jeremystern Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Hi, I am having a custom VDI cable made for me. Is it okay to use Cat6 or is there some reason to only use Cat5? Thanks! Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 CAT6 is the wrong frequency data rate band width,... use CAT5 or CAT5e. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Thanks a lot for the reply! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchulzeJ Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Sorry to contradict, but Cat 6 will work just fine. All the CATegories are downward compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 11:39 AM, psarkissian said: CAT6 is the wrong frequency data rate band width,... use CAT5 or CAT5e. Does it make a difference if it is shielded or unshielded? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 It's a normal thing to be shielded. If it's not, then it's cheap garbage. Makes no difference and is a moot point, since CAT6 use with our product is the wrong cable to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, psarkissian said: It's a normal thing to be shielded. If it's not, then it's cheap garbage. Makes no difference and is a moot point, since CAT6 use with our product is the wrong cable to begin with. Great! Thanks so much for the quick and thorough replies. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Should just get a normal VDI cable, since it's designed just for that. CAT5 and CAT5e is normally for the FBV Floorboard connections, or for use interfacing to Monkey and Workbench HD. VDI cable is for playing thru. Don't go beyond 25ft as impedance starts to play a bigger role in performance beyond that length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 I would like to have the Ethercon connectors on each end to connect the JTV to the Helix. Doesn't that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Yes. The Ethercon Canon casings make for good lock. Jiggling and loose connections can cause transient on the lines that can damage circuitry in the guitars. It would be easier and less time consuming to get a VDI from the music store, rather than making one yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 I can't seem to find this on the Line 6 site. Is this something I can buy from you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, jeremystern said: I can't seem to find this on the Line 6 site. Is this something I can buy from you guys? https://shop.line6.com/accessories/guitar-accessories/variax-digital-cable.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 20 hours ago, phil_m said: https://shop.line6.com/accessories/guitar-accessories/variax-digital-cable.html Thanks, Phil, but that page no longer works and I can't find it anywhere on the line6 site. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, jeremystern said: Thanks, Phil, but that page no longer works and I can't find it anywhere on the line6 site. Any ideas? By "no longer works", what do you mean exactly? I double-checked, and even if I'm signed out, it still shows up for me. Here's what I see: Are you somewhere other than the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 That's so strange...I get a 404 error on all browsers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Anyway, the VDI cable should be available from any Line 6 dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Thanks a lot for your help. I guess the issue is I am in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 In Canada, Yorkville or Long and McQuade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, psarkissian said: In Canada, Yorkville or Long and McQuade. Thanks! I'm on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 10:03 AM, SchulzeJ said: Sorry to contradict, but Cat 6 will work just fine. All the CATegories are downward compatible. In a computer world you are right, but a Variax is NOT ethernet and neither are other Line 6 products. They just re-purpose CAT 5 for their own products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 3 hours ago, codamedia said: In a computer world you are right, but a Variax is NOT ethernet and neither are other Line 6 products. They just re-purpose CAT 5 for their own products. That's what I thought, too. I trust psarkissian! :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 SchulzeJ,... yes, up to a point. It has to do with the frequency/bit rate of the application. Since this is such a topic here, I have chats about this every year at the trade show and through social media with my pal Steve Lampen of Belden Cable,... he writes books on this stuff, and confirms the info I bring here. Along with CAT6 and CAT7 performing poorly with our gear, because our gear runs outside the optimum frequency bandwidth of those cables. There are subtle differences between the three CAT's and that makes all the difference. CAT5, CAT5e are the ones to use with our gear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Try here if you're still interested in an official Variax cable https://www.amazon.com/Line-Variax-Digital-Interface-Cable/dp/B000JLMXSC/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=variax+cable&link_code=qs&qid=1557511489&s=gateway&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremystern Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, brue58ski said: Try here if you're still interested in an official Variax cable https://www.amazon.com/Line-Variax-Digital-Interface-Cable/dp/B000JLMXSC/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=variax+cable&link_code=qs&qid=1557511489&s=gateway&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-2 Thanks, brue58ski. I bought this one instead because its 3 meters (I didn't need/want 25 feet) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C5G3AQM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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