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Hi All,

 

I'm toying with the idea of getting a Powercab to go along with my helix. At present I'm running a pseudo two amp rig using a Tube amp into a traditional guitar cabinet and the helix modeled amp into a Headrush FRFR. It works fine although I'm not particularly pleased with the sounds from the Headrush. I was thinking of getting the Powercab 112 plus. I have a couple of questions though

 

a) Can I connect my Tube amp into the Powercab using a load box. Specifically Amp out --> Captor Load box --> Line out (dry) from the captor into the Powercab for use with some of the speaker sims? 

b) Would the Powercab be a significant upgrade from the Headrush if I were to use it alone with the Helix (especially given the difference in headroom).

 

Thanks

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I think yes to both questions. But check the impedance and output level of your load box to be sure it matches powercab input.

 

I've never used a Headrush FRFR but have lots of experience with JBL EON610s - I used two for a couple of years with Helix. PowerCab is a bit improvement as its designed for guitar, no PA vocals. PA speakers disperse differently and the JBLs were somewhat scooped in the mids, not a good thing for guitar.

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14 hours ago, amsdenj said:

I think yes to both questions. But check the impedance and output level of your load box to be sure it matches powercab input.

 

I've never used a Headrush FRFR but have lots of experience with JBL EON610s - I used two for a couple of years with Helix. PowerCab is a bit improvement as its designed for guitar, no PA vocals. PA speakers disperse differently and the JBLs were somewhat scooped in the mids, not a good thing for guitar.

 

Thanks amsdenj...I'm still contemplating the Powercab (it is just so expensive) :-)...

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I'm considering getting a Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister 40 that has a "Red Box Emulated DI out".  It allows you to send your signal directly to a mixer or PA, etc.  Couldn't I connect the amp to a PowerCab Plus by way of this Red Box DI? That way I would have access to tons of IR's.  I currently have a Helix now with two PowerCabs but the Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister is all tube with multiple channels, delay and modulation effects.  I'm considering it because the Helix really is way more than I need and I would like to simplify things.  I'm somewhat ignorant of these things.  Here is a link to info on the amp I'm looking at:  http://hughes-and-kettner.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/GrandmeisterEN_LowRes.pdf

 

Could I please have some input from you guys? 

Thanks in advance.  If this works, I'll have a Helix and a PowerCab Plus for sale :)

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Hi, I’ve used the PC 212 with my TM18 head. I connected the XLR / Redbox to the PC XLR 1, I set the PC212 to FRFR as the TM18 has emulated line out.

 

sounded really good but I did have to change the EQ significantly from using the H&K 1x12 cab 

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On 9/13/2019 at 12:34 PM, fenderbenderlax said:

 

Thanks amsdenj...I'm still contemplating the Powercab (it is just so expensive) :-)...

I've got an extra one 

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On 8/13/2020 at 6:19 PM, lperry65 said:

Hi, I’ve used the PC 212 with my TM18 head. I connected the XLR / Redbox to the PC XLR 1, I set the PC212 to FRFR as the TM18 has emulated line out.

 

sounded really good but I did have to change the EQ significantly from using the H&K 1x12 cab 

Using the Hughes and Kettner Grandmesiter 40 with the PowerCab Plus has been the same, but you can turn the emulation off and use the IR's in the PowerCab.  Sounds good but I wonder if I can just go speaker out (instead of the Red Box) from the amp to the PowerCab.  Thoughts?

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On 9/19/2020 at 7:18 PM, phowell said:

Using the Hughes and Kettner Grandmesiter 40 with the PowerCab Plus has been the same, but you can turn the emulation off and use the IR's in the PowerCab.  Sounds good but I wonder if I can just go speaker out (instead of the Red Box) from the amp to the PowerCab.  Thoughts?

 

You should be able to use the fx send, but as there is no load built into the PC you cannot use it like a cab ! 

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