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Global EQ - where is it in the signal chain?


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I'm trying to figure out the best way to setup my rig.

I'm going to be using iPad/iPhone to bring some extra sounds into the mix through Helix on USB1/2

 

Does anyone know if the Global EQ will apply only to the guitar signals coming from a Path, or if it will also apply to what comes in on USB1/2??

 

I guess maybe I need to go check it out for myself ;)

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I don't know if Global EQ effects USB input - I've been running tracks through my USB for a while and it sounds OK, so I'd guess not.

But, Congratulations for saying the obvious! It's such an easy thing to test. Make dramatic EQ - and listen!

I'm regularly reading questions on this forum that are really simple to test to get your answer - be good if others took your lead.

Thanks!

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Global EQ is only applied to the XLR and 1/4" outs (you can choose to apply it to one or the other or both).

Yes indeed :) but is that before or after the USB 1/2 is added and sent out the 1/4in or XLR socket? Unfortunately it's too late for me to make noise now - so I will have to wait till tomorrow to test.

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Yes indeed :) but is that before or after the USB 1/2 is added and sent out the 1/4in or XLR socket? Unfortunately it's too late for me to make noise now - so I will have to wait till tomorrow to test.

 

It's after any of the digital outputs... It doesn't affect the USB audio, S/PDIF or AES/EBU / L6 Link connections.

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Finally done some testing :) Been so busy at work this week.

 

So as Phil says Global EQ is placed after the USB 1/2 digital send.  

But it is before the USB 1/2 digital return.

 

I guess this is where it might be most useful for most situations - so that you can play backing tracks or whatever from your iPhone on USB1/2 and the Global EQ won't affect the backing.. only the guitar signal.

 

However I am trying to use the USB1/2 as inputs and outputs to Loopy HD on my iPhone as a really simple way to connect the Looper...  the idea is basically that if you just connect your iOS device to the USB and turn on the Looper it will just magically work with any Helix preset that is set to Multi, as it send both to the USB 1/2 and also to the 1/4in and XLRs.

 

But with the Global EQ positioned where it is - it means that only my dry guitar gets effected by the Global EQ - not whatever is Looped.

 

DARN  :(

 

Yet another reason why I call for increased flexibly of the Send / Return block in Helix - so I could simply set up a USB Send/Return loop in my Helix presets

https://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/SEND-Block-to-more-places-e-g-1-4in-for-easy-IR-bypass/818624-23508

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  • 3 years later...

except you bought a 212+Powercab with l6-link-cable. Then you must waste precious DSP for one or two eq-blocks (if you work with parallel paths). Or buy two instrument cables and insert there a stereo-eq-pedal.

 

No, global eq for l6 is required, also PC-owners are humans.

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1 hour ago, DunedinDragon said:

I'm going to post an entry in IdeaScale.  Something to the effect of, "Can you please wire up the Helix so that if someone tries to use Global EQ for anything other than adjusting for the room they'll get a nasty shock every time they touch their guitar?"

 

Nah... too much potential liability. After all they didn't even trust us not to burn our houses down charging our G10's, they had to hobble the product instead...;)

 

The first time you boot up the Helix right out of the box it should just administer an IQ test. If you score within 10% of Forrest Gump, it bricks itself 'Mission Impossible' style... it'll be a huge time saver. ;)

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2 hours ago, DunedinDragon said:

I'm going to post an entry in IdeaScale.  Something to the effect of, "Can you please wire up the Helix so that if someone tries to use Global EQ for anything other than adjusting for the room they'll get a nasty shock every time they touch their guitar?"

I don't know if that was aimed at my comment, but i  and all people with the Powercab 212+ (or two PC112+) connected via L6 need it exactly for that: I use in the Powercab212+ the FRFR flat raw-setting for the Cabs in Helix and alas there's STILL no way to rapidly adjust the equipment to a room (or to ear-fatigue) and that's what the Global Eq is made for, i agree. I couldn't believe this is missing. I wanted then to put the idea on the board, but researched first if it is already existing, and yes. So please, all that think this idea has merit, go vote:

https://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Global-EQ-on-L6-Link/912758-23508  

 

 

...returning in my grave...

 

these livings, tss...

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