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Between your amp and mixer you have to different paths A and B (this is why two lines goes out out amp and enters mixer) You should put evry electric guitar related fx on path A (top line) pan it hard left for example and connect left output on dedicated channel Same for path B but right pan and output As said by Hugarnico, do not put fx after mixer to avoid channel sum up This should do the job
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Haha :) I believe you understood pre eq usage i've described in my post ^^ But distortion pedal are something used after amp, like screamer to focus the sound
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I found that using overdrive pedal before amp give, for me, the best results, with no post eq. Struggling with pre eq and post eq and double post eq, i've tried the simplest one and tweak it at maximum. I try never over saturate amp, 30 on drive, and for high gain a screamer before This way you can darken the sound a bit with screamer tone control, experiment drive and output combination on overdrive this give great combination. And you can use overdrive pedal eq to position your sound, reducing bass a bit for clarity. On the other hand you can drive an overdrive before amp a lot, without having proportional impact on hiss and fizz ^^ Same for eq on amp try never going to far from noon, using presence for the grittle in sound in a pa (with low cut on cab at 120hz) or direct in a power amp, this give cool sounds
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Hello Is your tube yamp midi capable ? This case you can store a midi control for each patch sending a midi change message... Or a friend of mine used a midi box converting midi control in footswitch routing
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To share my experience EHX 44 Magnum is great for rehearsal, gigging, and of course miced. Nice sounding full, not solid state fizzy sound sometimes excepected or feared. Good for the buzz effect woaw... this noise with this small piece of gear !!!!! Loud enough to cover an acoustic drum, and more really astonishing Rocktron velocity, i have one too and it's lolipop great amp, even too powerfull it can kill everyone... I add my question how do you setup you amp and signal chanin for poweramp and cab use ? I've struggle longly with this configuration and found recently that using full amp + not cab + a studio eq with a +12DB boost at 150hz and + 6db boost at 8k, is to me the only solution to produce a tube amp like feeling . I mean having a bodied and full sound, with high projection as a normal amp does. Did you noticed the same ?
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I do use either Rocktron velocity or EHX 44 magnum and both are pretty nice Even for gigging !!! I promote my band in the same time :D
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and for those pushing pod hd disto stomp realy high don't you notice an artificial low mid texture , it hard to explain in phonetic this souns like a nasal grrrrrrrrr plastic sound I had this with Treadplate brit j800 , this disappear when lowering output volume on stomp Nowadays i ends up using classic dist at 40% drive or a bit more and 30% volume, in fact i try to set the volume to a point it doesn't change volume level when on offed and add some dirt with drive.
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Based on discussion , it leads to an idea, mine (pod) behave the same if i switch it off with asio based apps open, i get a nice blue screen check USB power management, this could easily cause BSOD ( http://www.devicedriverfinder.com/blog/device-drivers/how-to-disable-power-management-for-usb-root-hubs ) Uncheck it like in screenshot ***I If this do not work , update driver, not using device manager (these are microsoft one, and not so good) go to your laptop vendor site and download package from there Motherboard Graphic Usb would be the most BSOD generator to update Hope it helps
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Hi all A question i have following my experimentation , how do you set disto or overdrive before amp ? i' ve tend to think and i was wrong ifeel, that you put it at high level to boost amp but in a pod it result in what i call the plastic thing , a grrrrrrr sound in mid , very ugly Trying to optimize my setting i've lowered stomp volume and even set volume so low that it decrease input volume , and pushing drive higher , this seems to give more natural sounding. what's your experience ?
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A conflicting driver for sure, but it's hard to find which one Do you tried to find motherboard drivers update for your laptop ? Grapic card driver are often good at BSOD. If you have several USB port check them all, sometimes computer have different USB controller with different IRQ access to the system so different behaviour can happen Several topics exists on this issue on the forum
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Tribute rulessss !! Yes i do this playing music on my power speaker and rehearsing My point was to figure out the "distance" between a FRFR preset and a guitar power amp + cab preset cause i 'm for example using mid focus to cut bass, using an hih Q 65% or 70% to give a big boost on low mid/bass , sound is pretty nice like this plugged in guitar amp
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Lack of clean amps on HD500x - How to get good clean sounds on HD500x?
kpsion replied to fabiovictorio's topic in POD HD
to move forward in Psmith0 suggestion Set input at guitar+variax Put a mono effect in pre section (noise gate or eq, , or drive.... not drive :) ) and amp in pathA you still have phisical padding to lower input, this would be the lower input setup after you can low down volume before this amp but this could become really weak- 24 replies
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You're welcome I believe i was wrong on POD routing , maybe Power User will confirm or not routing is pre is Dual mono splitted in 2 stereo PATH mixed down to stereo This details is important because with input1 set to guitar and input2 let's say whatever but not same, nothing will be sent to pathB
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That is why i've headed my opinion with Personnaly :D I've tried Live cab , and never noticed a significant value added, it gives some good result (using XXXL Treadplate) scooping a cab, but globally this is not masterable as real cab behind will tint the sound so much. Even technicaly i don't believe this feature as How can you mimic a cab (applying eq) on a real cab you do not know frequency response, usabe with flat response cab, but very pronounced ones will give surprising result. After of course it's just a matter a taste, needs, feeling, I agree , i struggled so long with my pod to agree that everyone has to find what works with his gear and perception. :D @D_sic3 No you can't stereo to mono and so on , in fact routing in POD is 1 stereo path spitted in 2 stereo PATH A/B then mixed in 1 stereo path to output So monoing Path A to left and Path B to right will resut after the mixer to the same so if you apply stereo delay after the mixer you 'll hear in laney IRT Left settings of echo and in power amp + cab Right setting of echo If you use mono effect you 'll hear Lany IRT preamp and Amp sim (PathB .) on both amp/output I hope i'm clear :)
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For compressor or mono stomp , it's in the four location in pre section on the left in picture It's used to avoid using "same" input value that dupicate your guitar input and resend it in pathB, it tends to create phase problem on input signal. For comp , i would say the one you prefer :) , if you do not feel the need to reboost the signal you don't need, i often use tube comp at 80% Thresold and 10% gain For overtones stuff : if you have 2 channel A and B with different amp and tones, panning 75% one channel will melt A and B to create a new tone, with distortion it help having a fatter sound , like guitar layering during recording For output setting : If you do not define a cab in path B where you want to put an amp sim, both works and are equivalent with a cab defined , studio direct will provide you with the cab emulation going through power amp and cab, personnay i don't use cause you already go through a guitar cab stack power amp will disable cab emulation and provide live cab (an equalisation based on cab choosen) personnaly i don't use due to the fact it's a cab equalization going ...... through another cab.... useless A key point in the config you want to achieve is not putting effect after the mixer cause this is what separate both channel. Adding a mono effect will remix both path on both output, and stereo one (like stereo delay) will have one half per channel
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And i would add using mixer panning to mix a bit both path on both amp could be nice in a second time to achieve overtone
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Yes you can achieve this panning hard left and right both path in mixer, so path are isolated on their own output I would say Input setting = same Pre section : nothing PathA : stomps and whatever you need -> FX Loop -> Mixer 100% left PathB : stomps and whatever you need -> Amp sim -> mixer 100% right Stereo effect are ony possible so, if you place it after mixer and then make it spread on both amp An alternate solution is possible with Input : guitar +variax Inserting the first stomp (not stereo) in pre section, a noise gate can be placed before path routing (separation), input will be a bit lowered due to signal split, a commpressor can help reboost if needed
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during rehearsal yesterday i got the answer, and i was f******g happy, i got a killer Metallica tone (i'm in a Metallica tribute band) My sound was so powerfull , full , present that my mate tube amp seems thin I definetly conclude that by default and for studio stuff pod hd has a way too wide spectrum , too much sub bass and high and that as a preamp usage you need to compensate bringing the bass part of the sound up (700hz) and scooping + cutting mid and high (after 2KZ) I use mid focus after the amp : HP: around 20% HQ 65 , LP 60 LQ 35 Gain 0 if that can help ...
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I use this configuration with a power amp, and would recommend full amp (no cab set) Full seems lightly darker (but it's subtle) and this can be eq , but add some interesting parameter like sag aka compression, master aka more distortion or less Using Pre version seems to me more hissy with the plastic shrill in mid high Just my thoughts
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For latency it's strange , i've tried this and do not noticed latency on fx loop AD/DA conversion Maybe your stomp add latency, but several having same behaviour would be surpising
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Noticed the same I changed to blackface clean amp full to get enough sound, even a tube comp before mixer (threshold 80%, gain 15%) After to tweak disto sound , i take the habit to lower master to 30, so this help to evenly setup volume
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Ouch maybe i dreamt but i've seen an answer from Hurghanico too ... strange Yes Pianoguy, i agree , and having various cab in rehearsal studio and different power amp i noticed. To refine my question i would say : comparing your FRFR preset using cab and Power amp + guitar cab preset, do you feel preset for guitar cab , needs to have a most pronounced equing with plenty of low mid , not much mid and high, to achevie a tube like or real amp sound in this situation ?
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Hi all I've a question, i'm struggling with my pod for 2 years now, and i feel i reached very close what a tube amp do. I've tried recently to plug my pod in my bugera power amp section to compare sound body, fullness and tweak. As result i end up, modifiy my disto patch to a super powerfull disto sound when i replug it in an FRFR system. Big bass scoopped mid (due to bass boost) But nice. I use Full amp , no cab and depending parametric eq or mid focused for amp post equing + plus stomp box blabla On FRFR my post eq would be midrange one cut at 17 Q:50 Hcut:70 HQ : 40 On poweramp : same eq would be LCut: 17 LQ: 70(for bass boost) Hcut 70, HQ 50 My question purpose is too understand the difference between FRFR and Power amp+ cab config Do you also, noticed or use such different EQ based on rig behind ?
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Hey nice explanation from spaceatl, thx that wht the feeling it have without understanding this huge tube amp presence in a room, facing solidstate I've tried several solution, first FRFR rig with EV ZLX12P, nice sound , lightweight but not for loud band (i'm in a stoner one with 2 guitar), i use it at home for tweaking, music... Rocktron velocity 300 , really good and loud this blow away every 50watt tube amp and compete 100w tube, and their reactance and defintion setting work fine to recreate tube amp feeling. This amp is almost flat , neutral, but lack a bit of life , the tube mojo stuff, still have and use it . Tried a Peavey classic 50/50 , this bring pod HD to life, loud neutral , sound instantly become more focused like a real guitar amp, still have and use it. ; Tried in a bugera 333XL power amp, pretty much same result peavy classic 50/50. Now i've ordered an Electro harmonix magnum 44 poweramp , for practising mainly , still awaiting my order My recommendation would be : verify it's pretty much neutral, some power amp really tint the sound could be good or bad, and yes enough headroom
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An answer is given here At 5:25 you 'll see the spectrum of a 4*12 I'm using the config you're talking about, plus building preset on FRFR system (ev ZLX12P) cab vary a lot and some sound great in POD HD in stack output mode with power amp Marschall 1960a sound good Marschall DSL .... i don't know , cheap one not too bad but boomy Brunetti cab harsch V30 celestion cab no bad but i would say a bit too harsh . I agree GT12 seems to mask fizzy midsy harsch stuff on POD HD