PeterHamm

I run a few programs that I'd have to spend GOBS of money upgrading or replacing if I upgraded to Yosemite or El Crapitan, so I'm stickin'. Also, I've got another machine that's upgraded at the office to Yosemite, and I don't like it one bit, so I'm waiting as long as I can. Word out there is that folks with Yosemite and El Cap are doin' fine with the editor so far, though.

Copied from the fb forum. Just for the record, this morning, just for grins, I used the Editor to make my normal patch totally from scratch. The only thing, the ONE only thing that I did on the actual unit was customize a scribble strip's color and name (that's not in the editor yet, but coming real soon I'm sure). I spent about 2 or 3 hours with it today doing that and copying and pasting and replacing patches and backing up set lists and bundles. I could not get the program to fritz on me or freeze or crash or hiccup one single time. The only thing close to a problem I think was my fault, and it didn't freeze or cause me to lose anything anyway... So, "public beta" in name only imho. On my Mac running Mavericks, it was as stable as stable can be. And the latest firmware is totally rock-solid as well.

I have started tuning my low E by fretting at fret 2 and tuning to the Gb/F# there. I only use that string open for one note, and I'd rather it be a little flat when I do that then a little sharp the rest of the time... That said, a lot of folks have griped they want more granularity to the Helix tuner. I think it's pretty darn usable as is.

Joy. Joy is coming...

Yes, I believe so!

From another site... 1=E octave 4 0 offset(open E). 2=B octave 3 +1. offset(open B). 3=G octave 3 -2. offset(open G). 4=D octave 3 -2. offset(open D). 5=A octave 2 -2. offset(open A). 6=E octave 2 -2. offset(open E). 7=D octave 2 -4. offset(open D). if you want drop D this works.

Manual Page 14. The default input is "multi", but you're probably way better off using the input you are using ONLY.

Everybody will have a different perfect base patch. You will discover what works for you very quickly. Then you will learn other awesome things about how the unit is laid out and change your mind. If you're like me, third time's the charm. I know EXACTLY what I need to do to get the setup that works well for me. Some tips. Leave the very first and last blocks in a path, or even the first 2, open for last minute additions to the very end or beginning of the chain. Save often. DON'T USE THE DEFAULT "MULTI" INPUT! Use the LA studio comp... every time... set subtle... thank me later. Always always always use separate amp and cab so you can put FX in the "imaginary loop" between the amp and cabinet. Use dual cabs. Even in mono. Run multiple delays in parallel, not series. Figure out how to set up the footswitches (and use 10-switch mode for goodness' sake) the SAME way on every patch so you always know what you're stepping on. My delays, gains, modulations, verbs... always in the same place. The Klon is awesome. The Timmy is awesome. Both at the same time is freakin' hysterically amazing... into an overdriven Matchless will cause you to collapse giggling from pleasure instantaneously. I could go on, but I'm goin' to lunch...

hee hee... not on the rack!

Remember you have to put them in again if you do a global reset!

Yeah, I'm sure it's not doing that, too. What is really nice about this is that if you decide to put a fuzz first in the chain (where it should ALWAYS be, even before a buffer on a pedalboard) then the impedance will switch, not based on the guitar plugged in, but on the effect's needs.

Different strokes. Helix was designed to be more flexible, for instance, than the AX8 (which is really for modeling mainly) or the FX8 (which is FX only). I didn't say better. better is different for you or me or the guy down the street. What Helix gets you when you go direct is a state-of the art direct to PA tone that is really wonderful, flexible, and insanely easy to learn to use. What Helix gets you when you want to do multiple signal chains is simply fantastic. What Helix gets you when you go to an amp is sometimes going to be more significant in ease of use and flexibility than in tone, and there's less advantage, except that if you already have it for the first two scenarios, you have the same box to do all your stuff, not just most of it. The absolute sweet spot is the guy who will want to do both and not have to have two different solutions.

It's possible that your audience can't hear the difference between you playing through a well-dialed in HD 500 and a well-dialed in Helix. It's also possible that you CAN and because of that, you play better. so there's that. Honestly, I think all the "problems" with modeling were solved int he HD 500 generation. I no longer felt like I was compromising, and my direct tone finally sounded better (yeah, better) in most cases than my amps, which I eventually sold. But with Helix, the advances in flexibility are almost more significant than the bump in sound quality, which, in a dense mix, I'm not sure everyone can hear. But yeah. Worth it. That said, for the guy who can only afford an HD 500, that guy is still capable of making some treat tones and great music.

I have before, but when I do, I use way fewer FX, because I prefer to manipulate those later.

One thing on "free" amp updates going forward. It's not just to make the existing customers happy. That kind of thing attracts new customers. Jus' sayin'...

Spikey, they've been telling us that for months. No beans to spill that ain't already spilled.

HAHA. That's what you get for multitasking. EVERY FUNCTION IN HELIX is available to edit on Helix itself. There is not one single function that you have to have the Editor to do, and not one single added extra bonus parameter only available with the computer editor.

To be clear. There is nothing you can edit on Helix that can't be done on Helix itself. The Editor offers no "deep parameter editing" of any kind, and in fact will look largely like the actual front panel of Helix itself. I suspect that most things will be just as easy on the unit as the editor, and a very small number of things might be easier on one or the other...

With the rack, sitting at desktop level, I'm rather spoiled. Of course I WANT the Editor, but I don't need it nearly like I've needed one with other devices.

The answer is clearly yes.

None (although the built-in cabs are IR-based). The idea of loading your own IRs is that you can buy or make your own.

yes, that is an easy way to do it in a way that totally bypasses the master volume control.

One easy way to do this is program your 4CM "amp" banks so that they don't use the main output at all, only sends and returns. You might not be able to do this if you're using a bunch of FX pedals, but if you can, it's a great solution.

Well, editor will have mouse control. on the unit, you have a joystick, 8 knobs, and 8 buttons (plus the 6 buttons on the six main knobs). getting from point a to point b in terms of programming, once you learn the unit... the Editor might be slower for some (most?) than the unit itself... but... no more bending over... YESSSS!!!!

I realize that, but Line 6 has already told us not to run audio through Helix while you are editing. I am doubtin' that will change right away.