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I'd expect the XL to work the same as my regular Stomp. For the record, I'm using CC#71>4 (next footswitch mode) via DMC.micro. But it's just on the Micro's "secondary" page, it's not something I'd need often.

In theory, yes. In practice, this doesn't currently work the way we all would want it to work. The only workaround is to physically connect the Stomp's MIDI-out with the MIDI-in using a patch cable…

CC# 71 Value: 0 = Stomp, 3 = Snapshot "Passive" as in "no juice needed"? Is there even such a thing? Other than that, Disaster Area's DMC.micro is absolutely fantastic: ultra compact, highly flexible, if using their latest firmware 2.0, it's programmamble via USB and offline, and expandable even with passive footswitche/exp-pedals sending additional MIDI messages to the Stomp via the DMC.micro. And it still leaves the EXP jack on the Stomp free to use for something else…

I see this as the main issue. Running two Stomps would be nice to have because it would give me flexibility. Physical size and weight is a factor, hence I'm not interested in any other more capable device. For some applications, bass guitar in particular, having just the one Stomp is all I need. For the guitar, however, I'm running into limits every now and then, and I am already adding external footswitches and an expression pedal. So having two Stomps would still be a very compact solution. If only it would be possible to "link" them digitally without intermediate D/A A/D conversion. Which – as we know – is not possible, so it remains just a dream…

Yes. It needs a few 3rd party apps, however. Technically, you need an intermediate audio router capable of passing the GB output signal to the Stomp's USB 5/6 inputs. And there are several possibilities to do that. Just "out of the box" with what I have already installed on my currently active El Capitan partition, I did it like this: GB input = HX Stomp, GB output = BlackHole 2ch (existential.audio/blackhole) BlackHole goes into the old LineIn app from rogueamoeba.com/legacy/#retired (probably doesn't work on Catalina or higher) where you can select the Stomp's individual USB 5/6 inputs from the Select > Advanced popup menu, then click on Play Thru to send the signal to the Stomp. Instead of LineIn which is/was free, you can essentially use any audio editor with recording capabilities that has a "play through" button and that can select I/O channels individually. Off the top of my head, that should work with a few audio editors I'm using, like Amadeus Pro and iZotope RX8. Rogue Amoeba actually have dedicated audio routing apps but they are pricey. Instead of buying e.g. Loopback just for this purpose, I'd rather upgrade to Logic Pro… A screenshots says more than thousand words:

HX Stomp here. Guitar: Small Tweed A+C Playing a Les Paul switchable between parallel and series, so clean/crunch is done by its Free-Way switch. For lead sound just cranking up the Tweed's drive, mid, treble & master up to 10 per FS3. Playing through an old small active Yamaha PS 212 speaker from my "vaults". Or directly into mixing console. Sounds way better than my crappy 1994 Fender Blues Deluxe, haha… Bass guitar: A: Del Sol, C: 8x10 Ampeg Depending on where I can plug it in, I turn the cab on or off. Playing Ibanez SR1200 or fretless Fender Jazz. On stage I use my old combo as a monitor, going FX out pre-A+C, and main out post-A+C into PA. Original reason for my choice being that both amps are quite DSP friendly, leaving enough power on the Stomp for experiments with all the poly brouhaha. But eventually I found a good sound that I like, so I just left it at that.

For obvious reasons, I haven't had many chances to actually perform live since I bought the Stomp last summer, but I have successfully used it for bass guitar by plugging it directly into the PA multicore box on stage via a self-soldered TRS-to-XLR patch cable. Worked like a charm, I never had such a great bass sound before. Obviously I set the Stomp output to Instrument level to make it behave as close to a regular DI box as possible. The sound guy likely must have enabled an input pad on that channel, but I didn't ask him, and he didn't complain whatsoever. Yeah, it was "just" one Stomp. However, I'm not sure why it would make a difference. Each mixer channel should work independently here, regardless how many Stomps you plug in. If they don't, then something is wrong.

Nope. too many variables too little info on your part Please try again. ;)

Yes. I bought a new HX Stomp last year, and FS1 eventually turned out to be "immune" to capacitive touch. Line6 support acknowledged this as a hardware failure, so I had the switch replaced on warranty.

Additionally, I actually noticed the bug because I wanted to assign something to FS4/5 triggered via CC# from DMC.micro which are obviously not touchy. So the "touch" workaround wouldn't work in that case.

I see. Usually I've got anything "touchy" disabled because I play barefoot whenever, uh… appropriate. So that's workaround #3. Cheers!

On HX Stomp, I can only make it work like this: Command: HX Snapshot Behavior: Press/Hold Press: Snapshot 2 Hold: Snapshot 1 Means: On short press you get to Snp2, on long press you get back to Snp1. You could toggle snapshots via CC Toggle: CC#69 But – at least on the Stomp – that doesn't seem to work internally, you'd need to patch MIDI I/O or use an external MIDI switch. (I'm using DMC.micro to switch snapshots.)

Possible bug with Bypass Assign directly on device: Hardware: HX Stomp Firmware: 3.11 OS: n/a Global Settings: stomp 3 set to FS3 Bug: assign the allowed maximum of 8 parameter controllers to FS2 (use anything that has at least 8 parameters, like toggling individual parameters of an amp with FS2) try to assign any other block to FS3 using the Bypass Assign menu function on the device; you won't get pass FS1 to FS3 because FS2 is now "blocked". And if you have assigned all 8 controllers to FS1, Bypass Assign is blocked totally. Workarounds: temporarily disable one of the 8 controller/bypass parameters on FS2 to make FS2 visible and "skipable" in Bypass Assign with the rotary knob again. use HX Edit, assign bypasses via context menu Can anyone confirm?

I stopped reading right here. You're comparing – literally, so to speak – apples to androids. So, to get the facts straight: "Apple" is the name of a company that sells a wide palette of hardware and software products and services. "Android" is a computer (in the widest sense) operating system brand by a company that rhymes with schkroogle. Vive la différence. Now, let's compare, say, Line 6 (company) to Windows (operating system brand). How will that work out, I wonder? ;)

Same here. An old self-modified Roland expression pedal, the supercompact DMC-micro MIDI, plus two old switches I had since decades, one into Stomp, the other into DMC-micro's external footswitch input. That's what I use when playing guitar. In bands where I play bass, I'm fine with just the Stomp alone. By the way, just seeing they have released new DMC-micro beta firmware just today: https://disasterareadesigns.com/dmc-beta

It was one of the first things I tried after buying the Stomp last year and discovering that it has a synth. And I was "mildly" disappointed that it doesn't work. Has anyone posted that on Ideascale already? line6.ideascale.com/a/ideas/search?templateId=0&query=synth+keyboard If not: … please do so: line6.ideascale.com Thanks

From my communication with Line 6 support on a "touch" related HX Stomp hardware defect last year (repaired in the meantime), this behavior is apparently "by design": The global setting Stomp Select (Touch/Press/Both) is supposed to affect the Edit View only. I, for one, being someone who plays barefoot every now and then, consider this a bug nonetheless, but there you go.

Having never heard of this "Helix" thing or even of that "Line 6" company before I tested the Stomp in my local music store last summer, I was actually overwhelmed how much connectivity this small device has literally "out of the box", for this price. Absolutely amazing! (Disclosure: My previous "digital sound modeller & guitar effect unit" was a Boss SE-50 which I bought used back in 1992, and I haven't even used it for nearly 20 years until just recently, before buying the Stomp. It still works!) Copy & pasting one of my recent posts from another thread: For bands where I play bass guitar, usually I'm alright with just the Stomp alone. No need for a pedalboard at all. Just the Stomp, the power unit and two cables. Everything's transportable in my gig bag. For bands where I play guitar, I need an expression pedal plus additional footswitches to change snapshots and Exp1/2 – the latter not directly avaliable on my old Roland expression pedal. But my "pedalboard" – a modified metal plate 26 × 32 cm that's originally been part of an office computer shelf – must accomodate all of it, and everything must remain loose so that I can always remove the Stomp when going to play bass. Hence I opted for Disaster Area DMC.micro which is "minimalistic" but flexible enough to do what I need plus having an extra footswitch input that I use for tap tempo. Those additional analog footswitches also come from my decades old "gear archives", i.e. apart from the Stomp and the DMC.micro I'm "recycling" material that I already had since decades. As for DMC.micro vs MIDI Baby 3: DMC.micro can be programmed offline directly on the device, whereas for MIDI Baby you need an internet connection to change the settings. I definitely wanted the former. So… essentially no amp. Plugging it directly into whatever is at the location. E.g. if there's a real bass amp where I'd rehearse, I'd disable the cab block in my preset, use the amp block and a few effects only, and plug the Stomp straight into the power amp / FX loop input of the amplifier. On live occasions – well, there weren't many last year, sadly – I go straight into the PA via main out. Via FX Send block placed before the A+C block I go into my bass combo which I'm now using as a stage monitor only. Or as a backup if anything would go wrong with either the Stomp or with the PA. But at FOH, the Stomp sounds definitely better than my combo! For the guitar, I'm using a pair of old small active Yamaha PA speakers. This is more complex to set up, and so I haven't found my ideal sound yet, playing a Les Paul in an Afro band who would in fact want me to have a Strat sound, but I hate playing Strat-like guitars and thus don't even have any. Duh. It's a work in progress: I haven't used the Stomp live with a guitar yet. Why did I buy the Stomp in the first place? We had a gig last year with the Afro band where I had my old Fender Blues Deluxe with me, only to find out that a power amp tube broke during transport. We've managed to work around it by using our bassist's spare mini bass amp connected directly to my the Fender's speaker. The next week I went to the store to buy replacement tubes, and ended up buying the Stomp as well… :D

Sigh. Where's the *rolleyes* emoticon when you need it… Whatever. If you still wish to have the ultimate last word, go ahead, this thread is now all yours. Signing off.

That all said, the best solution as far as I'm concerned still is:

The original question was: And the answer is: Yes, you can. "Can." As in: "… but you don't have to."

Well, um, yes. Much like if you need a split to path B for "Effect X" only on a Stomp, obviously you cannot apply it again later in the block flow for "Effect Y" anymore. On the other hand, I, for one, rarely need a split at all, so I wouldn't be wasting anything. That said, neither would I need this very scenario as far as I can say so far. (I do use 2-channel presets though.) It's just a "proof of concept" that it's possible with the tool we have. That's all. :)

Overall size, weight and particularly modularity matter as well: For bands where I play bass guitar, usually I'm alright with just the Stomp alone. No need for a pedalboard at all. Just the Stomp, the power unit and two cables. Everything's transportable in my gig bag. For bands where I play guitar, I need an expression pedal plus additional footswitches to change snapshots and Exp1/2 – the latter not directly avaliable on my old Roland expression pedal. But my "pedalboard" – a modified metal plate 26 × 32 cm that's originally been part of an office computer shelf – must accomodate all of it, and everything must remain loose so that I can always remove the Stomp when going to play bass. Hence I opted for Disaster Area DMC.micro which is "minimalistic" but flexible enough to do what I need plus having an extra footswitch input that I use for tap tempo. Those additional analog footswitches also come from my decades old "gear archives", i.e. apart from the Stomp and the DMC.micro I'm "recycling" material that I already had since decades. As for DMC.micro vs MIDI Baby 3: DMC.micro can be programmed offline directly on the device, whereas for MIDI Baby you need an internet connection to change the settings. I definitely wanted the former. In other words, even if the Stomp XL would have been already available last year, I still would have opted for the small Stomp because of modularity. In other other words, there is no definite solution. Your mileage will vary.

Exactly that. Input L_R Switch.hlx Assign a footswitch or snapshot to flip balance B. Make sure all blocks are on path B, and at least one of them should be a mono block: (^ Using Gain blocks here only as placeholders. Use which ever blocks you like.) Turn down level of path A on Mixer block:

Frankly, I had no experience with this exact scenario yet, so I had to look up a few details in the manual… But in Logic, such a plugin is already built in, and its name is External Instrument. It's under Utilities. I won't necessarily need it for reamping because I bought Helix Native the last time it was on sale. But it will be useful while overdubbing with HX Stomp: I can automate changing snapshots a pushing footswitches during the recording process while I'll be using the Stomp for latency free hardware monitoring – while recording just the dry signal. Just tested it, it works. (Just don't pull the USB cable while the antique MIDI is doing its thing: kernel panic caused by Line 6 driver…) … see above. :)