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Tune in this time next year to find out... hahaha

Cant you just do this with the levels aready?

Great news for Bass users I guess! But cmon, can we please address the basics first. still no level meters, and still no method for saving Global settings! I know I'll skip this update in the hope that the next one will contain at least the ability to save global settings... Or maybe ill just buy a headrush pedal board.... Just joking, no one is that that damned potato!

Is there meant to be a bright switch on the lead channel? I don't have one on mine, do have it on the clean channel, noticed that the real deal has one for the lead channel, I know I would use it, hopefully they tweak this is if it isn't there for everyone....

It would be nice if they could do a reset option that leaves the IR section alone...

Ahhh, classic Chad 'the fleecer' Boston....

Is that an auto on off for the wah?? Ar work so cant try it out...

It may not be the case that it is in droves, however some members were complaining,in this thread, of it happening all too often. Given their responses to the OP I'm not surprised if blowing things out of proportion is on their cards.

Love how a large number of customers can be fed up with the flow of updates and yet the regular culprits will be here ready to slam them for expressing their views, in the customer support forum, ready to stroke Line6' shaft and cup certain members balls. This is a customer support forum, they own the product, they are more than entitled to express they are fed up. If you are sick of seeing people talk about it then it's easy to see that there's reason then to justify the frequency. "Just sell it then..." How about don't open the thread....?

Some people have just been looking to use the Helix as a cash cow since the day it was announced. One in particular, Chad Boston, really grinds my gears. Here we have someone who is not a great reviewer, not a great player, and definitely not known outside of his little Mansonesque helix club who not only crowd funded his gear after he cracked the sads, but charges for patches, sells his own line of helix shirts and charges for access to a forum where you can get "special helix tips and tricks." What pisses me off about people like this is the fact that they have no input in the product itself but are certainly milking it for what its worth, how line 6 isn't dragging people like him over the coals is beyond me as he is making money off and from using their name. What ever happened to musos helping each other out? Not once have I ever considered charging someone to offer help when they have asked a question about helix on any other forums, and neither have the other users. Could you imagine, before modelers, asking people for settings they are using on there amps and pedals only to charge them to tell them where to turn their knobs? This is the same thing with helix, only because its digital and can be saved people are of the impression they are some sort of Hackerman wiz so in fact should be able to charge for their time. I've downloaded a few patches here and there, even bought one, to see where I could improve etc, the one I paid for was in no way more valuable to me than the free patches and not one, paid or free, made me think they would be worth the money.

Given where we are at with a unit like this, even offering multiple parameter changes, it's a long way from where we all once were, an amp with a few pedals and a switch to change channels. It kind of seems now that we have been given such a huge range of options people are crying because they unnecessarily want more and more. It's kind of like the rich kid that got a lambo for christmas but then complains its the wrong colour. I must admit, I always thought Jimi Hendrix' tone and playing was lollipop because he couldn't make over 16 tonal changes per song....

16 snapshots per song? Why....?

Wow, if you think the title of my post is "abrasive" then you need to get out more. No one likes an SJW, stop trying to make everything more than it needs to be...

Not sure what you are trying to get at as that was genuinely how I was feeling, it got to the point that I wasn't even turning it on because I was so disappointed with what I was hearing. It wasn't an attempt at a post to bring helix down, it was simply a title reflecting my exact feelings at the time regarding my experience. As for user error, yup, that could be it, that's why I was posting in here asking the questions I asked, could it be me, could it be the product, are my expectations vs reality out of whack. If its user error then hopefully I can get right to the bottom of it and Ill be happy, remember I never claimed to be an expert. Some people are trying to help rather than scoff at the thought they can climb aboard their high horse and shout "USER ERROR" as though they get some sort of personal gain out of the experience... But hey what ever floats your boat champ....

Thanks mate appreciate it, I know what your trying to say, and to be honest, I've never mixed a track before, so knowing what fits in the mix vs my just trying to emulate a cab in room sound are no doubt going to be extremely different things. Because if this inexperience it makes it confusing as to what I should be chasing. I think I made some decent headway today and ill have another crack at recording some little demo tones a bit better tomorrow after work and get you to have a listen!

Can everyone sooking over someone mentioning Hitler and who ever it was grow a pair already.... You dont have to be offended by every little thing you read on the internet, especially since none of you here had any direct experience of any of those people mentioned...

Signal is running direct from helix via dual XLR, using the helix as a soundcard and using the onboard soundcard yield the same listening experience. In regards to listening environment, I'm not sold that its the case as I can listen to the demos through the same setup, in the same room I'm playing in, no other variables, and the demos sound amazing, this is what is so bloody frustrating to me.... (edit: ok so tried the switches on the back of the monitors, boosted the 2K on both, it hits it with 2db increase, and for the greater part its 90% better straight away! Theres still a little bit of weird mid eq that I dont particularly like in my tone, however now that im not using EQ to fight the effect I was having before I can try and narrow that down now!) As for the quietness of the demos thats direct from USB on the helix to the laptop. No volume adjusted anywhere, hit record on reaper and save. Do I need to push more output on the helix? Or if you know a bit about reaper should I boost the input signal somewhere?? Running through all the cabs, and a selection of ownhammer cabs, the onboard "mandarin" cab is the clearest most in room sounding for me. (edit : ok so since adjusting the monitors ill have another look at this one!) Ill give the different OD and clean boost a crack! (edit: gave it a go, came back to the same model again, the minotaur had improvements in some areas but lost some of what I like about the tubescreamer model, out of the two I liked the TS more for me) If i set the mics any further back than 1 or 1.5 its like adding more and more blankets... (Edit: still a bit ame same with that one too) No chance its the choice of pickups here, never had an issue with them playing through my old SS and tube rigs, Randall RG series and Randall RD100. Thanks for the tips though!

Ahhh ok, not using 7-8 string guitars, as I posted the majority of my guitars are E standard/Drop D, among other weird stuff you posted there but thanks for your helpful input I guess? However if you watched all the demos leading up to release, all the hype, it was in fact marketed as something that yes you could indeed plug in turn on and dial up a great tone.

Did a couple of really scrappy short recordings, bit of an out of time tol riff and just some odd palm mutes and chords to give an idea of the tone im talking about, nothing special by any means. I wish I knew how to just re amp, but reaper is one hell of a confusing beast to me at the moment. Recorded on the factory presets with no adjustments, last one will be of my own Uber model setting. Recorded on what is one of my brightest guitars, Ibanez SZ4020FM, JB in the bridge, Drop D 10-52. https://soundcloud.com/brad-butler-22/factory-cali https://soundcloud.com/brad-butler-22/factory-2204 https://soundcloud.com/brad-butler-22/factory-uber https://soundcloud.com/brad-butler-22/demo-uber This is the closest ive come to being happy with a tone from the unit... https://soundcloud.com/brad-butler-22/sz4020-the-patient-riff Is there a way I can attach my preset into here so someone could look at it??? What I forgot to get was a quick demo of the factory AC30 which just sounds like a wet bass fart with a weird octave effect on it....

Ok, so I did a factory reset and reloaded the latest software and my presets. I think, and it could just be in my head, that through a cab it may have sounded a little better, as for monitors and headphones its still that muffled tone so the fight continues. At this stage I've disengaged global EQ and trying more and more EQ options. To me though, having to potentially run an EQ before the amp, an OD, and EQ after the amp, low hi cut on the cab, an EQ after the cab and a low hi cut before the output just seems like too much trouble for what should be a unit of endless great tones. The whole idea was to be able to plug in ring up an od and an amp and go, not the case by a long shot....

So many awesome responses. I'm going to try the factory reset first and see how I go from there, that's just the one where you hold two particular buttons down and it resets yeah? As regards to wah, I dont have any wah effects in my chain, all the wah models do my head in, until they release an auto on wah with the expression pedal and model a bad horsie 2 then I will never have one in the chain. The power amp I have been using is a Marshall VS120, and before that was the power section of a Randall RD100H, up loud I will say that it sounds pretty good, but given this is a modeler and meant to emulate all those things about cranked tubes at reasonable listening volumes I shouldn't have to push the speakers to breakup to get a good tone out of any of the listening mediums. Reg global EQ, if I dont have that on with the huge scoop on the 350hz band then there's really no point even trying to play. If I knew of one locally in a store I would be all over trying it out, but given its line6 and the price point in Australia I dare say its one of those things where the stores don't want it in stock unless you want it. Ill let you all know how the reset goes later on, havn't had the heart to touch the unit since I posted this the other night. Thanks guys!

Have had the unit since release and I'm really starting to question, just how good this unit really is, or if in fact mine has been fault all along. I find that for every high gain tone I am always forever trying to cut out that wet blanket or muffled tone. I have cut freqs, boosted freqs, EQs in front, behind, both of amp and cab blocks. The only amp I have found "workable" for a high gain tone is the uberschall model. Everything else has this low mid muffle that cant be cut, or extreme low end that can be dialed out, to the point where I completely dialed out the bass on the amp block and it was still booming. This is through all methods, power amp to Orange PPC212, to Yamaha HS8 monitors and Audio Technica ATH-R70x monitors, so no part of me is considering that it is the medium which I am playing through. The kicker for me is listening to demos online, through the very monitors I use, when they say they are straight into a recording app with no post and it is crystal clear, almost cab in room sounding, and then I use my helix through it and its the muffled tone all over again, even copying or downloading their patches. Now I get that a different guitar and tuning will have a big impact, but you should be ale to dial the majority of that out with some minor eq on the amp block. If I don't use the uberschall model, the tone is either extreme fizz, or for instance using the marshall models, extreme flub broken sounding low end and so so much of that low end, wet blanket and some fizz, its almost sound that you would expect listening to a battery powered audio device that is dying. Pretty much every high gain amp model sounds like a fuzz pedal on roids, is a fight to remove copious low end, remove the wet blanket and get a clear sound that would cut. None of my amp models have sounded like the demos of that block that I have watched, the marshalls especially.... For high gain my typical configuration is TS9, uber, 10 band, noise gate, then into a dual cab setup, both mandarin 4x12 blocks and if I use anything but a 421 and 112 or 57 mic is like trying to listen with a wah slightly cocked. I cut around the 80-100, anything above and it is so so thin sounding. Any other cab and we are back to trying to dial out even more muffled tone... If I use third party IR's I may as well throw pillows on both of my ears. For example, in Olas demo, before the IR both demos sounded kind of flat, and then with his IR it was clear and it cut very well. I downloaded his patches and IR to see if I had the same results. My tone I had was more muffled using the exact same monitors I used to listen to his demo, at the same volume, and then when I used his IR it was EVEN WORSE, more muffled again! For my global EQ I have a huge cut around 350hz, -8db, if I don't the wet blanket is ever worse. If I go any more then the sound gets thinner and thinner.... Guitars I am using through it are; Ibanez SZ4020FM, Duncan SD, Drop D Ibanez SZ2020FM, Duncan Distortion C# Ibanez SZ2020EX, Duncan Distortion Drop B Ibanez MMM1, Duncan Distortion C# PRS P22, Stock 53/10s Drop D PRS SE245, Duncan JB, Drop D Now none of these guitars had any issues with clarity in the past before helix and given the nature of the high end in these pickups they should all cut, the only pickups I should have a huge issue with are the 53/10s.... Basically the only way I can get any decent tone is to smash volume out of this thing, anything that is normal bedroom level is flat and muffled, even though its the same volume I am listening to the demos on youtube at while smashing my head on my desk asking why cant I get even close.... Is it likely that my helix has been faulty all along, that some audio chip has shat the bed and is just killing the tone? It cant be this impossible to dial a good tone and to remove so so much low end and wet blanket....

Maybe just order some perspex and cut it to size yourself to place over the top of the screen, its very easy to work with if your just cutting it into a rectangle, would just need to figure out a way to attatch it and make it look nice