Please Line 6, Split the stereo OUT!

[cesarelik]

Hello everyone,As a bassist I don't need stereo OUT.

I'd really like the opportunity to split outs; When I play On big stages I'd like to have cab sim on a channel to send to Mixer and the other one to my amp. Now I have to do this turnaurund but it's a waste of blocks for me. Please Line 6, listen to Mono Bass Players too!

[rd2rk]

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Search first so as not to dilute the vote.

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[brue58ski]

If you take the beginning node at your split point and click & drag it down to path B, it will turn into it's own separate input. So you could have 4 separate inputs. The same thing will happen if you drag the last node at your split to path B. It will turn into it's own output. This is using HX Edit on the computer. Not sure how to do it directly from the unit. See page 20 in the Helix manual. This is for the full Helix. That looks like it could be the HX Stomp. Not sure if that does the same thing. I found something on page 18  of the HX manual relating to this. You are basically creating a parallel path and it talks about it there. You could set it up with just the nodes and save it. you could then use the patch as a template. Hope this helps.

[datacommando]

On 6/9/2023 at 4:40 PM, cesarelik said:

Hello everyone,As a bassist I don't need stereo OUT.

I'd really like the opportunity to split outs; When I play On big stages I'd like to have cab sim on a channel to send to Mixer and the other one to my amp. Now I have to do this turnaurund but it's a waste of blocks for me. Please Line 6, listen to Mono Bass Players too!

 

Hi,

 

I am not entirely sure I understand what the problem is here, and your screen shot of the HX Edit preset is even more confusing to me. I have no idea why you have a Return block first and a Send block at the end. I also don't know what HX unit you are using or the the models which are in your Amp, Mod and Cab blocks. 

 

Anyhow, using what I can see in your setup I have made this preset (Bass 2 x Mono) with 2 different Mono outputs:-

 

Guitar In > Return 1 > Amp (Ampeg B15-NF) > FX Loop > Mod (Ampeg Liquifier mono) > Split Y > Path 1A > 1/4' Out + Path 1B > Cab (1x15 Ampeg b-15) > Send 1 > XLR Out.

 

Connect a 1/4" Jack from the Left output to your amplifier input, and the XLR Left out is the send to the Mixer. NOTE: the left outputs are mono by default. and you can collapse any path to mono by simply placing a mono block last in the path, for example a Mono Gain Block.

 

Play around with this until it works how you need it.

 

Bass 2 x Mono.hlx

 

[PierM]

You can do already what you are asking. IIRC there is even a template for that in the stock presets...

 

EDIT: nevermind, dataninjacommando already gave you a working preset. :)

[lou-kash]

On 6/10/2023 at 6:00 PM, datacommando said:

don't know what HX unit you are using

 

Looks like a Stomp to me.

 

On 6/9/2023 at 5:40 PM, cesarelik said:

As a bassist I don't need stereo OUT

 

Yep, we don't need, and we don't have to.

The Mixer block's Panorama sliders are your friends.

 

I, for one, prefer to use the Send output into my stage amp because I don't use any third party effects in the fx loop anyway, thus I have plenty of I/O options to waste…

 

So my standard bass block path goes currently like this:

Autofilter (footswitch) > Optocomp (always on) > SVT-4 amp (because it has lots of EQ options built in to fiddle with) > Chorus (footswitch) > Y split (also works with A/B, but for me it doesn't matter) > A: Dual Cab 4×10" & 15" (mono) // B: Parametric EQ (optional) > A: Main Out // B: Send

(I still have two blocks free, hehe)

 

On the Stomp, the main outputs are balanced, so all I need is TRS-to-XLR adapter and the Stomp acts like a DI box directly into the PA; for this, the output must be set to Instrument level, of course.

The Send goes into whatever power amp input (!) and cab I happen to have on stage. Just last Saturday I had the opportunity to use a nice – but heavy – GK amp/cab, but usually I'm fine with my SWR Workingman's 12 combo as my stage monitor. The optional EQ in the B path can then compensate for any sonic oddities on the Send output as the latter is not affected by the global EQ.

 

Then I also have 3 snapshots: 1) amp + cab, 2) amp only, 3) effects only. So this single preset can handle virtually any bass guitar situation I encounter. (With the exception of my old acoustic fretless Eko bass which has a very "picky" pickup that needs, er… "special treatment".)

 

Doing this since 3 years now. Electric and acoustic basses, fretted and – mostly – fretless. And in some bands also guitars. And with one band also my self-built foot stomp "bass drum" plank goes through the Stomp, but that again requires a special preset just for this setup.

In general, it just works. :)

[codamedia]

On 6/9/2023 at 10:40 AM, cesarelik said:

Hello everyone,As a bassist I don't need stereo OUT.

I'd really like the opportunity to split outs; When I play On big stages I'd like to have cab sim on a channel to send to Mixer and the other one to my amp. Now I have to do this turnaurund but it's a waste of blocks for me. Please Line 6, listen to Mono Bass Players too!

 

 

Your image holds the answer.... the ability is there (Pan) but you overlooked it. 

 

Remove the Send Block, then in the mixer/merge...

• A Pan Hard Left
• B Pan Hard Right
• Place B volume back to normal

Voila! Left out to the Amp.... Right out to the PA.

 

NOTE: I don't have my Stomp with me at the moment, but I think you could also delete the mixer/merge block... the B line will go straight to an output, then you can choose each output individually.