mikah912

Just so you know, they DON'T have those X3-era amps lying around. I asked the same question quite awhile ago. Digital Igloo stated a lot of those were on loan. They've already modeled a lot of the stuff in the Line 6 collection that they actually own. Anyway, they're clearly busy with....stuff. I'd wait until NAMM or so, and you might be surprised at how much comes to light. It's just four weeks away....

I get the "Keeping Up With Da Joneses" thinking behind threads like these, but think about it this way: If the current amp lineup of Helix were physically displayed in a new music store you walked into in a room where you could play isolated to your heart's content, you'd likely think it was one of the best experiences ever. You wouldn't be wrong. I know it doesn't cover every little thing in existence, but there are modelers for that. I don't wanna give up the support, interface, workflow, integration with Native, Variax switching and so, so much more just because it doesn't have Boutique Metal/Clean/Midgain amp X or Y. Those amps are probably derivatives of at least one amp circuit currently in the box anyway.

Hey man...I truly dug this one. That Badonk amp model is so versatile, and you made the most of it here.

Hey man...nothing wrong with chasing tone in your head. If that's your thing....go for it. After doing some research, it appears that Ben Adrian confirmed that the Shiva modeled in the Helix is the 60-watt 6L6 version, when all of your personal experience and what you linked to in your clip is from NINETY watt KT88 "Anniversary" version, so....pretty much a different animal. They're definitely voiced differently.

I guess my question is why you would want THAT tone. It's fizzy, flubby and mega undefined. Reminds of me days in my youth wasted by mid-scooping a dimed Crate amp in drop D. In fact, if you told me it came from, say, a Boss GT-6, I'd believe you. That would be eaten up in any sort of live or studio mix. Blech.....

Another thing to remember is that there are multiple revisions of both the Shiva and Uberschall with different power tubes, plate voltage values and other small idiosyncrasies. So it's hard for anyone's distant memory of the "amp in the room" sound of ONE version to match up with a mic'd version of what's probably a completely different version in the Line 6 collection.

1/10. Troll harder.

Depends. If I have a guitar with relatively PAF/vintage-like pickups, I do it before the amp. If not, then I do it between the amp and the cab block.

Hey, we hear what we hear, but there wasn't a single note or string that was "smudged" on the Helix Native track to my ears. If I ever detect any in my own patches, an EQ boost in the 1.2-1.6khz range usually clears it right up. These are not static settings that can never be changed, after all....

Clarity isn't an inherent trait to either modeling platform. It's all about how you set up the gain staging of your signal chain. I say this as a multiple-time Fractal user. Or just look at the latest video from Sonic Drive Studio where he compared a Friedman BE100 in Native with his hardware Axe-FX III. Very little difference between the two, and it definitely ain't in clarity.

https://helixhelp.com/2017/05/16/tip-experiment-with-the-studio-tube-pre/

All completely rebuilt, but the newer ones are - generally speaking - better than the launch ones. Even the Line 6 engineers admit that they've gotten better at the process as they've gone along balancing stark accuracy with what actually sounds good to their ears. Honestly, you could stay with just the Mesa LoneStar, PRS Archon, Friedman BE100, Voltage Queen/Victoria Electro King,Matchless DC30, Litigator, Badonk and Cartographer models and cover about the whole spectrum of tones from virtually any amp out there. I mean, you got Vox (BE100 clean channel, Matchless DC30), Fender (Archon and Lonestar clean channels), Marshall (Friedman, Cartographer), Boutique/Dumble (Litigator) and multiple high gain flavors (Archon, Friedman, Cartographer, Badonk)

That's damn good tone, Nick. Thanks for sharing that. I'm very much looking forward to the tone walkthrough that's imminent.

Nothing insane about it at all. I just don't wanna bother with multiple HARDWARE modelers these days. I'm pretty with having my Helix settled, and should I need additional amp modeling for fun or whatever - I can call up any of the 50 Thermionik amp models or TSE X50 V2. But honestly, that's way more than enough. At some point, ya gotta stop tweaking and play.

They JUST had a Memorial Day sale a few weeks back when LT owners could get it for $99. Keep your eyes peeled for the next big holiday period - well, US holiday period - if that's a really big deal to you.