capdoogie
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Since running a di box from the 1/4 outs seems to be the way to make sure you get all the benefits of no hum, no white noise with volume pedal off, no phantom power problems if board can't turn individual channels off, etc.... I will be taking from a couple of posters above hybrid system. Helix>1/4out to di box then xlr out of di to FOH. Then I will run from the di thru 1/4 out to ews subtle volume pedal to second DI box> xlr out to my own monitor put in front of me to hear my self play on stage or in back either way. Sometimes were limited on wedges on stage. So now I can send a perfect noise free signal to FOH and then noise free signal controllable by ews volume pedal to easily raise or lower my personal monitor without bending down behind it. I'll report back how it works.
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I use line 6 exp pedal. Not to bad works seamless but feels small
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Change the volume pedal to logarithmic.
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I'm using the Helix connected to a L2T via L6link for my feedback that I manage with the "Volume" knob and XLR output connected to mixer/PA an let the sound engineer manage it. That's works perfect for me. Ge31, are you running line level or mic level thru your xlr out?
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Calling all play out live helix owners only! Please use this thread to post how you run to FOH, I.e. Xlr out, 1/4 out, etc. DI boxes? Do you isolate the volume knob to a specific output. Any -db pads for xlr output volume. do you run a dedicated monitor for your self how is that set up. What kinda pitfalls have you found. This is to help all of us that play out live to not have a bad first gig with the helix.
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I forgot to add.....when FOH mixer board is set to mic white noise is there when helix xlr out is set to line, when FOH channel is set to line no noise. At least on the boards I have come across
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Next test will be different live setups. 1) Helix>1/4 out>DI>monitor thru to FOH. 2) helix>1/4 out>monitor, xlr>FOH. On #2 I will try xlr not coupled to volume knob and coupled. Hopefully by this weekend I will have results, I will also put in xlr output a phantom blocker to see how that works. Will report my findings.
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The sound board is above my pay grade level. But, I usually tell who ever is running it to turn my eq's flat and my gain down, phantom power off to start. then I walk out in front of the mains and play to see what I need tone wise.
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So go figure Mars and Jupiter must be in alignment. After days of fiddling the white noise is gone. Who knows why, bad ions? But one thing I have noticed make sure FOH board is set to line level and phantom power is off. Or your in for a rough gig.
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So here is more live setup info. There is a slight white noise I believe in all these helix using xlr out. I have two friends that also here it from there helix. Now like said before very very slight and goes away or is hidden when you start playing . Now in a live bar or something that is noisy no biggy, but in a worship church setting this is not good. I've tried line and mic level out of xlr and no change in noise. Like peterhamm said above the only way around this that I can see is helix to di to monitor thru to FOH or run a splitter after the di box like a radial js2 then one line to your monitor and one to FOH. The other thing that is a pain and maybe I don't have the full grasp is when you turn off the volume knob to xlr the volume put out is way to high for the boards I've been thru. So, then you have to go back and turn down all outputs sometimes -20db. But then your volume to your 1/4 out is messed so your now turning it up via your volume knob. A big fat circle of doom. Lol. I also have found that running a di box from the 1/4 inch cables sounds better. IMO. more unscientific study to come
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Thanks Peter, I knew I wasn't going crazy! Ok maybe a little..
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No, ground lift does not help slight hiss. I think we all have it, to some degree. Mine is very slight you have to get close to monitor to here it from xlr outs. I know others to have it pretty bad. But, the 1/4 outs thru di box dead silent! L6 link might be great as well but I haven't tried that yet.
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With other posters here having problems with hiss or static of some sort out of xlr main outs I decided to see what gives. When I hook up left mono xlr out direct to monitor and it doesn't matter which one I tried there was a very slight hiss white noise and I mean slight. I did this to take the mixer FOH boards out of the equation. Now when I added the FOH mixer in, the hiss was the same depending on gain levels and eq's added. Now if you turn phantom on or your board has permanent phantom power hiss gets louder/bad. Some on this site have used phantom blockers to eliminate this problem. Mines on order to see if this even helps the slight hiss when no phantom power is on. Ok, so then I hooked up a 1/4 inch cable to the left mono 1/4 inch out on helix, then connected other end to radial eng. pro di box then xlr out to monitor or FOH mixer and NO HISS, SILENT! And no tone degregation. What gives? Why is the xlr outputs putting out a very very slight hiss. Maybe someone else has more to offer on this helix anomaly. I will be running my 1/4 direct box from now on for live or even in house playing... Untill line 6 fixes this.
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Let us know how your l2t works for you and how your presets sound thru FOH with setting them up with your l2t
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Exactly, just options!
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Or the long way of deleting each block and start over.
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Duncann, your the man! Now my wah works with the exp on helix and my volume is controllable all the time. Thnx
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I believe every or almost every factory preset has looper block. You have to delete each one in each preset
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Fukuri, did you get the hard case novo32, just wondering if the helix on the pedal train fits in the hard case?
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Sometimes you want yo have wah on and set it for a specific tone then use your ext volume pedal for volume swells.
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Well, I really want to be able to have the volume controllable via the exp pedal on helix or external add on and also be able to turn wah on and off via toe switch without it effecting the volume on off.
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Hmm ok, I'll give it a try. but I thought when you toe switch the helix pedal it will activate the wah expression but disconnect volume control from your helix volume pedal. Hopefully I'm wrong
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Ok, so I hooked up a line 6 expression pedal to exp 2. I have volume block and wah block. When I click down to activate wah on helix built in pedal, wah turns on and volume pedal deactivates. When I click down again volume turns back on and wah turns off. My question, is there any way to keep the volume on and workable all the time regardless of wah on or off?
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Ok. I stand corrected. Yes, there is a delay between presets, but as Glenn and others have said you can have everything you need for a song or even a couple of like songs within one preset. Seemless that way.