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I stand corrected. The #69 messages do not get sent with Snapshot CC Send disabled. All other messages are sent as expected. Thanks again for all your help.

Hopefully, we can agree to disagree. That is not how it works. Thanks again for your help.

Thanks for your reply. Snapshot CC Send does not enable automatically, but the Stomp does always send itself a #69, 0, 1 or 2 for the corresponding Snapshot change. Snapshot CC Send is enabled in Menu > Global Settings > MIDI/Tempo > Snapshot CC Send > ON/OFF Snapshot CC Send, if enabled, allows you to send an Instant Command [CC message(s)], anywhere, upon entering that Snapshot. This is great, as you pointed out, for controlling other MIDI capable devices. Ahh, yes. I see that now. Thanks again.

I have identified the root of my troubles. Possibly a bug. Snapshot CC Send does not work if all values in all snapshots are the same. Three different values, one for each snapshot and it works perfectly.

Hey all, looking for some help with "Snapshot CC Send" on an HX Stomp updated to 3.7.0. I have an empty preset with all MIDI Globals turned off, except USB MIDI is on so I can monitor messages being sent. I have one Instant Command configured to send a different CC Value to an outside channel for each Snapshot. The messages are being sent, even with Snapshot CC Send turned off. Is this expected behavior? I expected no messages to be sent. Thanks

Does the switch stay "ON" when you push and release it? Have you tested it with an ohm meter or continuity tester?

The switch needs to me a "maintained contact" (latching) type switch, rather than a "momentary contact" switch. Is that what you have?

From the manual: 12. EXP 1/2, FS 7/8 Connect an expression pedal here to adjust a wide vari- ety of parameters.* With a Y-cable (tip-ring-sleeve 1/4" jack, split to two tip-sleeve 1/4" jacks), two expression pedals can be connected. Alternatively, you can add one (or with a Y-cable, two) external footswitches to access additional stomps, presets, snapshots, etc. (FS7=tip, FS8=ring). To set this jack’s function(s), see page 57. By default, this jack is set to accommodate a Mission SP1-L6H Line 6 Expression Pedal, which has a toe switch that toggles between EXP 1 (Wah/Pitch or Poly Wham) and EXP 2 (Volume/Pan). For external footswitches, the momentary (unlatched) type should be used. *NOTE: It is recommended to connect to this EXP1/2, FS 7/8 input while the device is powered off to avoid toggling the current FS 7/8 setting.

Sorry for any confusion. I have edited the article to clarify the points you raise as well as the misinformation about the Helix LT, mentioned by @bradfordlumley I also made a couple of other edits to make a few steps clearer. To clarify your two points of confusion: My SP1-L6H pedal was manufactured in 2016 and the output jacks are individual components. For your model with the output jacks mounted to a printed circuit board with the ribbon cable, you may have to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to ID the tip and sleeve wires of the output jacks. I have added verbiage to indicate Tip and Sleeve. Since this is a Push-Push switch, the references above to N.O. and N.C. are not applicable, the point of using those designations was to indicate connections to the switched side of the switch and not to use the common side of the switch. I hope that helps.

Thanks for clarifying.

Perfect. Thanks. It would be cool if there was a way to page over to engage or bypass effects that don't appear on the first page? Would anyone find that useful? Does anyone know if that idea is already on Ideascale? Thanks again.

I couldn't find a like question or answer so here goes. This is specific to HX Effects. I have seven effects blocks in use, including an effects loop and two overdrives. In stomp view I can see the effects loop and one overdrive. If I hold the Mode switch down to see “More", I can see the other OD on the second page. How do I swap or move the FX Loop to the second page and the OD to the first page?

Nah, not at all. Just a simple oversight. We all do it. Thanks for letting us know you got it sorted out.

Maybe something going on with channel assignment. The JVM might have to re-learn the assignments. Did you start from scratch after the update? My best guess.

I'm not an Helix LT user but here goes. From the Manual: EXP PEDAL 2/EXT AMP An additional expression pedal can be connected to Helix LT and assigned to adjust a wide variety of parameters. See "Quick Controller Assign" Alternatively, this jack can be connected to your traditional guitar amp to switch its channels or turn its reverb on and off. Use a TRS cable for dual operation (1=tip, 2=ring). To set this jack's function, see "Global Settings > Preferences" It only has one jack, but that one jack has a dual function. You could use a TRS to two TS 'Y' adapter and use the Expression input on one and the switch input on the other. In that scenario, you would not need to modify the Line 6/Mission Exp pedal and can use it right out of the box.

I'm not an HX Effects user, but the same principles still apply. From the HX Effects manual: Two expression pedals can be connected to the HX Effects device and assigned to adjust a wide variety of parameters. The modified exp pedal can be used to control either of those, just as in all of the examples above. I would not expect to see any specific "toe switch functionality" added to HX Effects or any other unit that does not already have that functionality. Even it it was, the modified toe switch, with the added resistors, would likely not work. BUT, IF that functionality was added, the unmodified pedal would work just as it does with the Helix Rack. The modified toe switch mimics an expression pedal in a cocked, fixed position. That position being determined/represented by the value of the fixed resistors that are installed with the mod.

They are the exact same pedal. One has the switch, the other doesn't. The one with the switch has two jacks, one for exp and one for the switch. Get the one with the switch. If you find you can use it (now or later) great, if you can't, no loss. Last I looked (not lately) they were the same price.

I updated to 1.06 from 1.05 and bricked my G10. It's an original G10, not the S. Same symptoms and indicators as everyone else with the Rx pulsing red. I reflashed the Rx and Tx several times to no avail. I even downgraded back to v 1.05 with no luck. Yes, you can downgrade to the older firmware/software if you have the files. I've always downloaded and saved all update files so I still have v 1.05 After it initially bricked, I reflashed it four or five times and nothing changed. I did both the Tx and Rx multiple times. Here is where it gets a little weird. I had unplugged the Rx power and had the Tx laying in the desk. Then, without thinking I plugged the Rx back into power with the Tx still laying on the desk. Whoa, now I see the Rx pulsing white. I then plugged the Tx into the Rx and now it is working fine. WTF??? I can not comment on battery life or short range dropouts at this time.

I can't find any before pics but the toe switch is a SPDT (Single Pole Double Throw) momentary contact (commonly referred to as "non-latching") switch wired to the one (TS) jack for the toe switch output.

Yes, this is easily done. You can use Exp 2 and 3 for the Mission pedal and have Exp 1 for whatever you want.

Typically the center terminal is C and the two outside terminals are NO and NC. You can check it with an ohmmeter or continuity tester. You are just using one half of the switch.

The DPDT switch you have is fine. You will only need to use one side. The C common, the NC normally closed and NO normally open terminals will be identified on the switch.

How to Use the Mission SP1-L6H Toe Switch with Line6 Helix and HX Introduction Mission Engineering manufactures two expression pedals designed specifically for use with the Helix product line. The EP1-L6 is an expression only pedal and does not have a toe switch. It has one (TS) jack for Exp output. This pedal is designed to work with Helix Floor, LT, HX Stomp and HX Effects. The SP1-L6H is an expression pedal that includes a toe switch. This pedal is designed to work with Helix Rack only and has two separate output jacks. One (TS) jack for Exp output and one (TS) jack for the toe switch output. The toe switch is a SPDT (Single Pole Double Throw) momentary contact (commonly referred to as "non-latching") switch. This pedal is designed for exclusive use with Helix Rack. For HX Stomp - If the desire is to simply use the SP1-L6H toe switch as an external foot switch 4 or 5, no modifications to the SP1-L6H are required. It will perform that function right out of the box. There is no provision in Helix Floor, LT or HX Effects to use an external expression pedal toe switch as an additional controller or foot switch but with a mod we can utilize this functionality. Both pedals incorporate a 10K ohm pot for the expression output and both are built in the exact same enclosure/housing. The additional holes in the EP1-L6 have plugs installed in them. Purpose To modify either the EP1-L6 or the SP1-L6H so as to be able to utilize the toe switch output as an expression input to the Helix Floor, HX Stomp or HX Effects. Use Case The idea of utilizing the toe switch came up when a user wanted to use the SP1-L6H as a traditional Wah pedal. Meaning the toe switch would simply toggle the Wah block in their Preset ON or OFF. With a little imagination there could be many more use cases. For example, the toe switch could toggle on a Delay block and then use the expression to control the Delay's Feedback parameter. Or the toe switch could be used to set any parameter on any block, completely independent of what the expression output is controlling. The Modifications This mod is easily performed on the EP1-L6 pedal also as the housings are the same. The holes are already drilled and have plugs in them. Notes on modifying the EP1-L6 (non-toe switch pedal) - As mentioned above, both pedals are built in the same enclosure. These modifications will require the addition of a (TS) output jack (along with the additional components listed below) if you are adding this feature to the EP1-L6 pedal. Also, you may need to add a felt or other pad under the treadle to engage the toe switch. For HX Stomp Only - If the desire is to simply use the SP1-L6H toe switch as an external foot switch 4 or 5, no modifications to the SP1-L6H are required. It will perform that function right out of the box. Parts Needed 1 -- Replacement Toe Switch as described below. The stock toe switch for a Crybaby Wah is a perfect replacement. 1 -- 100 ohm resistor. 1/4 watt is fine. The 100 ohm value is a suggestion. You can use whatever low value you have on hand. The Exp Input just needs to see something when the switch is off, or Helix will default back to the onboard Exp Pedal. Whatever value you end up with, you will need to adjust the "Bypass Assign" "Position" parameter to match that resistance value for the parameter being controlled to enable. For a 100 ohm resistor this will be about 25%. 1 -- 10K ohm resistor. 1/4 watt is fine. * The 10K resistor could be a pot or trim pot if a variable output is desired. This could be used for more granular control of the toe switch's expression input to the Helix/HX. * For the purpose of this article, the above resistor values will be used. For the SP1-L6H 1. Replace the stock toe switch with a SPDT (Single Pole Double Throw) maintained contact switch. Commonly referred to as "latching". The stock toe switch for a Crybaby Wah is a perfect replacement. 2. Solder one end of the 100 ohm resistor to the N.O. terminal of the new toe switch. 3. Solder one end of the 10K ohm resistor to the N.C. terminal of the new toe switch. Note for Step 2 and 3 above: Since this is a Push-Push switch, the references above to N.O. and N.C. are not applicable, the point of using those designations was to indicate connections to the switched side of the switch and not to use the common side of the switch. 4. Solder the two (both) loose ends of the resistors to the Red (Tip) wire going to the output jack being used for the toe switch. 5. Solder the C (common) terminal of the new toe switch to the Black (Sleeve) wire going to the output jack being used for the toe switch. Note that the SP1-L6H used here, the one in the photo, was manufactured in 2016 and the output jacks are individual components. Later models have the output jacks mounted to a printed circuit board and has a ribbon cable. You may have to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to ID the tip and sleeve wires of the output jacks. DONE Setup For this example we will use the expression pedal with it's new toe switch functionality as a traditional Wah pedal. Pressing the toe switch once will turn the Wah block ON. Pressing the toe switch again will turn the Wah block OFF. For Helix and HX Effects 1. Select the Wah Block in your Preset. 2. Select Main Menu 3. Select "Bypass Assign" 4. Set "Switch" to whichever Exp Input you are using for the Toe Switch. 5. Set "Position" to 25%. 6. SAVE SAVE 7. Select Main Menu 8. Select "Controller Assign" 9. Set "Parameter" to "Position". 10. Set "Controller" to the exp input you want to use for the Wah function. 11. SAVE SAVE DONE For HX Stomp 1. Select the Wah Block in your Preset. 1. Select Main Menu 2. Select "Bypass Assign" 3. Set "Switch" to the expression input you want to use for the toe switch input. 4. Set the Position parameter to 25%. 5. SAVE SAVE 6. Select Main Menu 7. Select "Controller Assign" 8. Set "Param" to "Psition". 9. Set "Controller" to the expression input you want to use for the Wah function. 10. SAVE SAVE DONE Go play guitar.

Hmmmmm. Interesting. I hadn't looked at the new manual, thanks for that. It appears there has been an oversight. You might want to write this one in. Powercab+ Master Volume MIDI CC#7. Edit: Not enabling control of the Powercab+ Master Volume via L6 Link is my big disappointment in the latest updates.

Please, don't take my word for it. It's on page 13 in the manual in the MIDI CC - Global Functions chart, MIDI CC#7. It's functionally different than controlling the Level parameter in the output block because it doesn't affect the level going to the FOH or DAW or whatever from the XLR output of the Powercab+ and it doesn't affect gain staging.