Valith Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 HI everyone, I have been trying to connect an external distortion pedal and Chorus pedal to the effects loop of the Helix. It works, except it seems like the Distortion pedal makes a lot of noise, even when I try using a Noise Gate. Could I be placing the noise gate in the wrong order? The distortion pedal is a Wampler Triple Wreck pedal, chosrus pedal is a Dreamscape from T.C. Electronics. But I believe it has to be the external distortion pedal because if I turn off the external chorus, there is still a lot of noise coming from the Wampler Triple Wreck distortion. I am not sure if I just have the effects out of order or if I am just not placing the noise gate in the proper place in the chain. Here is how I have it setup: Volume Pedal->Effects loop (For distortion pedal and Chorus), Noise gate, Delay, Reverb. I have tried using a noise gate and a hard gate, but I cannot seem to make the Distortion pedal quiet. Can anyone offer some advice and/or solutions to my issue? I would sincerely appreciate it! Thank you everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I don't have any answers for you, but I'll be very interested to see what comes up here. I'm just beginning to look at adding pedals via the loops and I've read an awful lot about how noisy they are. Might end up just running the stuff pre-Helix if it's as bad as it's made out to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldStjohn Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I have a tripple-wreck pedal and they have a lot of gain so they can definitely make any noise more evident. Is the noise still present when you have the wampler bypassed? The noise gate should help but you will need to adjust the threshold until the noise goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruckingFuggle Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 One thing I've recently discovered is that for any pedals in the effects loops that add noise (overdrive, compressor, etc) I have to set the effect loop parameter "Trails" to off. Otherwise, even if the effect send block is bypassed the mixer still gets the signal from the pedal. You want the tails for verbs and delays to trail off naturally, but you don't want the nose and hiss from OD. Trails Off: Any delay repeats or reverb decays are instantly muted when the block is bypassed. Trails On: Any delay repeats or reverb decays continue to decay naturally when the block is bypassed or a different snapshot is selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requietus666 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 It's been discussed here. Happens the Helix has lower quality sends/returns jacks, and they are a lot noisier. And it is something a firmware updates will not fix. Fx loops become generally less noisy if inserted after an amp block in fx chain, but well... it varies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It's been discussed here. Happens the Helix has lower quality sends/returns jacks, and they are a lot noisier. And it is something a firmware updates will not fix. Fx loops become generally less noisy if inserted after an amp block in fx chain, but well... it varies.. ????? Link to that discussion, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requietus666 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 http://line6.com/support/topic/25377-very-noisy-fx-loops/?do=findComment&comment=204825 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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