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Seeing a lot of cool immediately usable workflow uses with this update. I'm most excited about the Harmonic Antagonizer model. WOW. I also preordered the POD Go for the more-than-often warm up and cover gig stuff including ease of fit in a carryon. Be interesting to see if the product updates coincide. But I'm not bitching.

I know, for me, the sounds are fine/great out of the Helix already. I don't need/want to change that at all. My basic tones haven't changed that dramatically. If I can get a more portable solution for the growing number of sit in or quick set up situations I see then its a perfect complement. Still depends on the sound and if the tweakability is enough that the lack of that deep diving isn't a distraction.

That looks like a perfect quick, direct, portable, gig solution which is what I was looking for recently. I'm onboard. No XLR but they are balanced outputs so thats an available cable solution going into a snake/digi-mix box etc. Less tweakability which is fine-hopefully at least sag made the amp tweak list but can get around that. The models are based on HX and legacy stuff which is great. Would be OK without the expression pedal to easily use an outboard one but thats OK. Remains to be seen what it sounds like. 9VDC power supply so hopefully One-spot compatible, etc. ...Take my money.

I think there is more area to trim here. Lose the big knob ( I replaced mine on my Helix Floor with a Phones knob I bought as parts as an example) . Tighten up the switches, Make the Mode/Tap buttons cycle between Bank up/down or snapshot on long-press and you'd lose 1.5"+ on the depth. Put the PS on a wall wart and the height/weight would decrease a lot. I love my floor and love how it works during a gig and set up but its a beast to cart around. Form factor wise my RP500 was the best product I ever gigged with - sonic limitations aside.

It does seem like an unprecedented amount of big words. "Biomimetic" loosely means using natural / biophysical construct and modeling it for a human purpose. Again, a loose and probably not entirely correct definition but this seems like the work of a marketing intern that changed their major after their freshman year of chemical engineering or biology, etc. If is it related, they haven't really explained or I missed what in the natural world is modeled for its architechure. I don't think I'd make the leap that a Fender Bassman appears in nature.

I wanted to do a similar thing. This doesn't work. Native doesn't show / recognize any MIDI IN in its status even when you can get something to work. I had to add a separate manual Helix "Control Surface" in Studio One to get it to recognize automation commands with the "Knobs/switches" thing in Native. Very convoluted. Trying to drag the hand into the VST window yields an "unavailable" symbol. Other VSTs (At least the ones I tried) are able to work in S1 as intended ( assigning CC#, MIDI learn, Etc).

I read and followed the update process and it worked fine. One of the bugs had me contemplating rolling back so I wouldn't have to redo a bunch of patches I gig with but I got around it and I don't gig that much anymore anyway so it was an easier decision. I do agree with a previous comment that instructions may have been difficult for those that were not native English speaking. Also, the tongue-in cheek style of the writer of the instructions doesn't seem to be a pure "technical writer" but probably the product lead for what seems like a very small team that has multiple duties. While I'm also surprised there wasn't a full install package rolled out versus having to separately update Edit, Native, Updater(Firmware), many may do this process without really using the editor - or have Native, etc, etc. Pulling it apart maybe assures they get the full base and covers the possibilities how everyone uses this product and maybe single owners of multiple children of the product? Regardless, the new toys were never a guarantee when you put your money down. You don't have a contract up front that says "Line 6 will hereby provide said user with 4 new amps and 10 new features a year upon receipt of your dough" I'm definitely not a fanboy. I use this this equally as some other similarly featured multi-effects and gig with different stuff based on how I'm feeling to express myself. But I've got a ton of stuff that "is what it is" when you get it and thats it. I'm thankful they're giving me a choice to extend the life of the product if I want to.

Thanks. I tried teh shorten name, replaced "-" with "_". I did already have them all in order in W10 so I'm not concerned about them not going back where they belong but its a weird thing. I will say that in Windows, there is a title to the wav file that is the original file name that seems like it may also need to be renamed. Which is *ugh* but at least they will load back in thesame order OK regardless of name.

I have a bunch of IR's loaded. I don't use a lot of them but loaded a bunch that seemed like good reference point for me to load up depending on teh patch I'm making etc. If I gig, I tend to use very few amps so sound doesnt have to chase me in the mix. But I wanted to rename my IR's to put a number in front so my windows and HX edit directories are in the same order for the patches I have that use them don't get scrambled. For some reason, what I've renamed in Windows ( whcih was far easier and quicker in W10 versus in HX edit) will not show up in HX edit as this renamed IR when I've tried to reload over the old IR. Anyone know why this is and what you need to do to get that result? Seems odd...

I went the modelling route years ago. I was always struck by how much room each of the devices I had allowed me to find new tones and explore different process categories, etc. It was also an ease of use thing for gigging a cover set. However, everything before the Helix was always just a "good enough" tone to gig with while the Helix, with my 2 Alto 210's, provides an excellent, comparable, but not exact, amp experience ( Peavey Classic 30 / Fender Deluxe Reverb) but it took a while to get that EQ right and that seems squarely at the delivery system vs. the actual modelling. (Amps have wood and directional cone vs a polypropyene cabinet and FR speaker system etc). Long story short, the amps have been solidly gathering dust since I got the thing.

I've mostly used the Helix in a dual rig setup. (Bass and guitar at the same time - Bass via instrument out to Amp and that to FOH and Guitar direct to FOH, backup mic separate). I'm working on a new project where I use the Helix for 2 paths for acoustic duo effects and a path for a backup singer process. From a footprint standpoint, I feel like the percentage of people using the I/O like I do is a minority. I don't play huge stages, etc, so when I've just going to use the Helix as just a guitar processor, it feels like its taking up a lot of real estate BUT the UI/scribbles etc is so comfortable that feeling goes away during soundcheck. It'd be interesting to see what the form factor would look like by making an 8-10 switch layout, plus the treadle, a smaller screen, scribbles, and the power supply on a wall wart. Kinda like the HXeffects but a bit more. I tried the Gt1000 out of intrigue on its size and it seems more manageable" but that feels like a 499 product and not a 999 product. It also felt clostrophobic getting around it. I used an RP500 for a long time direct to FOH and had a separate full bass rig. That was extremely manageable and compact. I had to live with certain effect paths, obviously, but for a cover thing it was fine. It'd be interesting to see a form factor like the RP500 where you have a screen in the middle of the unit (where the parameter label is now on the RP) and some encoders (knobs) under the screen and a few footswitches on either side for up down/tuner/tap control, etc and scribbles on the bottom 5 footswitches. I'm not sure how much the PS is inside the Helix Floor but removing that to a wall wart could be looked at too, but I do love the fact I don't need one of those with the Helix now.

I'm looking to replicate this effect from Boss. There's an interesting analogish decay in the modulation occuring as well as a bit of saturation that I can't seem to replicate on the Helix. Wondering if anyone has tried to replicate this wonderful effect successfully. the Cosmos eche is kinda in the realm but not really the same thing.

I have a couple of Alto 10" FRFR's that are plenty loud and work great as either one (coffe house), or in stereo ( pub). I also use them as electric/acoustic monitors for full band gigs. Your setup seems cool. I will use the Helix Floor for Acoustic but mostly for duo situations. I figured out how to add a couple mini expressions so I have 3 pedals to do volume mix between my voice, my partners voice( input to Effect loop), and his guitar. My guitar I adjust with my ongboard volume. Sounds good. I will say though, that I have a Boss VE-8 which is a one and done guitar and vocal solution that I use with one Alto and is awesome for solo shows - which are usually very small anyway. I bet you get a better overall sound with the Fishman and your speaker solution. All in all, I've tried to get the resonance modeling from the Boss in the Helix floor but I can't match it (yet). You absolutely can't beat the Helix for versatility and wide span of options though and need it once you add the other guy. Like you said, the options of delays and modulations and the like go up dramatically once you've set up the Helix. I don't think I'd change your speaker setup. Its easy enough to buy and try and return a speaker if you want to give it a shot

The Helix is verstaile to do this for sure. I run 2 acoustics and 1 vocal throguh the Helix and control volume on the 3 with added vol pedals instead of a mixer. Works well. The videos others have added are a great start.

great idea!