith the expression pedal?

[PeterHamm]

Have you thought of controlling your amp volume knob awith the expression pedal?

This is a GREAT solution. I used to do this on HD 500. I don't do it on Helix because I never run out of blocks.

[BigRalphN]

Am I the only one that uses volume pedals first in the chain? I have been doing this since my sound days going back to high school and college in the late 70s and early 89s.

[PeterHamm]

Am I the only one that uses volume pedals first in the chain? I have been doing this since my sound days going back to high school and college in the late 70s and early 89s.

 

I used to do that, but found that I generally like volume control to NOT affect amp/distortion pedal gain. I use my guitar volume control for that.

[glideman]

I'm with @PeterHamm on this one!

[HonestOpinion]

Simply put your volume pedal before the mods, such as delay/reverb, but after the amp/cabs/and gain pedals.  Make sure "trails" is "on" for delay/reverb.  This way the volume acts as a master volume but allows the mods to trail off.  This is true for all tiypes of pedal boards.

 

 

Am I the only one that uses volume pedals first in the chain? I have been doing this since my sound days going back to high school and college in the late 70s and early 89s.

 

 

I used to do that, but found that I generally like volume control to NOT affect amp/distortion pedal gain. I use my guitar volume control for that.

 

BigRalphN, like you, I used to put my volume pedal at the beginning of the chain on my old analog pedal boards but only due to physics and space limitations. It was generally the easiest spot on the board to set it up. Sometimes I would place it at the beginning of the chain but wire it further down the line. Always a pain and confusing if there was a problem with a pedal or cable during a gig. Also, turning up or down the volume pedal in this setup would always impact the tone and operation of every effect down the line.

 

With MFX I set up the volume block right before any blocks that add a delayed signal such as chorus, delay, and reverb. It is easy to forget that mod effects such as the chorus use a delay so they should be after the volume block. That way, not only does the volume pedal not impact the, for instance, amount of grit and tone of the distortion (by being placed after it), but the volume operation also does not impact the volume of the delayed signal of my mod/delay/reverb effects (volume block placed before these). Whatever the volume of the last note I played before adjusting the volume pedal is, determines the volume of the delayed signal on those blocks(as further determined by where you set the "Mix" parameter of the block that contains a delay). That way you do not unnaturally cut off the last bit of delayed signal from your chorus, delay, or reverb.