silverhead

Thanks for clarifying….. and don’t beat yourself up too badly! -;)

I don’t think using the Helix Stadium vs. any other piece of audio equipments matters. You’ll get more info by asking this question in a forum with a wider (not just Line 6) audience. Not that you may not get helpful info here, just that you’re fishing in a relatively small pool for an ocean-wide question. Budget and required features matters a lot more than Helix Stadium.

So why do you use Helix rather than the real physical amp of whatever model you're using?

Actually I do have an answer of sorts. Helix Stadium is not currently able to convert audio to midi notes. You can submit a feature request for this capability here: https://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/ An AI will guide you towards products that are now able to do that, or will do it itself.

I don’t have an answer for you but I have moved your topic to the Helix Stadium subforum where Stadium users will see it, hopefully giving it more visibility.

Kind of defeats the purpose of a modeller doesn’t it?

I've only noticed one impact from Yamaha on Line 6 product development. They discontinued Line 6 products that competed with existing Yamaha products, specifically mixers (Stagescape M20D), PA speakers (Stagesource L2/L3/LS), and guitars (Variax). There's been no Line 6 development of any new products in those domains since Yamaha's purchase of Line 6. Variax JTV, Standard and Shuriken were already in development, profitable, manufactured by Yamaha anyway (except for JTV), and allowed to proceed. Development of Variax ended in 2018 when next-gen Variax was on the drawing board.

But you have modified something - the active Snapshot. If you Save the preset now it will load with a different snapshot (the current one) next time. That’s a change.

Sounds to me like a hardware fault on both units. You can contact a Line 6 Service Centre for repair options and cost.

Yes, I had overlooked the FRFR part in my earlier response. The AI directions seem correct to me as far as they go. But I think it has overlooked the desire to use either the real amp or an amp sim at any time. You still need the amp sim block after the FX Loop and you need to arrange for it to be bypassed when the FX Loop is on. You will need to use a Split block after the amp sim with a Cab/IR after the Split to provide cab simulation to the FRFR. I would use the 2nd Output block rather than a Send block for the FRFR signal. The signal entering the Split block should have either the amp’s preamp or the amp sim, not both. Choose/configure the Split block to send the signal through to both paths. One path goes to the amp’s cab while the other goes through a cab sim to the FRFR. Set up your presets to use either your amp’s preamp or an amp sim, not both. For your amp’s preamp activate the FX Loop, and deactivate it for the amp sim. If you want to get really fancy and use either the amp’s preamp or an amp sim in the same preset you might look into using Snapshots to activate or bypass the FX Loop and the amp sim with one footswitch.

1. 4CM setup uses an FX Loop in the Stadium signal chain. One signal chain, no need for separate outputs. 2. Assign a Stomp footswitch to the FX Loop FX block. Do not use a Cab/IR in the preset; your physical amp cab provides that. When the FX Loop is active the signal is sent to your physical amp’s guitar input (preamp section) so deactivate the amp model in the preset. When the FX Loop is bypassed the signal does not go to to your amp’s preamp section so you want an active amp model placed after the FX Loop in the signal chain. 3. Any FX blocks you place before the FX Loop in the preset’s signal chain are in front of the amp, whether the real amp or the amp model (only one of which should be active at any time). Any FX blocks placed after the amp model are post amp. The only confusion here would be if your preset signal chain places FX blocks after the FX Loop and before the amp model. Those blocks would be post real amp but pre amp model. You might want to avoid that setup unless you have a specific purpose. 4. Just make sure you get the cabling right. I can’t tell you how many times novice 4CM users say “I’m sure my cabling is correct” when it’s not.

That’s correct at this time. Marketplace compatibility will come in a future release.

You’ve done all the right things to recover it. Open a support ticket. Maybe it can be recovered but my guess is it’s headed for a service centre.

Perhaps the Stadium is sending a MIDI PC command whenever a preset is loaded, and perhaps the Power Cab is responding to that? You can turn that off in the Stadium’s Global Settings -> MIDI.

A couple of reasons come to mind... 1. Not everybody uses Snapshots. It could cause a lot of confusion for those people. They're meant to be used intentionally. 2. In the original Helix there was a limit of 64 parameters that could be controlled by Snapshots. I'm not sure whether that (or another) limitation exists in Helix Stadium but if it does it could quickly be reached. Again this could cause much confusion for people wondering why their Snapshot parameters suddenly don't seem to be working in a given preset but are working in other presets. But many users might prefer what you're suggesting. Feel free to submit a feature request. https://line6.com/company/contact/productfeedback/