capdoogie Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Maybe a line 6 guru can chime in. Want to run the helix thru the l2t or l2m. Since the l6 link doesn't switch the l2t or l2m, is it better to just get l2m and save $. Or is this a function that might be added in the future with a firmware update? My setup will be guitar-Helix-l2m or t. Thru to FOH. Lastly, if l6 link does not really do any proprietary switching is it better to just run xlr out to frfr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The only difference between the 2 is that the "t" has the built in 2ch mixer with fx other than that they are the same and are FRFR and have "mix out" that can go straight to your FOH, although it's only a $100 more you never know when that may come in handy for a small coffee house type gig where you don't want to bring a pa you can plug a mic and another guitar into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The main difference between the L2m and the L2t is the L2t adds DSP reverb and EQ and acoustic modeling, along with additional inputs. It's kind of more suited to be used a small standalone PA system. If you're never going to use those feature, the L2m is probably fine. As far as the L6 Link, it provides a digital audio connection, so it theoretically going to be less noisy than an analog connection. What sort of proprietary switching are you referring to exactly? The L6 Link connection even the HD500X doesn't do a whole lot with the StageSource speakers as far as switching. It does automatically set them to electric guitar mode, iirc. The switching functionality has to do more with the DT amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordalladin Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I ordered the L2t and after consideration I realised that until things get sorted out over the digital control of the L2t, I could use the L2t in electric guitar mode and connect my acoustic via the onboard mixer and EQ it to sound more like a acoustic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimlp Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I ordered the L2t and after consideration I realised that until things get sorted out over the digital control of the L2t, I could use the L2t in electric guitar mode and connect my acoustic via the onboard mixer and EQ it to sound more like a acoustic. the T has the acoustic modeling built in, that's one more thing is has that the M dose not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArneLine6 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We recommend to use the L2's in PA/Reference mode when used with modelers. The "Electric Guitar" setting emulates a guitar cab so you would not get the expected results with the cab modeling in the modeler active. The "Acoustic Guitar" setting changes the crossover frequency. An acoustic guitar in "PA/ Reference" mode sound exactly how that guitar should sound through a good FRFR speaker. Long story short- "PA/Reference" mode is the FRFR mode and is the only mode where what you hear is exactly the same as you are sending to FoH. I would recommend using "PA/ Reference." The L2t would give you the advantage of being able to plug your acoustic guitar into the side panel mixer and using the acoustic modeling, effects and eq of the speaker. This would be send to FoH through the XLR out on the speaker. You can, of course, also plug the acoustic into the modeler and then you would not need the "t" version of the speaker. The Line6 Link connection gives you an AD- DA conversion less- better sound quality and lower latency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capdoogie Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks for the info. I think the l2m is the right choice with the helix. Set to pa mode and thru to FOH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguitarjam Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I have both the l2m and l2t and have them setup in stereo with my helix and I am loving the sound. Having the mixer on one helps for when anyone comes over to jam and they can plug directly in the mixer with their acoustic and another mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Line 6 demoed Helix on the UK tour using 2 * L2m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgiff Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Thanks for the clarification, I was also wondering what is the difference between the two since they look identical and are almost the same price. For a little extra money I will buy the L2T because I just sold my Fishman acoustic guitar amp- since I sold all my acoustic guitars... bought a JTV, just ordered a HD500X... and hoping to "get it all" from a JTV/HD500X/L2T. "Hope springs eternal." But if I ever need a standalone "acoustic guitar amp" I can use the L2T. Very important: The advice about switching to PA/Reference mode when using a modeler. I just (an hour ago) read a review of the L2T (in German, I live here) where the guy tested the L2T using a Kemper Profiler, but he switched the L2T to "Electric Guitar" mode... and then he said the L2T is great, but not really suitable as a replacement for a guitar amp with 12" cab. And that was from a guy who reviews gear for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Very important: The advice about switching to PA/Reference mode when using a modeler. I just (an hour ago) read a review of the L2T (in German, I live here) where the guy tested the L2T using a Kemper Profiler, but he switched the L2T to "Electric Guitar" mode... and then he said the L2T is great, but not really suitable as a replacement for a guitar amp with 12" cab. And that was from a guy who reviews gear for a living. I'll have to disagree with that assessment. FRFR rigs have replaced "real" amps for plenty of us. And I know I'll get hammered for this...but the attachment to a tube rig is largely emotional. We all get used to things, and change sucks. But once you learn to use the gear, you can coax just about any sound you want it of it. Play with the various output modes and see what works...just don't bother with "electric guitar mode" for your acoustic tones. That ain't gonna fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgiff Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'll have to disagree with that assessment. FRFR rigs have replaced "real" amps for plenty of us. And I know I'll get hammered for this...but the attachment to a tube rig is largely emotional. We all get used to things, and change sucks. But once you learn to use the gear, you can coax just about any sound you want it of it. Play with the various output modes and see what works...just don't bother with "electric guitar mode" for your acoustic tones. That ain't gonna fly. I got your point, but my point was that even somebody who reviews guitar rigs for a living did not understand that a modeler should run into a FRFR for best results. I personally concluded a while ago that it didn't make a lot of sense to run a modeler whether a Pod or a RP1000 etc into the input of a guitar amp. And if you run it into the power amp only, why bother to have a guitar amp with a preamp section. Yes the logical conclusion is to get a FRFR. Looks like I may also be headed in the L2T direction as soon as I sell a few more of my guitars :-) Then I will see the look on the face of my lead guitar player who has been playing a 1979 Strat... since 1981. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I got your point, but my point was that even somebody who reviews guitar rigs for a living did not understand that a modeler should run into a FRFR for best results. I personally concluded a while ago that it didn't make a lot of sense to run a modeler whether a Pod or a RP1000 etc into the input of a guitar amp. And if you run it into the power amp only, why bother to have a guitar amp with a preamp section. Yes the logical conclusion is to get a FRFR. Looks like I may also be headed in the L2T direction as soon as I sell a few more of my guitars :-) Then I will see the look on the face of my lead guitar player who has been playing a 1979 Strat... since 1981. Sometimes it's difficult to teach an old guitar player new tricks...but hey, could be worse. We could be talking about the drummer. Can't teach them anything, no matter how old they are. Sit, fetch...never mind, drink this beer. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Well least it wasnt the bass player this time... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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