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[StaffK]

So here goes, I`ve been a long user of Line 6 footware & always loved it using the modellers to the XT Live, HD500 & Now the Pro X Rack. I used to run through 2 Randall RH heads but started to get a god awful noise (digital artifact) so I sold the heads & got a pre ampless power amp. The Hiss/Fizz whatever you want to call it went but !! on the Treadplate settings there was a bad springy type reverb after palm mutting. It`s taken test after test to get rid of this & I did ..No lollipop Sherlock. The Treadplate is that sensitive  or powerful it turned my guitars especially with active pups into a giant Microphone. So all the springs had to go from the pick ups to be replaced with surgical tubing which you can buy fromWD Music Products (pick up tubing mounts) for the hassle they`re cheap.. & After eagerly powering up it was still there this springy reverb noise but not as much so & added some dampeners to my floyd rose springs (Tissue) and it was still there. End diagnosis it was the strings from the headstock to the tunes so they had to be muffled with electric tape but you can use bandage socks scrunchies.. anything to stop the ring. & all sounds now eliminated but your guitar does start to look like a mummy.. All for the sake of using a treadplate.

 

Soooooo 3 months later after I finished dicking around trying to get rid of this """digital artifact""" which infact was guitar noise not the HD but caused by the HD I decided to set up My HD Pro x for some Zakk Wilde sounds & TBH its more of a Zakk not so Wilde Everything just sounds week & not even close to the sound you`re trying to put down . The Sound just isn`t there.. Like I said I loved Line 6 but I don`t know now. Every processor you see is tested through a digital remastered recording wether its Line 6, Kemper, Or Axe FX. I think my way forward is loosing the Pro X & everything Else & trying out a powered Kemper.

So I`ll keep you posted on my Decree Absolute.. !!

[cruisinon2]

So rather than try (gasp) something other than the Treadplate model, you set about performing all sorts of minor surgery on all your guitars? There are dozens of amp models in that thing...try another one.

[BillBee]

or set the "input z" to 1 M  for actives?

 

Fizz? Not really much of an issue if you EQ it right. There are some great threads here.

 

I run an old Kramer with the 81/85 combo and I don't get the issues you have. But I understand, I still optionally jump around and use a G5, RP1000 and a few others to give the ears a break now and again.

 

Good luck Dude!!

 

-B

[StaffK]

Cheers for reading, The Tread seems to be the main culprit for the noise, Because I play more hair metal & a bit of metal I didn,t notice the fault too much but the thing is on certain amps it does turn the guitar into picking everything up. I`ve solved most of that now.  I try other amps, I think part of what it is I now use a power amp to cut out doubling up on pre amps & the room I keep my gear in is now in my new house so I know theres alot to do with change of acoustic. So after alot of Gasps & trying other amps which I do, I every now and again might want to use an ear searing Tread Its there purchased its there for me to use. My combos are either 81/85 or Dims super Ds. If you guys have any settings that you can post here That comes close Hey drop em by, stop for tea ;).. Thanks again guys

P.S My playing is like les dawson playing piano so that might have something to do with it.

[StaffK]

Heres my set up, Pro x rack running into a power amp Rocktron Velocity 300 stereo into Marshall JCM 800 Laed 4x12. My pick ups vary from 81/85... Super Distortion and 7 string emg think 707 or 727 Whats the setting on the edit it should be on but also the bios in the rack e.g Studio/ front stack / combo etc input i source input 2 source on the edit.. Please

[DunedinDragon]

I suspect from what you've written that the sounds are there if you're willing to understand and use all the various editing parameters that apply to your setup i.e. input z, no cab, or with cab and resonance/thump adjustments, bias, sag, etc.  But it doesn't sound like you've spent much time with these adjustments (or you have and simply didn't mention it).  You have a fairly non-standard input and a somewhat odd output arrangement that most likely need to be adjusted for.  How much have you tinkered with these various factors?

[AlexKenivel]

Line6 Footwear. Imagine..shoes that model other shoes.

[bartnettle1]

LOL 

Well good on you for sorting out the vibrating strings as a cause.

good luck with your powered kemper

[leesteel]

:)

[joel_brown]

StaffK - this is the dilemma the PODHD has put us in since day one.  It can be difficult to get the tones you want.  I had some of the same problems you described, part of the problems in your pickups and speaker cab.  Reduce Thump and increase Low Cut.  Right off the bat that will help your issues.

 

I've had both EMGs and DiMarzio Supers.  Try some of the Gibson pickups.  Better quality and a lot less unwanted noise.  They're also 2 to 3 times the price.

[StaffK]

Bart, Alex & DD Thanks for your input. I have been playing with all the bits Different parameters etc thats all I`ve done for months lol copied tones watched youtube tutorials  adjusted to my set up but the sounds sound nothing like what the tracks do & yes I know most play throughs are studio recorded but some don`t even cut close. Just not on the understanding of a non standard input its a guitar pick ups wood etc lol not a kitten .. The footware gag was what the floorboard is at the mo. I`m not a troll or an eejut just someone tyring to get the damn thing doing what its supposed to be doing lol. Lee thanks again for your comment & Gear Head. I know line 6 are the budget muzos gear comparing price to kempers & axe fx but if something says pro you`re hoping for something like, just seems like a bit of misrepresentation. Its like me saying I`m a pro decorator but can only paint.. uh oh that is me lol

[FlyingSquirrel]

Sounds like you haven't dialed out the resonant frequency of your guitar with the PEQ.

[StaffK]

What would help guys is whats the best amp/power amp to use with what speakers to get the fuller sound, tbh its sounds tinny what ever I do & although some youtube vids are studio recorded some guys post there settings which sounds more like a sufers tone when the tracks hard rock or metal..

Samples of what I don`t sound like

[cruisinon2]

What would help guys is whats the best amp/power amp to use with what speakers to get the fuller sound, tbh its sounds tinny what ever I do & although some youtube vids are studio recorded some guys post there settings which sounds more like a sufers tone when the tracks hard rock or metal..

Samples of what I don`t sound like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmCl71e-wCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gYLfCTbJzw&list=RD9gYLfCTbJzw#t=10

Here's the rub...there is no "best" amp and cab to use. It's a frequently asked question, but one that's impossible to answer. Guys use the POD with gear from all over the map, with good results. There is no escaping the experimental phase, however. You just have to keep banging away at it until you hit on a combo of amp/mic/cab/output mode that suits you. It was frustrating for the overwhelming majority of us, initially. This is not a "plug & play" device. Doesn't mean the tones aren't in there...but you do have to find them yourself. There are WAAAAAAAAAAY more user-adjustable parameters on a modeler than on any "real" amp in existence. Takes some getting used to...

[joel_brown]

There is no "Best" amp or cab.  However the cab you're working with will require more and different EQ'ing than say an FRFR cab.  Believe me, I use a very similar cab and it took a lot of time to get it sounding right.  Where as an FRFR (Full Range Flat Response) system was easier for me to dial in.  The tones you're listening too are, more than likely, done with an FRFR system.

 

I think if you switch to a Kemper or AXE and run it through the same setup you're going to have very similar issues.

[cruisinon2]

I think if you switch to a Kemper or AXE and run it through the same setup you're going to have very similar issues.

It's a virtual certainty...

[StaffK]

There is no "Best" amp or cab.  However the cab you're working with will require more and different EQ'ing than say an FRFR cab.  Believe me, I use a very similar cab and it took a lot of time to get it sounding right.  Where as an FRFR (Full Range Flat Response) system was easier for me to dial in.  The tones you're listening too are, more than likely, done with an FRFR system.

 

I think if you switch to a Kemper or AXE and run it through the same setup you're going to have very similar issues.

You know something  Cruisinon2 Thats a great answer & tbh I think you,ve kinda hit the nail on the head. I use the old oberheim GM1000 as extras I`ve just added a 10 band eq in loop mode after the mixer put a bit more bass on as an outside source scooped the mids & its built up.. :)

[BBD_123]

You know something  Cruisinon2 Thats a great answer & tbh I think you,ve kinda hit the nail on the head. I use the old oberheim GM1000 as extras I`ve just added a 10 band eq in loop mode after the mixer put a bit more bass on as an outside source scooped the mids & its built up.. :)

 

Just start again, mate, from scratch :-) Seriously though - absolute bare minimum: POD -> power stage -> cab. No extras! Use the EQ in the POD and the model amp tone stack. I know it's a PITA, but less is *always* more when it comes to nailing tones.

 

I was born in Macclesfield, so you can trust me... Not quite a Yorkshireman, but I can live with that ;-)

[JTSC777]

My EMG guitars never sounded good with my HD500. I really enjoyed and used mine a lot but last week I traded it to a student of mine who bought a DT25 combo.I got a mint Squier Classic Vibe Tele he did not like for it.That is one hell of a great guitar.Now he can control his Dream Rig with the HD500 and I can enjoy the tele for an Eagles tribute thing I am doing.