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  1. Thanks!. Great tips. I've used emulations of this compressor in DAW environment. The thing is without a meter I have no clue of what kind of input I'm feeding the compressor. - 20DB, - 10db, 0db?. I guess I don't have the knowledge or experience without a meter. But in that case this compressor makes more sense as it's just "more or less" rather than a number which I have no clue about. If I connect my iPad via USB... Will y that measurement be reliable?. Will the USB audio reading be equivalent to that coming out of the xlr/jack outputs?. That way I could measure the before and after compression and see where I'm at...
  2. The point is that no, I don't like how everything sounds. And I'm trying to make adjustments. Deciding on the output level, in my case seems like a crucial starting point. I'm going from Helix to a tube amp. If it's too low I have to drive the amp too much... I need to get the right level to the amp. I had the big knob at 6. Then I read about setting it maxed, but now there's doubts about that too... With no blocks input from guitar and output should be at the same level. From there I can work properly. If it's not right I have to go through every path adjusting everything again.
  3. Thanks for the tip!. Any advice on setings, a starting point?. I was using Deluxe comp as it has more "standard" parameters, specifically threshold, and seems like a "safer" approach. But i´d appreciate some general settings for the LA. Overall i find compressors in Helix to be very "noticable" and thus you have to be careful. The thing that defeats me is the lack of meters in this scenario. I can´t seem to set the threshold reliably by ear. Default compressor settings set the threshold at around -40db which seems like a lot to me... I actually have no idea of what kind of db´s i´m working with. When i sing my loudest am i over 0db?, i can´t even set the input gain reliabily without a meter or some sort of cliping indicator.
  4. Really?. With input pad off?. Why is this so complicated!.
  5. tahiche

    Preset Viewer

    This is not true. The information is in the preset files that are just json files. I bet my Helix that the Helix unit actually stores patches in the same format. I own a Voicelive 3. Some guy, frustrated by the editor, made his own version and sells it. It's much better than the original. Now here's an idea... Why not open source?. If Line6 provided the block options, mappings... It wouldn't be hard to customize your editor. That would be groundbreaking, modern and very forward thinking. They sell Helix, not editors. They wouldn't need to provide any fancy info, just all the parameters and options available, how the json is read, etc... Again it's just fancy editing a text file. Straight away I'd do: - copy path from preset (simple foreach loop copying blocks on a path) - favourite setting per block (change default). All these could be "plugins". Atom editor, Microsoft Code... These are good examples of javascript based apps that allow for custom plugins and all sorts of enhancements.
  6. tahiche

    Preset Viewer

    There's absolutely no reason why the Helix Editor can't work standalone. When plugged to the helix it reads content from the Helix. When not it can read and write content from files. These are just Json files. The "only for Helix owners, you need a helix". Makes no sense. What would you do with presets and no helix?.what use would it be?. It's no a "propiatery" or "top secret" thing either. You can read the content of the Json files with a notepad. And pretty understandable too. An online editor wouldn't be that hard technically. The only thing is getting all the possible configurations documented and accounted for. That's a huuuge task. As for possible problems... So you open the editor, it sees no Helix. It warns you. Let's you work in read & write Json files mode. If you're going to quit without having saved patches (just like export) it warns you. Line 6, come on...
  7. No, I haven't tried it will do. Thanks for the tip. As I said, it's not just treble, it's harmonic content. I'll check the legacy ones (I keep forgetting about those). been reading about the impedance issues with fuzzes, I'm wondering if that might be affecting the sound. I wasn't putting the fuzz first in chain. There's always a volume pedal and I believe a compressor next, before the fuzz. Supposedly impedance should be at 10K to get optimal fuzz, and then back to 1M when the fuzz is off. Go figure.... Fuzz is fun and stupid and here I am reading about digitally triggered impedance circuitry. BTW. Do volume pedals count for impedance matching?.
  8. I'm struggling with the fuzz situation. So if the fuzz is the first block in the path, impedance should be set to 10K?. How does that affect the sound?. On my pedalboard i have a BigMuff as the first element in the chain. Love that thing. Haven't been able to come close in Helix. is it better to put the fuzz model first in chain for the impedance thing (i always have a volume block I never use). lastly... if I were to fail miserably at getting close to by BigMuff sound I'm gonna try putting it in a loop. How does the impedance thing affect the loop?. Should I set it to 10K?. Fuzz is the ONE sound I need to nail. I don't want to put it in front, before the Helix as one of the reasons I got it was to control tiptoeing and have the "one footwsitch rules them all" ability. thanks!
  9. I'm a very enthusiastic fuzz advocate. As such I'm fuzzy with fuzzes. im trying real hard but I just can't get the sound of my BigMuff (USA 90's) in Helix. Triangle fuzz is very, very close but I find it lacks harmonics... there's something definitely missing in the high end. It just doesn't cut through that well. Very noticeable when it's the basis of your sound. I play 3 string CGB, so it's more thick power chords kind of thing. The real BigMuff just fills up the space a lot more. Ive been reading about putting it in an FX loop, some say it doesn't sound right. Impedance, responding to guitar ... big issue for me. Another thing I might try is adding some mild OD after the Triangle , see if it helps with the high end/harmonics. I tried a dual shifter to add highs before the fuzz, it sort of helped but wasn't quite right. I obviously tried all fuzzes, and none cut through quite like my real BigMuff, I'd say they lack high end in general, they sound a bit muffled IMHO.
  10. Going into my "real" tube amp I had the BIG KNOB at around half way. This made me have to crank up the volume in the amp, a lot higher than without the Helix. I guess this means the valves were running hot, making it very prone to feedback. Without being very loud i was getting maniac feedback. I´m guessing having the amp run so hot (but not loud) was a big factor. I´m gonna try the full-right or dissenagaged (spdif) and no input pad, see what happens. I also have to find out what the right mic input gain is... Big knob designers, you´re cruel....
  11. Amen. A knob is supposed to go to 11, not only left... What´s the point of a knob all the way to the right?. Knobs are for "gimme more" !!!
  12. Ok so de-assigning the volume knob is equivalent of setting it at max?. Is that the case?. That is very unintuitive ;) Iñm guessing the same goes for vocals... de-assign and you get full knob... This is what i´m gonna do, just de-assign the thing or keep it maxed and start from there. NOTE TO MYSELF: get these things right and sorted before working on 11 presets!!!!!!.
  13. Sounds right. Any tip of what kind of compression block might be appropiate for vocals?. Maybe just cracking up the preamp? Thanks
  14. One more for the road.... And i mught be wrong.... Copying whole paths or having the option to say "copy path 1A from preset 3D" ... That would be a huge timesaver. Technically, again, i don´t see any reason why it can´t be done... It should be as simple as copy object "dsp0" from A to B. When you copy a block it´s basically copy "objX" from A to "objX" in B... basically the same.
  15. Couldn´t agree more. I´m migrating from a classic pedal-chain to Helix. To be able to set up blocks, inputs, outputs, snapshots.. without the helix would be a great elp. Like you mention, you could do this in the train... Work on a song you know has comp-chorus-delay-whatsoever in the verse and then fuzz and paricle reverbs in the chorus.... you could setup that chain as a starting point, program all snapshots, assign foot pedal... all those things you don´t need the helix for and it´d save a lot of time. You get to the rehearsal place, plug it in, upload and tweak... You also read about chains and settings in forums, dfferent ideas you want to try out... you could program a preset then and test it later. Big question is. Why not?. I don´t see any technical issues... a preset is basically a text file in some sort of json format.... Actually you could edit this with a text-editor given you are scaringly freakish... Why not with the program that generated it?. "dsp0": { "block1": { "MicLine": true, "@type": 1, "Low Pass": 20000, "@path": 0, "@enabled": true, "@bypassvolume": 1, "Output": 0.59, "@position": 2, "Hi Pass": 10, "Polarity": false, "@model": "HD2_PreampVintagePre", "Input": 0.61 }, "block0": { "@path": 0, "@enabled": true, "@stereo": true, "@type": 0, "Level": 0, "Mix": 0.9, "Gain": 0.7, "Type": false, "PeakReduction": 0.9, "@model": "HD2_CompressorLAStudioComp", "@position": 1, "Emphasis": 0.09 } .... You could actually do an online preset editor/generator given you had no life and were eager enough to study every possibe parameter, option, etc... But my point is, again, why not???
  16. This is a big NO in my case. I sing (with vocal FX) and play a CGB that produces bass (via SubNÚp octaver) and guitar into 2 amps (bass amp and guitar amp). Before the helix i needed an A/B to split the signal, separate pedal chains for bass sound and CGB plus a vocal FX unit (Voicelive 3). The tiptoing was pretty complicated... With the helix i have 3 differenciated signals: - guitar in - CGB with compressor, fuzz, chorus, delays, whatever - guitar amp out - guitar in - compressor, loop FX to SubNÚp for octaver (polyphonic) - bass FX (distorsion, etc) - bass amp out - vocal mic - loop fx to harmony pedal , vocal fx, delays, occasional pitch, chorus... (the mic pre in Helix is veerrrry good IMHO) Now i can change all 3 at once with a snapshot. I don´t know how you can be this happy for less money....That´s just for starters, add the less-cabling issues, the audio interface, the fact you have amp sims if you want them... For singer/guitarists that like to experiment with sound it´s a great and managable workflow. You´d be right if talking about just using some guitar pedals, in that case an HX effects would be better, but the multiple inputs/outputs and flexible routing is worth every penny. Just my 2 cents...
  17. This is indeed crucial. I worked on presets for all the songs only to fnd out levels are wrong and there´s a lot of feedback when going into my amp. For the moment i´m using Helix as an effects unit (no FRFR yet) into a tube amp. At low volumes (working on presets) everything was fine, but turn up the tube amp and horrible feedback. Had to ditch all preamps on my path, which added a wonderful color but I need to get the basics right first. I guess it´s about "unity gain". In theory, according to different posts, if you ser global "input pad" off and volume knob to max, that would be the same signal as pluggin your guitar straight into the amp. Is that the case?. Cos that´s a crucia starting point. I don´t want to change input/output gains per path, it makes the workflow a nightmare. If you get it wrong you have to go back and change every path/preset. Ideally i want a consistent level, the same as just plugin the guitar straight into the tube amp. Then add fx and watch that levels are not changed (obviously a distorsion or whatever is gonna increase level, but that´s the case with regular pedals). Same for the vocal mic input / gain stage. I need to get input DB´s right so that input and output ains are consistent and not per-preset. I´m finding this harder and less obvious than it seemed.
  18. And right you are ;) Im getting there... My compression threshold was way too low, I was over compressing. I believe I had the default setting which is at around -46db. That's probably a good staring point for guitar, but too low for vocals. I set it to around -20db and things improved dramatically. I wish the Helix had some sort of a metering thingy... I fiddle with compressors and know the basics but I tend to rely on DAW metering and didn't realize it was so off. Maybe even the tail from the reverb (which wasn't too high) from the speakers was reaching the microphone and being compressed... that would explain the "feedback after words" scenario. Now that it's somehow under control I want to incorporate some distorsion, megaphone kind of sound. That'll probably let hell loose again. Any tips on how to incorporate distorsion on vocals?. I'm thinking compression after distorsion, or no compression at all... thanks for your help!
  19. Ok, now I'm confused... I was reading about this and the volume full-on is supposed to be "unity". I need a "solid" starting point. I want to plug into the Helix, and with no blocks added out to my tube amp, get the same volume and sound I would get by plugin the guitar straight to the amp. By reading posts I'm assuming this would be: - Volume at full - No input pad - inputs and outputs at cero... Now you're saying "go easy on the knob"... argggghhh. I really need to get this basic stuff sorted out.
  20. I just got back from my first rehearsal with the Helix and my usual Fender amp. It was horrible, constant feedback. I spent the past day's working on the sound. I thought I had it. I was using some nice amps (no cabs), compressor, fuzz, chorus... going to the Fender. Eveytihing was sounding great until I turned up the volume to "rehearsal level", the feedback nightmare started. I had to turn off the amp sims on every preset. I believe there wasn't a problem with the Fender running low, as soon as I cranked it up the double amp/preamp was just too much. Distorsion was a no-no in that scenario. The second "mistake" I believe I made was having the volume knob Hal way through. Which seemed like a reasonable thing to do. Now I read that unity is full-on volume, so I had to turn the Fender volume way up to stupid levels.. I need to get it right!. 1) volume knob all the way up if plugin into a real amp?. 2) Helix amps a no-go when going into a real amp?. I need fuzz, distorsion, quite loud stuff. 3) silly me... are preamps and amps different?. I purposely avoided cabs as I was going to use an amp. I wish I could use the amp sims as I love how they color the sound and I can get different tones from song to song... is there an amp with no preamp... just for coloring I guess. Excuse me if this question is straight stupid... thanks!
  21. @silverhead I´m struggling with some bad feedback in the mic path, as i explain here (https://line6.com/support/topic/47160-vocal-microphone-feedback/?do=findComment&comment=298545). It might be related to what you point out, that the studio pre is set too high to compensate for input gain. Coould you please tell me about your current settings?. Specifically global mic gain, studiopre gain and compression... Thanks!!
  22. Hi, I'm working on some vocal patches. I'm using a standard sm58 mic into a mixer to Monitors. I'm impressed by the sound of the mic pre in the Helix and the Studio pre and blocks are great. i have encountered a problem where I run into some bad feedback. It seems like it's happening when compressor and effects are chained. Im using path 1A and 1B for guitar (CGB), path 2A for bass (SubNUp octaver in fxloop) and 2N for vocals. A typical vocal chain would be: studio pre (pretty much DEFAULT settings plus high and low cut) - LA Compressor - (optional) pitch block - (optional) modulation, phaser... - delay - reverb i try to keep reverb and delays short, but occasionally pump it up for some parts. when I have a few blocks engaged I get some pretty bad feedback. It seems to build up right after I finish a phrase, and gets worse if I keep "breathing". It's somehow related to the compressor and maybe the reverb... Tried lowering the compressor ratio, higher threshold... it helps but basically because it makes the volume lower. So I think proper comp settings will help but I haven't been able to find a good spot. I'm wondering if you nice and helpful people could point me in the right direction as in preamp settings, compression settings, etc so as to tame the feedback. I sort of tame it song by song by increasing height cuts and so on, but I'm not confident and don't feel too good about turning up at a venue and getting that embarrassing and horrible feedback. I also need to add distorsion to vocals, I'm holding back for the moment cos that is really going to make things worse. I own a Voicelive3 and had no problem with feedback. I believe VL3 has some feedback protection mechanism as well as adaptive compression, which I never gave much thought to but seems like it was a good feature. Thanks!
  23. Hi, Glad to have arrived at this post. I own a Voicelive3 and just adquired a Helix. Now THE QUESTION... These things are huge!!!. I was going to ditch the Voicelive, but it´s a great piece of gear, harmonies, looper... But having BOTH in front of me is just intimidating!!!!. Can you guys send a pic of how they look side by side on your setup?. The way I´m thinking i would set it up... 1) Vocals exclusively on VL3. Or do we need some swells?. Dynamics and eq seem better on the Helix... (Hate that VL3 doesn´t have proper tweakable vocal compressor). In that case, vocal input on Helix - preamp - dynamics - send to VL3 - return - some more Helix FX - XLR out. keeping vocals on VL3 is less messy. You´d need 1/4 to XLR adapters to be able to send/return from Helix... Impedance stuff and horrible unexplicable things might happen... - A send from guitar path in Helix to use harmonizer in VL3 2) Looper: VL3, definately. VL3 is only Midi-slave so Helix would be master... You´d need to return guitar from VL3 for this. So in a non-loop mode the guitar would go from Helix to VL3 and back, unprocessed, when in loop mode the guitar loop would come back here too. This guitar send would need to be at the end of the chain, so as to send the guitar processed from Helix into the looper (and back). Now... You wouldn´t want VL3 to process the guitar (Helix send . VL3 guit in - VL3 guit out - Helix return), even with no FX it´d do "something". But I beleive the "guitar thru" on the VL3 doesn´t carry the loop signal... so bummer here... I use a quitar amp and vocals on different paths. If you don´t (i beleive it´s your case) both guit and vocals might leave the VL3 on the XLR. In that case, the VL3 would be the one sending the output to the PA, no going back to Helix... 3) Presets / snapshots: I hear the VL3 midi implementation is smehow limited.. I read you could use a Helix command to trigger the "HIT" on the VL3, which is nice (I change both vocals and guitar on, say, a chorus) but it´d be problematic to have to switch presets on both before each song... If anyone know if you can send a "Change preset on VL3 from Helix" please let me know. And after this boring long-lollipop dissertation... Aren´t they huge????. BTW: I sing and play a 3 string CGB that does both guitar and bass. Currently i use a splitter. One side goes to VL3 guitar - guitar amp, the other goes to a SubN.Up (sweet octaver) a cheap Zoom bass FX unit - bass amp. I mean for Helix to simplify this, use Helix for both guitar AND bass processing. I´ll keep the SubNÚp on an FX loop since it´s polyphonic and way better than Helix shifters. But i´ll loose the bass fx thing and I´ll be able to change the sound of both with a single switch.... I really need to simplify my tap dancing... But here I find myself thinking about keeping the VL3... I hate you.
  24. I´m not making it clear, i know... Let me try again. Thanks for your patience!. I´ll quote te pic from my current starting point as ref. As you can see, I´m already out of space in my vocal path (2B). I obviously need to add a UniVibe here. Who doesn´t ;) ? On path 1B i got some general-purpose parallel effects, reverb, delay... These are what you´d set up as "send bus" in a traditional console (or DAW) approach. I would have no prob in sharing these between guitar and vocals, so yes, one instance of a block shared between vocals and guitar. That would free up some space (and DSP ?) . But we have to take into account they have unique inouts/outputs: - vocal has mic input and XLR output - guit has guitar in - 1/4 out - bass has guitar in - send 1 (or whatver) out This means vocal reverb, delay... has to go back to vocal path (2B). Guitar reverb, delay, back to guitar path (1A) No vocal reverb going into guitar amp, no guitar reverb to vocal PA... The only way i can see this happening is using send/returns, but i can´t quite get my head around it.... Use a "send 1" on guitar & vocals. I could set the "Bus FX" (now 1B) to have a return 1 as input (i beleive this would require a little cable from send 1 to return 1 as i see no "virtual loopbacks"). But the output?. It´d need to be a return, right?. Cos´if itñs say XLR, the guitar reverb would go to the vocal PA. So i´m thinking it could be "Send 2" , (another little cable patch), and then use a "Return 2" on both guitar and vocal. Still, with both vocals and guitar sending signal to one instance of reverb, the return from that reverb would have both guitar and vocals, which makes sense, just like on a traditional Send Bus... I think it can´t be done. It´d be possible if they shared an output, like using Amp+cab block and not output to a physical guitar amp. Thanks!!
  25. Adding on my previous post. A "global settings" per Block actually makes a lot of sense from a "pedals" perspective. With a traditional multiple.pedals setup you mostly configure pedals once. You setup your BigMuff how you like and leave it like that, you don´t noodle with 12 pedals in between every song. You just turn them on or off.. That´s exactly how these "global settings" would work. Treating your blocks as if they were real pedals, you add Fuzz to your pedal and fuzz is added on every preset because it´s a per-block thingy, not a preset setting. Just like real pedals. I really, really need this!!. Ok so i´ve owned the Helix for some 3 days and i´m already an annoying brat ;)
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