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Have a look at the Yamaha APX500.

It's also got a different bridge/tremolo, different woods, different strings, different nut, and is a different guitar. All of these also affect the sustain.

As I said, Line 6 doesn't sell spare parts, apart from those available in the online store (batteries, etc.) Your local Line 6 repairer can order in whatever parts they need, but you have no direct access to these. The only way to get this JTV repaired is to go through your Line 6 repairer unfortunately.

Unfortunately, Line 6 uses a lot of custom parts for these switches and potentiometers. The only way to get this fixed is to get a Line 6 repairer to do it. There are essentially no spare parts available for the JTVs (apat from batteries, etc.), and your normal electronics shops don't carry these specialised parts. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. You should be able to convince your repairer to get the part in rather than hold onto your guitar for 3 months however.

To the OP, don't do it! The JTV batteries are expensive, and only last 2-3 years if maintained properly. If you leave the battery discharged for any extended period, there's a decent chance it'll be dead when you try to use it again. $50 more please. I have 700's and I'll be leaving them the way they came so Line 6 can't keep putting their hand in my pocket. You can also get the power adapter from Line 6, or power it off a VDI cable into a POD HD500/X. My JTV59 is powered off my 700 power adapter so I don't have to keep forking out for batteries.

I ended up with a Variax 700 after initially intending to buy a Fender V GUitar. I went to GC to try it out, and the modelling was just awful. The store rep recommended I try the VG-99, which I did and it was definitely better, but still not up to scratch. I went home gearless and did a search on the internet and came across this variax thing I'd never heard of. A guy on youtube did an acoustic demo and it blew me away. I got a second-hand one and have been very happy ever since. Now, whether Line 6's results are due to the piezo pickups, rather than Roland's Magnetic pickups I'm not sure, although I suspect it has a lot to do with it.

DId you check the electrical connections were the same on both batteries? Same positions, same sizes, same voltages?

I understand the disappointment but as has been said, development takes time, and every JTV was sold with a Workbench interface, so I don't think it's unreasonable of Line 6 to provide the update with the expectation that owners would still have them. I'm sure it is something they will eventually provide however (access using POD HD500/s/PRO). One month is a very small timeframe in the development world.

Indeed Sir, And one thing I learnt early on in my career is that the final price has more to do with what people will pay then it does on manufacturing cost. God knows I pay a huge mark-up every time I buy coffee (a friend of mine started a small coffee shop and is astounded at the mark-up he can charge customers). Oregon: I must get there some time. I live in L.A. at the moment, and have not made it as far as Oregon so far, but I have heard it's beautiful. I picture lots of trees, but that may be just in my head. Now, where did I put that wine? ps: I can't believe I just mis-spelled Oregon twice. Apologies. pps: just to clarify, some of those comments you quoted were actually by spmartin, not me.

So it was you who cut the cheese?

In this demo, it sounds to me that a significant part of the difference is that v2 seems to be recorded at a slightly lower volume than the v1.9. Part of v1.9 sounding more "beefy" is this difference in volume. Only part to be sure, but it definitely seems to be the case to my ear.

I'm going to try to keep this short: the only reason I disagree with you is you keep making statements as fact that are simply not so. (And it's derisory to say "I operate from a handful of incorrect assumptions". I don't operate from any assumptions at all. You use this as a way of establishing yourself as the arbiter of truth). "I'm quite sure"....well no, you're not. You have no idea what their cost basis is. Or maybe you are quite sure, but you shouldn't be. You are not the only one with real world experience, nor the only one with product management experience. I too at least have both (although admittedly, not in the battery space). If you didn't present your opinions as fait accompli then we wouldn't need to have these chains. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but when you make statements of opinions as facts, and I disagree with the so-called facts, or incorrect representation of models, then I feel I have no choice but to try to provide a dissenting voice. If something is an established fact, then I'm happy to accept those, but everything else is opinion and should be presented as such. But I wish us both, and everybody else well. I'm just trying to keep the discussion balanced and absent of mis-information to the extent possible. I value everybody's opinions, but get irked when anyone says "well, just believe me: this is the way it is" (not that you quite put it like that). I'd happiiy have a beer with you anytime, although I'm more of a wine drinker. :) Peace my brother.

Highly doubtful they'd be losing money given Chinese companies can sell similar batteries for $6. Obviously they're making a profit, or they wouldn't do it. And it's not like Line 6 has brick-and-mortar costs for their online battery shop. Nope, a tidy mark-up is in play here. That being said, $50 seems to be around the going rate for Genuine Sony Batteries for their camcorders, so it seems like this is the price-point that the market will sustain for these things. Mind you, I haven't bought a second battery due to the cost so I guess they missed my price-point (plus I use either the HD500 or the power-pack generally, with the battery there in case I can't get power).

Well, I don't agree it's a minor point. I also agreed with you but essentially, you somewhat dismissed the poll by saying it was just representative of "the chosen ones". I think the poll has more worth than that.

I'm not disagreeing that there will be a bias. Beta testers are a very specific group, often hand-selected by the manufacturer. "and their ilk" would still fall into the "hand-selected" group, and worse, has a negative connotation. This is not representative of the structure of IdeaScale at all. So, while I agree with the intent of your post, this part of your argument is fallacious. I do agree that this is biased and does not necessarily represent the broader market, but no statistical sampling ever does, hence degrees of confidence.

Ummm, they're not Beta testers. Anyone who has an interest in Line 6 product direction can register and vote.

This information is effectively available to us at ideascale, where: Nylon String: 115 Votes New Models: 43 Votes Old Acoustic Models on JTV: 8 Votes

I've checked the voltage. They're both 7.4. The current draw is not really relevant for batteries. The mAh is similar so it will be fine. That being said, I wouldn't try it without checking the electrical connections are the same on both. But it is plausible that this may work.

Not identical, but the voltage and mAh looks good, but there appears to be a difference in the packaging in the back. Not sure if it would fit a JTV or not. Plus, one would want to test the connections before plugging it in to anything.

Totally incorrect and somewhat arrogant analogy. +1

It takes 3.5 - 4 hours the first time. It'll go constant red when charging. Pressing the battery test should have shown you something after 3 hours though. You might have a bad battery. Leave it charging overnight and if still nothing the next day, send the battery back.

Have you let Line 6 know through a support ticket? It sounds like a design problem given that there is now more than one of you with this issue. If you tell Line 6 about it there's a chance they may fix it in an update.

There's no reason you shouldn't be able to leave it in standby for 3 days, so you didn't really do anything stupid. It's a bummer that it broke though. It sounds like it would have happened eventually anyway, so hopefully you can get it fixed under warranty.

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