magnusf27 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Are there any difference between the first JTV Variaxes vs those last ones in terms of quality and firmware (I guess the latter shouldn't be an issue as you should be able to upgrade all the way)? I have come across a used JTV-69 from 2010 so think I will go ahead if it's no issues buying those first batches. I have already a 700 but can't use Workbench now as the old Workbench is not compatible with Win 10 and I think the acoustic sounds are slightly better on the JTV as well (+ look of course). Other considerations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 11:21 AM, magnusf27 said: Other considerations? Only that it's an 12-ish year old product at this point, for which there have been no updates of any significance since 2014 or so. Stand by for someone to chime in with "there have been more recent updates than that!"... and while technically true, they've only been minor bug fixes, and the addressing of compatibility issues with Workbench for the Standards, which were introduced later. In terms of modeled sounds or functionality, there's been nothing genuinely new in Variax Land for nearly 8 years (an eternity in today's techno-world), so the current versions are clearly no longer being developed. Smart money says that the next iteration, whatever it may be, is probably not far off... exactly when is anybody's guess, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusf27 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, cruisinon2 said: Only that it's an 12-ish year old at this point that has seen no updates of any significance since 2014 or so. Stand by for someone to chime in with "there have been more recent updates than that!"... but they've only been minor bug fixes, and addressing compatibility issues with Workbench for the Standards, which were introduced later. There's been nothing genuinely new in Variax Land for nearly 8 years. Smart says that the next iteration, whatever it may be, is probably not far off... exactly when is anybody's guess, of course. Thanks a lot for the input I suspected something like this as well and I don't think I'll buy the a new Variax or whatever a future similar guitar will be called, as it's really a bit to splash out, even for an used one, for a concept you already own and only for the luxury of being able to use the Workbench and slightly better acoustic sounds which after will you will not be able to hear the difference in a mix. Of course the playability also favours the JTV slightly though as far as I can figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 -No portability of Models between old and current Variax. -May have a 1st generation bridge, so be certain there is a tremolo bar with it, as there are no more replacements. Gave the last one to Sinbad. Current bridge is 3rd generation, a change in how the piezo cable is routed to the main board. -Current fret end dressing spec was implemented in 2012. -Firmware updated,... after v2.00 it became HD series of product compatible, so it communicates more smoothly with HD products. -Main board version was updated for hardware in 2012. Have a JTV-69 from 2010 myself, and it's been just fine, no problems. Keep it maintained and Firmware up to date, it's great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusf27 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, psarkissian said: -No of Models between old and current Variax. -May have a 1st generation bridge, so be certain there is a tremolo bar with it, as there are no more replacements. Gave the last one to Sinbad. Current bridge is 3rd generation, in how the piezo cable is routed to the main board. -Current fret end dressing spec was implemented in 2012. -Firmware updated,... after v2.00 it became HD series of compatible, so it communicates more smoothly with HD products. -Main board version was updated for hardware in 2012. Have a JTV-69 from 2010 myself, and it's been just fine, no problems. Keep it maintained and Firmware up to date, it's great. Great input this thanks a lot. Especially the tremolo bar point would for sure never have asked about it if not for this :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-valentini Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Hi all, I bought used jtv-69 W11070070, will it work with Workbench HD and win 10 ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 9:14 AM, m-valentini said: Hi all, I bought used jtv-69 W11070070, will it work with Workbench HD and win 10 ...? Yes. The JTV series uses Workbench HD and it runs fine on Win10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 @m-valentini Yes. Connect the JTV-69 to Monkey and update to v2.00 or higher, and it will run Workbench HD with your Variax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-valentini Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 5:37 PM, psarkissian said: @m-valentini Yes. Connect the JTV-69 to Monkey and update to v2.00 or higher, and it will run Workbench HD with your Variax. Thanks for the answer .... which model of USB interface do you need, the black one or the transparent one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 @m-valentini Either should work, but the black one is the most current version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-valentini Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 24/3/2022 at 19:39, psarkissian said: @m-valentini Entrambi dovrebbero funzionare, ma quella nera è la versione più recente. Thank you ..... you have been very kind! (sorry but I use google translate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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magnusf27 Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 So I was too late for this one but have another one at hand which I believe is dated from April 2012? It has the S/N W1204XXXX. Does this have the 3rd or the 2nd generation bridge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2nd generation bridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor4jc-2 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 8:33 AM, psarkissian said: 2nd generation bridge. What about one with the S/N W1112XXXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 First or second, that's within a transition period. Do you have a photo of the bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine7542wil Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 There may be some differences between the first JTV Variax guitars and later models in terms of quality and firmware. However, it is worth noting that the JTV Variax line has been discontinued by Line6, the manufacturer. It is possible that firmware updates are no longer being released, and older models may not be compatible with newer software or operating systems. The quality of the guitar itself may also be affected by age and wear and tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 3:21 AM, catherine7542wil said: There may be some differences between the first JTV Variax guitars and later models in terms of quality and firmware. However, it is worth noting that the JTV Variax line has been discontinued by Line6, the manufacturer. It is possible that firmware updates are no longer being released, and older models may not be compatible with newer software or operating systems. The quality of the guitar itself may also be affected by age and wear and tear. I'm really sure they have not been discontinued. They are just hard to get. Partly because of all of the shipping issues these days. It has been described as a passion of the heart or something like that by a Line 6 rep. I can't remember who. So it sounds like they are not flying off of the shelves but Line 6 is still cranking them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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