Verne-Bunsen

And done. Thanks!

Where might I find that feature?

I generally divide the blocks in my patches between both paths. Generally I have front-of-amp effects and the amp(s) on path 1, which I then route down to the input of path two. Path two generally has cabs/IRs, reverbs and any other after-amp effects. Lots of room that way. For a "bigger/fuller" sound, I'll typically look at a second cab/IR in parallel with the first as opposed to running a second amp simultaneously.

I've been loving the LP + Litigator combo as well, fantastic! Of course the Litigator is great with just about everything, but still.... I'll say it again, that's one pretty guitar. Enjoy!

I suppose I hadn't considered the rise in popularity of those guitars from the perspective of diminishing the popularity of the "big" makers, namely Gibson and Fender. But I guess it stands to reason. No one dominates a market forever. Still a long way to go before those towers topple though :lol: Gibson's prices are definitely a point of consideration. When I bought my first Les Paul I owned two Telecasters; the Paul cost more than half-again what both of the Teles did combined! It is the Mercedes-Benz to the Tele's Jeep Wrangler though, no doubt. That is an interesting observation. I guess we tend to see things through our own filters, I love the vowel-y sounds of a Paul on both pickups! Especially a P90 Paul... Very different from Tele or Strat. But I mostly relish that tone when the signal is clean to "slightly broken up". As you say, when the gain goes up that sort of "character" starts to make things a bit indistinct. Sorry for the derailment, but thanks for the replies!

I'm asking these questions genuinely, not being snarky nor contrarian in the least: When did this happen? And by what metric has it been indicated?

She's gorgeous, congratulations! What amp(s) have you been enjoying playing her through?

It took the Fractal guys 5 pages. I think we'll do better than that. However the PodHD guys did it in just 2 pages which I don't believe we'll manage to match. I don't think he's hit the Kemper forum yet but I'm sure it's coming. Wonder if we'll end up doing better than them?

You've got to do what you think is right here, but give these threads a browse before you decide how much of your time you want to give to this guy. He may or may not be intentionally trolling, I don't know, but more than likely you are simply not going to get anywhere. Just a heads up. http://line6.com/support/topic/25138-can-i-please-ask-for-a-favour-from-pod-hd500x-owners/?do=findComment&comment=192570 https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/i-bet-you-cannot-match-this-tone.122475/

That video changed everything for me. It should be included on the thumbdrive when you buy the unit.

I can't claim to know anything about your playing style, but it's been my experience that, both with the real amp as well as the Helix model, the guitar's volume plays a big role. Try cranking the amp ("drive" in Helix) and rolling your guitar volume back a bit. Not saying you'll nail the '57 tone, but good things will probably happen :) Excellent point! Not the first union of EC and a Champ, he and Duane Allman played Champs all over "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs"! I admit I didn't take the Champ real seriously till I discovered that, changed my perspective a little bit...

I've bought a couple of the available commercial preset packages and, while none of them are loaded on my Helix currently, there is definitely some good stuff to be had. Really they're not all that expensive, so if you get a few hours of enjoyment out of them and learn a trick or two then it's still more productive and no less cost-effective than going to a movie. I found the Fremen presets are very polished, like studio album guitar tracks. Impressive tones and you could write a book on EQ from what you can learn by de-constructing them, but ultimately they were too polished for my tastes. Just not my thing. Except the Run Like Hell preset which blew my mind. I REALLY liked the Glen Delaune Boutique Amp Simulation package, they were great. Just sounded like snarling electric guitar. I only ever got the first set, evidently there is now a second collection featuring cleaner amps? There's not as much to learn from reverse engineering those because the magic is mostly in his IRs which he captures using stuff that most of us don't have ready access to, so there's that.

Saying the same thing lots of times is critical to any Police tone, so I think Marching to Pretoria would absolutely nail it. Not sure about Satan's Overdrive, but no polished tone is complete without one of these: If you can't get your hands on a genuine Andy Summers signature Warlock (I wish I had the Photoshop skills to provide a picture...), I've heard that a Telecaster with a humbucker in the neck position and an onboard pre-amp can get you pretty close. But that's just an old legend that school kids tell to scare each other...

For this tone I use my BC Rich Warlock into a split parallel path. The first path is empty, just raw pickup output, the second path is three Line 6 Fatality amps IN SERIES, no cab, and a 70s chorus. I used this patch and my friend Jon who really likes the Police was all like "woah I totally thought it was the record!!1!1!!" Sorry my usb cable is over at Jon's house so I can't record it.

Oh good, no puffin! I go back and forth on this myself. For the past several months I've been stock-cabs-only and I was getting tones that I really liked. Usually by running multiple cabs in parallel. I'm just right now starting to play with the IRs again. I've improved my ear and I know more about the sounds I like, so I am having more success with the IRs this time. I'm confident that I'll be able to get my tones with a single IR instead of multiple cabs. But I still don't knock the stock cabs, they are perfectly serviceable in my opinion. Interesting about the 4038. I liked it a lot on the stock cabs and employed it often, but when I auditioned IRs that used it I never found one I didn't hate. Weird...

Of course! Sneaky! That is a pretty high bar... I exchanged a couple of e-mails with Kevin at Ownhammer and he's working toward some new Fender releases, including his 1x8 Vibro Champ, just in case anyone is interested.

I remember when I got my first pitch pipe with ALL 6 NOTES! Such luxury! That was after years on a tuning fork. The Helix tuner is imperfect and I don't use it for setting intonation, but a little dose of perspective is occasionally a good thing :)

I keep re-watching that '57 Champ video and trying to figure out how it was mic'd, 'cause it sounds fantastic. It seems like I should be able to see the mic in the shot, am I missing it?

Yep, that's the stuff! Another "gold standard" Champ tone in my mind is James Gang's Funk 49. According to legend, it was just a Joe Walsh into a Tele into a Champ.

Definitely some winners in there. I'm enjoying the "Fender Tweed Champ" and "Fender Tweed Champ 58" IRs. The 1x10 Super Champ IRs seem to be a bust, such low output as to be non-functional, but there were Princeton and Pro Jr 1x10s that are worth exploring (if you're into such things... I am!) The real Champ has no tone controls, just volume. According to this really excellent assessment of how Helix's amp controls correlate to the real ones, the Helix tone controls should be set to noon to be neutral, and presence to 0. http://line6.com/support/topic/19961-helix-amp-model-gallery-real-controls-vs-invented/ However, I find the Champ model doesn't really sound very Champy like that. So I leave those parameters as they are set when the amp loads: Bass 3.3, Mid 6.0, Treble 6.8, Presence 3.5. These default parameters sound much more like a Champ to my ears. Master volume I leave at 10, like God intended. I find the drive at 4 delivers warm cleans that break up with just a little pick attack, but it gets a bit "flat" below that. Drive at 9 really cooks, while I find going past that just turns to mush. (I use this amp with my Strat and Teles and these settings are based on those single coil pickups. You could obviously expect humbuckers to push things a little harder) I have the drive and channel volume assigned to an expression pedal so that heel-down is drive 4, channel volume 10 and toe-down is drive 9, channel volume 8.9. That's a fun thing. I use the stock Helix 1x8 Small Tweed cab (haven't committed to one of those IRs just yet...) with a SM57 set back at 2". While it's not bad at lower drive settings, the Champ is quite fizzy at higher drive settings. I reign this in by also assigning the cab high and low cuts to that same expression pedal. Heel-down (clean) has the low cut at 65Hz, high cut at 12kHz. Toe-down (cookin') has the low cut at 100Hz, high cut at 6kHz.

I haven't really had pedal GAS since I got Helix, but man that is COOL!

There are more than a few intriguing things in that collection, thanks for the link!

That it is, and it's not bad either. However, after a several month self-imposed moratorium on third party IRs, where I've been using stock cabs exclusively, I'm putting my feet back in the water. I'm a fan of the Champ and that 1x8 is one where I'm interested to hear some different takes on it. So I suppose I should have been more specific, I am looking for a third party IR of the 1x8 Champ cab.

Hello all, I've searched the usual suspects and a couple of un-usual ones as well but have not been able to locate a cab IR of a Champ 1x8. Ownhammer used to have one but it's long since vanished from the webz. Anybody got a line on one? Thanks! -VB

I know you weren't asking me particularly, but I'll chime in regarding the Ownhammers. I find that the OH1 and/or OH2 mixes (sometimes F, sometimes M+, depending...) picked from the Quick Start folders give me just what I'm looking for.