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I'm looking to send a different mix from the Helix to my in-ears than to my PowerCab. I was hoping to be able to pass Path 1's outputs to the Digital outs (or XLR), while also passing it down to Path 2. Path 2 would then have some additional EQ and a Doubler fx enabled for fake doubling in my in-ears and output to something else. So far there doesn't appear to be a way to have the output go to two places, which means I would need add an a Send/Return block so I can pass the audio to some hardware outputs while continuing to pass it down the chain. Is that correct? Or am I just missing something?

Modulation > Double Take It's designed to mimic double tracking, either in stereo, or mono. Be aware that faked double tracking usually results in a little bit of weird phase issues in mono. In stereo the separation makes them feel more natural.

Per the manual, the stereo mode in a single cab appears to have a width control that can pan it to mono, or extra wide stereo (presumably with phase alteration to expand the field). It would still technically be 500W, but realistically, no matter what you do the individual speakers are probably just getting 250W each, and since they're coaxial, the woofer is getting a big chunk of that and the tweeter is getting a smaller piece. When linked to another PowerCab via L6 Link, the stereo mode switches to per cab, instead of per speaker. I assume the stereo width option still takes affect. I'm looking at grabbing a couple PowerCabs with Sweetwater.com's 48 payment plan... lol

Thanks @Peter! Really appreciate it. That's cool to see that I'd still have access to Path 2 and the extra blocks!

The PowerCab amps have XLR outputs on them that send the incoming signal out, either unaffected, or altered by their speaker and apparently additional mic modeling. (I'm looking at the 212 Plus model) So, the path for that side is Helix to L6 Link out, L6 Link in on the PowerCab, and XLR out on the PowerCab to the main house PA. I can also take the L6 Link out on the PowerCab and daisy chain to a second PowerCab. That way the cab gets a mono signal, and sends it to the house as well. Meanwhile, the XLR on the Helix would feed the in-ear system... Since you confirmed the Helix can have 4 separate mono outs effectively, this should be possible. Based on your diagram above, option 2 is exactly what I need. The top path will feed the PowerCab, and daisy chain to the house. The bottom path will feed my in-ears. If you, or someone doesn't mind, could you set that up in Helix Edit and take a screen grab so I can see how the routing actually works in the unit?

My band is looking at using wireless in-ear monitors live in a stereo setup. We already use wired in-ears for practice, but for live we're just using amps at the moment. For practice I currently use the "Double Tracker" on my Line 6 Vetta II to get some great stereo separation in our mix. I'm now looking to switch to the Helix Floor and a couple L6 PowerCabs, and a wireless in-ear system. I'm curious, can I split the path in the Helix so that one side heads out to the L6 Link digital outs, and the other side first goes into the Doubler FX block, and then to the XLR? That way I can have a MONO signal output to the PowerCabs and House to avoid the phase issues, while having the doubled STEREO signal headed to my in-ears which have 100% stereo separation. I tried simulating this in Helix Native, but the Output blocks are disabled for obvious reasons. Helix Edit seems to require having the hardware already, so I couldn't mess with it to see. L6-Link > PowerCab / / L6-Link > PowerCab / \ / XLR-L > House guitar > amp+cab > split \ XLR-L > X32-i1 > In-Ear-L \ / \ Doubler FX \ XLR-R > X32-i2 > In-Ear-R

This is obviously really old, but... Yes. Use the "Bender" effect under Synths. Then in the System Settings, set the pedal you want to control it.

I've I'm not mistaken, the only difference is hardware. The VII has the digital interface stuff built in, but that can be bought separately.

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Hi HelixCustomer, See the "Edit" button to the right of the list of file locations? Click it. Then click Add. Then browse to the folder that holds the Helix plugin and choose the folder Or you can just type into that field directly. Add a ; to the end and type in the path. As for what the proper path is, I can't tell you that. You presumably installed Helix to the default path, or you changed it during installation to some other location. I'm not a Mac user, so I don't know what the default location is. If you don't either, look it up in the manual maybe, or try searching for the .vst3 file.

I'm still figuring Helix and Reaper out today, but I did find that the Helix routing options are a bit confusing. I just had a similar post actually. I think you need to adjust the panning in Helix as well, and possibly mute Path 2 since it runs in parallel by default. FYI, you could just use the folder option in Reaper and pan the individual child tracks for right and left. But the bus routing works too. 1) Load up a parent folder track, or bus 2) Add 2 child tracks, or sends, and pan them 3) Add Helix to the parent track 4) Add an effect to Path 1 5) Drag the effect down until the parallel path line appears 6) Hover your mouse over the point where the path splits until you see a circle 7) Click on the circle 8) Set "Balance A" all the way left, and "Balance B" all the way right 9) Click on the circle on the other end where the two lines meet back up 10) Set the A Pan all the way left and the B Pan all the way right 11) Click on the Input "Host" icon for Path 2 (bottom left) 12) Change it to None You should now be able to put guitar L and guitar R through separate MONO channels in Path 1 (1A and 1B). If you need more processing power (if you're doing 2 guitars - you will): 1) Click on the Output "Host" button for Path 1 (top right) 2) Choose >2A 3) Do the same thing as above for path too... e.g. add an effect to Path 2, drag the effect down, adjust the split and merge point panning options. This will give you 2 separate guitar signals throughout, panned hard left and right. You would THINK you could simply route guitar 1 to Path 1 and guitar 2 to Path 2, but that does NOT appear to be the case. You have to route guitar 1 to Path 1A (L) and guitar 2 to Path 1B (R), and then chain Path 2 if you don't have enough DSP to do what you want.

1) Make sure the path to the plugins is correct. Options>Preferences>Plug-ins (left nav)>VST (left nav)>VST plug-in paths Add the path to the Helix Native (x64).vst3 file if it's not in the list already. I don't know where that is in a Mac. You'll need to check the default install location. Then use Re-scan to have Reaper look at everything again. If that doesn't work, try Clear cache/re-scan instead - which will take longer.

Hi gunpointmetal, This was unfortunately in the wrong forum area. I'm not using the hardware, but I'd like to buy one eventually. :) Issue is sort of resolved. The Helix doesn't seem capable of routing something to path 2 independently, but you can route through the left and right of path 1 into path 2 to get more effects. I was trying to route a 2nd instrument into Path 2 directly, more like how the Pod Farm 2 plugin works. The paths are completely separate, but are mixed down to stereo at the end. Thought the Helix would work the same.

Hi Fr0sty! Thanks the post. I was able to do what you posted that using my "Working" screen shot basically. I can either run dual mono paths in Path 2 (my screen shot) or a single stereo (your screen shot). In either case, the confusion is about the inability to feed Path 2 directly. It seems the best you can do is chain Path 1 into Path 2 and add on more effects. I feel like Line6 has given us two Pods, but forgot the input jack on one and only provided an effects return. lol I'm guessing maybe they did this since they have to mix everything down to a single stereo output. I would have much preferred 2 stereo outs, but could have settled for a single stereo out while still maintaining different paths. Like Pod Farm 2 I guess. Either way, I can at least get 2 mono guitar signals panned L and R like I wanted... Just not how I expected.

I've been reading the Signal Routing Examples in the manual, but I can't seem to get it to work properly. I'd like to run 2 different signals (such as 2 guitars) into Helix Native (DAW is Reaper), and have Signal 1 feed Path 1, and Signal 2 feed Path 2. I can do this with a single path, but I run out of processing on that path quickly. All I can seem to do is route Signal 1 to the Path 1A and Signal 2 to Path 1B... But I can never get anything to go directly into Path 2 from the Host? I've tried panning the tracks, and even feeding the Helix channels 1/2 and 3/4 from my DAW, but it doesn't seem to pay attention to inputs 3/4 at all. Path 2 seems to only take in channels 1/2 in parallel to Path 1, or in series, if you alter the Host output option. See "Guitar Inputs" for seemingly logical path that doesn't work. I also tried out the Parallel Paths option as described in the manual, but that doesn't work for this. If both the input and output blocks are split, then the audio is simply running in parallel, as intended based on the name. So I can't feed signal 1 into Path 1A, and feed signal 2 into Path 1B separately. See "Guitar Inputs Parallel Paths". Closest thing I can get to work is setting up 2 stereo paths and adjusting the panning everywhere so that one side stays left, and the other stays right. That gives me the full power of both paths, but it seems like a really convoluted way to accomplish this. See "Working". Am I missing something? Or is this just not possible? How dcan you route something different to Path 2?

I'm effectively trying to use path A for one guitar, and path B for a different guitar, simultaneously. I want to get one Helix, and control two guitarists in my band. :) Hmm. This is apparently in the wrong spot. I'm talking about Helix Native (although I aim to achieve the same thing in hardware if I can afford one some day). I'll move the thread. Thanks though!

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I've been reading the Signal Routing Examples in the manual, but I can't seem to get this idea to work... I'd like to run 2 different mono (or stereo) guitar signals into Helix (DAW: Reaper), and have guitar 1 feed Path A, and guitar 2 feed Path B. At best I can get both signals into Path A and split them L and R and/or series route them into Path B... But I can never get anything from my host to go directly into Path B by itself, and either come out channels 1/2 or 3/4 in the DAW. Am I missing something? Or is this just not possible? I also tried out the Parallel Paths thing, but couldn't get the signals to route as expected. I was expecting to be able to put the left side of a stereo signal into Path 1A and the right into Path 1B, and use the panning at the end to get them to the right spot. To test I was trying to add Modulation to just the right side... No matter what I tried, everything was still panned center?

I just got Helix Native, and tried chaining two instances so that the first had Doubler enabled, and the second was just supposed to be a dual amp setup. I found that for some reason the instant I put two amps into the 2nd chain, it summed to mono. If I had an amp on one side, but not the other, the 2nd instance was still in stereo. Since I'm new to the program, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or not.

Can you verify if the Head is doing any EQ compensation for the 412 cabinet in the "On" mode? I mean, if you turn it on, does the head also apply an EQ curve to the speaker output that is meant to flatten out the L6 Spider V 412? Or does it only use a crossover for the cab and head? If it does apply EQ, I'm thinking maybe it would be best to get the matching Spider V cabinet, rather than use my Spider Valve v30 cab which will have a different EQ curve.

My Toneport UX8 has died. I spent a fair amount of money fixing other issues with it recently, so I don't feel it's worth the investment to repair this problem too. So I just bought a Behringer U-Phoria UMC1820 to try out for recording instead. So far it's working well, and has surprisingly low latency options (haven't tested them all though). It's working well at 128 and 256 so far. However, with Pod Farm 2.0 Standalone, I have a few problems with this device: 1) I can only select 1 input channel in File > Preferences > Hardware > Input Channel. With the Toneport I believe I could select 2 inputs for say vocals and bass simultaneously, no? Is this expected behavior when using a non-L6 audio interface with the program - You can only process a single input, even if the interface has more? 2) Every time I restart Pod Farm 2.0 the Input Channel settings resets to Input 1, even though I'm trying to set it up on Input 2 as the default. Guess I'll just have to swap my physical settings since I record guitar most of the time, but that's kind of annoying. 3) Usually when I switch input channels, the output volume of the same patch becomes very loud (into heavy clipping) compared to the identical patch when loaded in Pod Farm VST. Switching presets, and switching back seems to reset it to the expected volume though. 2) Clicking ASIO Settings doesn't open the UMC control panel. Clicking the ASIO configuration in Reaper is able to open it just fine, so it seems to just be an issue with this.

Never mind! If you have the phone set to output to the speakers (the little speaker icon in the upper right is blue), then it records through the mic. If you turn that off (so the icon is white), it records from USB instead. Unfortunately, you seem to have to turn this off BEFORE plugging in the USB apparently. I can’t seem to switch it off when it is plugged in. Interestingly I can turn it on though! Guess that’s an iPhone bug? Depending on the settings it may or may not play through the amp afterwards either. So: Open Voice Recorder Ensure the speaker icon is white (speaker phone is off) Plug in the USB cable Then record

According to this Video, I should be able to record the DI output of the Spider V into my iPhone recorder app simply by being connected to the amp via USB. However, when I do so, the recorder records the mic input on my phone and not the amp output... I can blow on the phone and record that for example. I have the Spider App installed and successfully connect, so that’s working. Is there some setting somewhere that I need to use to switch the recorder app to use the USB input instead? Im using the latest iOS, on iPhone X.

Found the answer to my main question really:

I'm about to pick up a Spider V 240HC on craigslist for cheap, and probably pair it with my spider valve cabinet (v30's). I understand the spider cabs have brighter speakers than the v30s in general. Some rumors are that they use G12P-80's (which seem to also be called Seventy-80s?), and there are some comparison videos on YT of the two. They're much brighter overall. Does anyone know what speakers are really in the Spider V's? Does anyone know if the spider is compensating for the speaker frequency response of their expected speakers, to try to make it "flat"? I'm curious how full range this will really be using the head with the V30 cab vs the regular V cab. I'm also considering picking up a Seismic Audio empty 212 cab or something, and putting in the same speakers - so I can have a smaller rig when I want. It's too bad L6 doesn't have a 212 extension cab for this. Maybe down the road.