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  1. A) Yes, you must be doing something wrong. Mine is Awesome! B) As pointed out previously, you need to update. C) You have to re-adjust your previously created presets to sound right with the PC+. Otherwise the stock cabs are absolutely going to sound very nasal/boxy and uninteresting. Especially experiment with the high/low cut speaker settings. That said, I've come to prefer a particular IR pretty much across the board and I like it to be on the PC+ rather than in the Helix chain so that other Helix effects don't have any affect on the cab itself - just like in an analog setup. I think my 'full-circle" return to the IR is the result of having gotten used to the sound of the new tech. I don't even care for my old 'real' cabs anymore and I can even make the stock PC+ cabs sound better. My traditional analog cabs sound nasal and boxy to me now in a 'studio'/bedroom setting but that certainly could totally change however if playing live in a mix. If you want proof that the new tech can be made to sound the same (in a 'solo room' environment) - or better , create a preset where you are using (correctly) the PC+ on one channel - and 4 CM to what you 'thought' you liked in a traditional amp/cab setup and compare (this is actually an excellent method to duplicate your various analog amp/cab tones - however, if you're using Helix "Edit" and a computer to do this you probably will have to take steps to overcome ground-loop noise issues that almost always occur when running an analog poweramp to a 'computer' via the Helix USB connection - but that's not the PC+'s fault). I personally don't know how Helix/PC+ holds up for a Djent/Heavy Metal type style of play. But for everything else, I can get a better sound, dynamics, and string attack sensitivity on the Helix/PC+ every time. D) I highly recommend you watch the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6XKaYoNGDg and change your Helix Globals so that you are running unity gain (big volume knob on Helix no longer has any effect on volume going to PC+) when re-adjusting your presets.
  2. JLondon

    Power Cabs?

    If you can afford 2 PC+ by all means do it - do not pass go. 'OR' a couple of Line 6 Stagesource speakers will do the same thing. I would say it depends upon the style of music you play. I have a single PC+112 and two of the bigger Stagesource speakers (one of those with the on-board mixer option for playing out and keeping it REAL simple). I like TX Blues, Gilmour, and basic edge of break-up tones for which the PC+112 is amazing. I don't play the real hard stuff, but I would think the Stagesource speakers or a pair of the 212 PC+ would be better for that. That aside, I've recently revisited messing around between various cabling into a tube amp that I kinda miss. I absolutely don't think it's worth it. I was a photographer when digital was finally able to be a real substitute for film and what a struggle it was for the purists, and myself, to admit it. I honestly think the current amp and effect mod tech has finally reached that point as well. Especially with the advent of the PC+. It has a learning curve of it's own but it's all in there.
  3. Very interesting question.Yeah, what rd2rk said would be the simplest way of going about it if you were able to somehow split between two discreet paths. I also see a more sordid/complicated method of possibly assigning multiple effects to the expression pedal - but not using the two presets you showed specifically. All that aside, the first question that pops into my mind is that - if you COULD do what your asking with these two specific presets, would the mix in between even produce a sound that's desirable? One can't automatically assume that it would and without doing it I suppose you'll never know. I'm not sure what DSP allows in this case, but if you could simply move the last reverb from each preset (the one's in the lower signal paths) to it's upper signal path respectively, and then create a new preset with the clean in the upper path and the Dist in the lower, then you could assign the expression to blend between the two. But you may have to sacrifice at least one effect block from the upper signal paths of each preset in order to do it (due to DSP limitations). Lastly, with the last update, there's a lot of new possibilities using the "command center". Someone else might be able to shed light on that as I haven't had time to explore as much as I'd like. But I think you can now assign a foot-switch to automatically change back and forth between two presets so maybe instead of assigning this to a foot-switch it could be assigned to the expression pedal. I don't know.
  4. There's no right or wrong answer here because I'm not having a "technical" problem. I'm just having trouble making up my mind. I simply would like to hear discussion from others what options they are using in the global settings for the snapshot/stomp modes/8or10 switch number, and "WHY/HOW" using it that way suits your own purpose/needs. Especially interested in how the latest Command Center update factors in to those choices if you are, in fact, making use of it. What about those who use the "looper" - does that have an effect on your global setting preferences? Unless somebody has already done a good, and broad, YouTube video on this subject - I really think this could be a head-slapping "could-a had a V8" thread for a LOT of people! If there's already been multiple threads on this kindly direct me to one of them - thanks in advance!
  5. 2.91 !!! There is no perfect version to choose from. Start with the latest and be conservative from that point if you want.
  6. Here's a great pdf file of all the amps/mods/effects in the Helix with current update. You will see which have duplicates. http://www.robyrocks.it/articles/helixmodels/helixmodels.html
  7. I'm completely aware of where the Legacy effects came from. What I want to know is what is the difference that would justify including mods that were already in the Helix.
  8. So what's the difference between the duplicated effects that are included in both Legacy and Mono/Stereo sub-menus? I appreciate 'additional' effects, but If there's NOT a difference in the duplicates - why are they there twice?
  9. Thanks for this. Not only is it current but it's the absolute best version/example I've seen.
  10. My first thought is that you should check your global settings and make sure that the volume knob is set to the output you are using (XLR, 1/4, or whatever). Just set the volume knob to "Multi" and it should fix it unless you have a more serious problem. For instance, if the global setting for the Vol knob is set to XLR or Digital, but you're using the 1/4 output jack, your speakers are going to get 100% volume (line signal) regardless of where the knob is turned.
  11. I like to "see" them too! Unfortunately, that's never going to happen until they find a way to get them on HX Edit as well. I would trade that update for all the amps/pedals they could possibly come up with in the future combined. The metering is a great idea and what Line6 did certainly doesn't hurt anything or anybody, but it's still useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle otherwise unless you LIKE getting down on your hands and knees to edit your presets. Personally I'll reserve that position for prayer that Line6 will find a way to get them on the Editor! It's way above my pay grade, but it SEEMS completely doable since they were able to include live input/output metering in Native.
  12. My noise is coming from the USB to computer connection. Want to use USB connection so I can use Helix Edit but 4CM into my amp is impossible if connected to computer. Perfect otherwise. So I'm thinking that the Ebtech won't do me any good. I'm even able to create snapshots switching between a 4CM connection to amp AND L6 LINK to a Powercab plus with no noise. But plug in USB to computer and it's all over. Very frustrating!
  13. Depending upon the style music you play and if you're still wanting to 'play out occasionally', I say get a Line 6 Powercab Plus and don't look back. I don't play super heavy and more radical types of Metal - but I would think no form of speaker or cab other than a 4x12 would be suitable for that anyway. But for everything else - Powercab! That said, after reading this thread, I'm looking forward to trying my Helix through the effects loop of my own Mesa V-25 and traditional speaker cabs. I've been selling all my amp heads but recently decided to keep the Mesa due to it's on-board speaker load box/sim and it's capabilities with my DAW and Helix NATIVE plugin.
  14. JLondon

    Dirty Shirley IR

    Thanks. I've since found the Bonkers site myself and also a version made by 3Sigma Audio that I couldn't find before. Bought the Sigma pac and it's very good but not the same. Going to try Bonkers next I guess - or see if I can find some sort ofconversion software. The actual IR name shows up on Helix as "Dirty Shirley TM"
  15. JLondon

    Dirty Shirley IR

    My absolute favorite IR for Hendrix, Texas blues, edge of break-up, style play is called the Dirty Shirley. BUT! I'm unorganized and have absolutely no idea where or how I got possession of it. I also don't remember what speaker it is supposed to be emulating. Google's not helping. Does anybody happen to know who made/distributed this IR? I'm wanting to research it and also wanting to see if they offer other versions of it as it is one of those that is Helix friendly but not Powercab friendly. I reeeeealy want to install this on my Powercab. Anybody know how to convert? Can I?
  16. Oh my goodness! A single answer to your last questions is that If both the Powercab 212 and the Helix are in your budget - buy and don't look back. The only other FRFR option I would even consider (if budget friendly) is the Mission Engineering Gemini line. Still favor Powercab and it's "cab in the room" sound without even counting the fact that it also communicates with Helix via L6 LINK and cable. There will be a learning curve so I wouldn't sell my analog equipment until you're more comfortable with the new tech. But once you get over the learning hump, you'll be flabbergasted at how cheap the new equipment really is compared to the money you've spent in the past. The only exception to this comment would maybe be if you played a lot of really heavy/chunky metal that pretty much requires a 4X12 cab. You also still have to consider (just like with your existing equip.) the difference between how things sound at home or studio and different size venues. That doesn't change. Question 1) - Yes you absolutely can get lost but only if you choose to allow it. Hopefully you're not A.D.D. The Helix Floor (which is what I think you should consider) is a Swiss Army Knife but it's also the simplest tech user interface out there of its kind. Make it easy on yourself, forget about routing a bunch of your 'hard to part with' pedals through it (with the exception of an extra expression pedal). Also, I would recommend ignoring the millions of IR's out there unless you're already familiar and have a favorite. But basically, just attempt to recreate the system you already use along with what you've wished for in the past but didn't have room on the board. Question 2) - Absolutely not but you obviously will have room to grow for future needs. Question 3) - Completely depends upon how well you take my advice to question 1 and how disciplined you are and how focused you remain. Start by simply sticking with recreating your current setup. Create a template preset resembling your current board. Then make 40 presets based on your song list order by copy and pasting the template and adjusting as needed. Each song preset can have its own "snapshots for going back and forth between gain and mod settings as needed (intro/verse/chorus/mods/etc). Once you've watched a couple YouTube vids and learned basic user interface it shouldn't take long at all. Most everybody has done this and already has a pretty good concept of the basics before even purchasing. Only after I achieved your initial goal would I start goofing around with the other possibilities the Helix/Powercab offers. Good Luck to you!
  17. I sincerely apologize for this comment - but I just can't help myself. I gotta say that this wins the Olympic Gold Medal for the weirdest question I've ever read on the Line 6 Forum.
  18. I apologize that I evidently misunderstood your OP and went to such great lengths to 'preach to the choir', so to speak. That said, I'm still totally confused as to what you mean when you say " Not having any problems switching things on the PC+ from the Helix" while then going on to say " but to leave out the ability to change presets on the PC+". My thinking is that they are one and the same - are they not? This is the root of my misunderstanding and incorrect lengthy attempt to be helpful (grin). Using, perhaps, different terminology than used previously - what exactly is it you are referring to that you can't change on the PC+ from the Helix? I'm not aware of a single PC+ setting that I can't adjust directly from the Helix. Again I'm in total agreement about the inconvenience of the PC+ IR names not being visible on the Helix.
  19. I'll start by stating/assuming the obvious that A)you have both the Helix and PC+ turned on when trying to edit your preset and B) you have the 'output' block selected/highlighted on the Helix chain (circled arrow out) and then the Powercab tab selected when looking at your Edit program (I assume its the same on the physical unit as well, I've never tried). With that out of the way, then yes, it's a bummer that just the number of the IR shows up. Very confusing and inconvenient (outside the fact that "Helix" and "inconvenient" is really an oxymoron). However, if you have the L6 LINK system connected correctly with a correct/compatible cable you absolutely can switch PC+ presets via the Helix. Trouble is that by default, the change doesn't physically show up on the PC+ menu strip - but it IS changing. As I've had it explained to me, if you open the PC+ App on your computer, you can see the change happen within the app when you change your setting in the Helix (or Edit). That said you should also be able to 'hear' the difference - but if your just exploring the system without actual play (like I was) it can fool you. I think someone posted elsewhere on how you can make the PC+ scribble strip physically show changes on the fly, but I've never felt the need once I realized everything was working. I THINK you have to create a different Helix 'preset' for every PC+ preset you want. I've not yet tried creating multiple/footswitchable PC+ scenes within the 'same' Helix preset via snapshot mode. 'Might' be possible - I don't know. But the two units definitely communicate and switch via L6LINK otherwise. P.S. An alternative to making an IR list on paper, The IR "names" do show up on the PC+ app if you want to keep it open when constructing presets. Just know that, when switching IRs in the 'PC+App', you have to "choose" your IR from the dropdown menu on the 'right' - NOT from the column on the left. If I understand correctly - 2x clicking on the left column will 'change attributes' you may have made to a particular IR previously (like treble/bass cut etc.) and you will get a warning message. The dropdown on the right simply (and correctly) 'selects' and applies a desired IR. My advice is to keep both Edit and PC+ App open while you work/edit until you are comfortable and realize that Helix/Edit will suffice for most everything.
  20. I have the Helix Floor and not the LT so this may be applicable and it may not - I don't know. But with the Helix Floor and Rack versions, the "Global" EQ is disabled when using the "LINK" socket/connection. It's a long shot, but if you normally use Global EQ you may have unknowingly been boosting your signal and now LINK is disabling that leaving your preset without enough signal to clip the Powercab. Hence an adjustment to your individual presets would be in order. Also, I'm assuming that you previously adjusted the clip levels manually using the menu/knobs on the Powercab since you just started using the LINK connection. Are you still doing this physically at the Powercab? I'm assuming you're not since the only purpose for a "LINK" connection (or a Link cable) us to make adjustments via USB and the Helix app on a computer. If you are, then that may (may not) be the problem. It's possible (I haven't tried it) that the LINK disables some manual adjustments on the Powercab. Lastly, and I hate to say it, double check your connections to make sure you're LINK to LINK. I hate to say it, but I've been embarrassed on more than one occasion when learning that I had routed my signal from the LINK connection on the Helix to an XLR connection on the PC+ or visa-versa.
  21. I just don't get these kinds of comparison videos. While my two favorite examples turned out to be the Spider and Helix, I didn't hear any differences, or even dynamic playing capability, that couldn't be remedied by a simple tweak of a knob - on ANY of the units. This has pretty much been true of any pedal/amp, analog or solid state, that I've ever seen. I also have no clue as to their method/attempt at achieving apples to apples between the different units, let alone the 3 to the 1. So in reality, aren't we just listening to a comparison between manual "adjustments" and not tone capabilities of various equipment? What I will suggest we can take away from this vid and the many others out there, is that the profiling tech has indeed finally come into its own just like the painful transition between film and digital photography - and like the latter proved to have been, the profiling is just getting started.
  22. Thanks so much - your reply is still very helpful, late or otherwise. I have a similar playing style/interest as yourself. I haven't tried the dual amp thing with the Helix. I'm curious to know which amp sim on the Helix you are using and how your are routing it in the Helix chain. I have also found, contrary to opinions/reviews I've read, that the "passive" cab sim on the Mesa is fantastic through both my DAW and now the PC+ (and I prefer "open" setting as well). It sure beats the 'on-board' cab that came with my "active" Two Notes Torpedo Captor - however, since posting this thread, I've tried running my Mesa through the Captor via traditional speaker cable and sending just a dry signal to the PC+ which allows me to use the PC+ cab sims or IRs (I'm a big fan of PC+ Vintage and Heritage). The latter is technically the absolute best sounding of my options, but adding another pc of hardware and cabling does complicate matters a bit and contrary to the purpose of my OP - and I do like simple (why I bought the Helix in the first place). But now that I'm on track with this mission (thanks to the help of everyone on this thread), I will start playing around with EQs as you mentioned. Thanks again!
  23. Well that was certainly easy enough. Thanks!
  24. Yeah, I'm just wanting to keep it simple. My Mesa does have a loop in the back, but I also have other amps that don't (for which I have a Torpedo Captor to handle speaker load and cab model). I've used 4CM with traditional pedal boards and amp loops but in this case my mods are to be more simple for just a slightly less dry signal - nothing crazy. I also have the option of running my Mesa straight into my DAW and using Native. I was just looking for an easier option or one that didn't require firing up the computer or "messy cabling". So can the Helix Floor be plugged directly into the front of an amp like the Helix Effects?
  25. Okay here's one for ya and is probably simpler than I'm trying to make it. WITHOUT using 4 cable method, how would you setup these 3 pcs together keeping in mind that the Mesa V-25 amp has it's own cab model (passive) IR and speaker load box option that sends out a "line" signal. With that in mind I'm thinking 4CM shouldn't be necessary and that I could simply put PC+ in Flat mode. In other words, I'm basically just wanting to use the Helix Floor like a Helix "Effects" into the Mesa into the PC+ in as close to 'series' as possible - and not have a ridiculous amount of cabling. I already know the Mesa sounds awesome straight into the PC+ so I'm just wanting to introduce the Helix Floor into the mix. Can the "Floor" be made to work like an "Effects"?
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