spawn2031 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Hey guys, I am looking to purchase a pair of good headphones just for practice that can get as close as possible to the sound coming out of my FRFR cabs. Doesn't have to be a perfect match, but close enough to be able to make tones by and practice. I am also looking for them to not break the bank. My wife and daughter are starting to nose around for Birthday ideas so I don't want to crush them but I also know they wont want to get me junk. Anyone have a pair that fits the bill? Thanks ahead of time guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medievil1 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I recently bought a set of shure SRH440's.. they seem to be pretty accurate.. I know they give me the same sound coming out of my amp (HD 500 into the power amp bypassing it's preamp) they run $99 if you are in the US you can order them from sweetwater, use the 3 pay plan and pay $33 a month for 3 months...(Plus $10 fee on one payment to cover the extra processing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 A good place to start, is to check the manufacturer of your FRFR. It is totally possible that they have a 'companion' set of headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgos02 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I have Marshall Monitor headphones and I am really satisfied in general, but my advice would be not to expect having the best tone with the headphones. They cannot replace cabinets or speakers, no matter how much money you are willing to spend. I would suggest getting them only to play every once in a while when you can't play loud or to use them as refference when recording/mixing, but absolutely not for patch building. You won't get satisfying tones out of the headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn2031 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 I have Marshall Monitor headphones and I am really satisfied in general, but my advice would be not to expect having the best tone with the headphones. They cannot replace cabinets or speakers, no matter how much money you are willing to spend. I would suggest getting them only to play every once in a while when you can't play loud or to use them as refference when recording/mixing, but absolutely not for patch building. You won't get satisfying tones out of the headphones. Oh yeah, no doubt on that man. These aren't for getting polished perfect tones. Just a starting point. I have a 1yr old son that goes to bed pretty early, right about the time I would normally start having time to start messing around so these would be just for when I can't use my main cabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgos02 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Oh yeah, no doubt on that man. These aren't for getting polished perfect tones. Just a starting point. I have a 1yr old son that goes to bed pretty early, right about the time I would normally start having time to start messing around so these would be just for when I can't use my main cabs Then the headphones is the only solution, but keep in mind that the sound you will be getting from them will be A LOT different and you will have to do some adjustments if you want to play for a long time. That's my experience with my Marshall Monitor. I bought them around 160 euros. P.S: I suggest you try the headphones before you buy them, so you can see if they are comfortable enough for your head and ears. I had trouble get used to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Definitely get open-backed headphones. There'll be some leakage, so you can't really crank them up without disturbing people in the same room, but they're way more predictable than closed-back models. My weapon of choice are Sennheiser HD600s. A bit pricey, but I've mixed records on them (begrudgingly, because studio monitors are always best). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I use these and have found them to be great for my non-professional needs. http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-990-Pro-250-Professional-Acoustically-Applications/dp/B0011UB9CQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgos02 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Definitely get open-backed headphones. There'll be some leakage, so you can't really crank them up without disturbing people in the same room, but they're way more predictable than closed-back models. My weapon of choice are Sennheiser HD600s. A bit pricey, but I've mixed records on them (begrudgingly, because studio monitors are always best). I use these and have found them to be great for my non-professional needs. http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-990-Pro-250-Professional-Acoustically-Applications/dp/B0011UB9CQ No one ever suggested to me open back headphones. I haven't even heard of them before... :S What are the main differences with the normal headphones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No one ever suggested to me open back headphones. I haven't even heard of them before... :S What are the main differences with the normal headphones? Closed back cans tend to artificially pump up the low end, so for tweaking tones you will usually find yourself struggling to dial back the bass all the time...if you then try to use patches set up that way through an amp (even an FRFR one), or to record direct, you'll end up having to put back all low end. Ends up being a bass up, bass down rollercoaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No one ever suggested to me open back headphones. I haven't even heard of them before... :S What are the main differences with the normal headphones? I use closed headphones, sony 7506. The biggest advantage is the sound isolation. I can't stand hearing the unamped strings of the guitar mixed with the amped; it affects too much how I play and affects how I hear the tone from the patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgos02 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Closed back cans tend to artificially pump up the low end, so for tweaking tones you will usually find yourself struggling to dial back the bass all the time...if you then try to use patches set up that way through an amp (even an FRFR one), or to record direct, you'll end up having to put back all low end. Ends up being a bass up, bass down rollercoaster. I own the Marshall Monitor which is closed back headphones and the biggest difference I noticed (with refference an old Passive Philips system) was the extremely disturbing high end/fizziness. I didn't have any problem with the bass. The huge problem I had was the high frequencies. I couldn't dial them out, till I told myself to give up trying to build a decent tone with headphones. It was impossible and extremely disappointing experience for me. And when I tried to play through that Philips system, it all went out smooth and nicely. I don't know if you have experienced anything similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclement Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 More than you ever wanted to know about headphones: http://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medievil1 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 the SRH 440's I mentioned are close backed and do not have fizzy or boomy bass..they are as close to a flat response as I have owned in that price range ($99)... I am sure the more expensive ones are probably better on other levels though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgos02 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I use these and have found them to be great for my non-professional needs. http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-DT-990-Pro-250-Professional-Acoustically-Applications/dp/B0011UB9CQ Closed back cans tend to artificially pump up the low end, so for tweaking tones you will usually find yourself struggling to dial back the bass all the time...if you then try to use patches set up that way through an amp (even an FRFR one), or to record direct, you'll end up having to put back all low end. Ends up being a bass up, bass down rollercoaster. More than you ever wanted to know about headphones: http://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/243 Will those headphones do the work or should I keep playing through my Marshall Monitor Headphones? http://www.thomann.de/gr/samson_sr850.htm I know they are cheap, but they have open back and good dynamic range... What do you guys say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasterdude Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Blue Mofi. Expensive but well worth it IMHO. There are guys on fractal forums that say tweaking on Mofi then using CLR live works well. I have my first CLR inbound so have not tried for myself yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dshow Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I use Sennheiser HD-280 Pro Silver since a very long time and they still sound great with the POD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn2031 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thank you everyone for your input on this. This gives me PLENTY to research. Perhaps I'll see if I can't get a little more in the budget for these babies and get something really nice but at the same time I wasn't really looking for studio quality although it is certainly nice to know what to look for in the awesome category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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