joel_brown

He once created a tone then built the PODHD to put it in.

This should be a simple thread. Amplifi is easier to use and sounds good. PODHD is harder to use and sounds better.

I would like to say "Thank You" to Digital_Igloo for his responses.

I tried hundreds of IRs and there are zillions to choose from. If I had seen enough of an improvement to keep going I would have.

Confirms what I found out when I bought the Logidy, and then returned it. Guess I'm not the only one. Thanks TheRealZap for posting this. The Logidy is a great product. It provides stereo user installable IRs for $200 and only adds 1ms of latency. It just didn't give me much of an improvement for live use with my rig to be worth doing. Maybe an FRFR system would see a bigger improvement.

I think that's the best summary so far. Yes it would be nice if the PODHD had support for external IRs (and a Global EQ) but it may not have the horsepower to support anything other than very low res IRs. More than likely they would have to put in a faster DSP chip, reprogram some things, retool some hardware, then for $1200 bucks they may sell enough of them to make a profit. Or they could just repackage their old stuff and call it Amplifi and make a bunch of money. All of this is just speculation cause Line6, for good reasons, doesn't talk about their future plans.

As an ending to this thread. I returned my Logidy unit and received a full refund. Logidy was great to deal with. The unit worked exactly as described, but when it didn't meet my expectations with the PODHD and I asked to return it, they didn't hesitate a bit. If external IRs is what you're looking for then I recommend looking at Logidy. Unfortunately external IRs in my configuration didn't give me much of a tone improvement.

And this is why I use real Marshall amps and cabs when I play live.... and probably why in my configuration I didn't notice much of a difference with external IRs. Probably works great in a studio or FRFR setup. Logidy, for the price, is an incredible deal. Stereo external IRs for $200. Torpedo is $500 for mono, last I looked.

Can't say this is a big no-no since myself and others have been doing this for years with Roland, Line6 and AXE equipment. It's the only way I've found to get the dynamic tone I want without sounding digitally artificial. Not saying there isn't other ways that work very well, but a far cry from a big no-no. Also I only play live, no recording going on here other than live recordings. That could be a reason that the external IRs didn't do much for me. The biggest reason I frequent this forum is to read about different ways people have configured their equipment so I can try it myself. What I have configured works the best for me doing the type of music I do. Actually I'm surprised that more people aren't playing live in stereo. One of the venues I play at finally told me they are getting quite a few National acts doing this now. It makes a big difference if setup properly.

Well the Logidy with custom IRs didn't sound worse by any means. It just wasn't much if any better than what I had already in the PODHD. I wish it had been a nice improvement, and it may be a lot better in a different configuration.

gunpointmetal, my configuration is the only one I've found that sounds good for me. I've done the 4cm, stack combo, and all the rest of the settings. I'm surprised that you're surprised it works like this.

After trying a bunch of user installable IRs and tweaking lots of settings, I sent an email to Logidy asking if I could return the unit. Yes it made differences in tone but it was far from being a big improvement over what comes built into the PODHD, atleast in my configuration.

I've been using the PODHD with Studio Out into the FX return of the Marshall amps with cabs and using the PODHD PreAmp and Cab - which sounds very nice for hi gain. I'm now using the Logidy in place of the PODHD cab. A full speaker sim into a full speaker sounds very nice, atleast in my situation. We all have speakers at some point. Just some have different characteristics.

Downloaded a few thousand impulse responses for free. The first one I put into the Logidy was better, but not a lot. Just 1,999 more IRs to try. But atleast now I have virtually unlimited cabs and mics plus the Logidy has tone controls which are fairly useful. I'm thinking the Logidy may be more useful for people using solid state amps or going direct into a sound system. Or for people who use IRs for recording but would like to take the same sound with them when they play live.

I ordered the Logidy C.01 Impulse Response box. This gives me the ability to use IRs, including user installable IRs, with the PODHD. My rig is a PODHD into the effect return of a pair of Marshall JCM900s in stereo. I play in a Black Sabbath Tribute band so hi-gain is the most important thing to me. After tweaking with the Logidy for about an hour, using it instead of the PODHD cab, I can't say it's worth it yet. Although the tone was very good, it wasn't much better, if any, than the preset I built for myself - after months of tweaking. Not a fair comparison yet. I'm going to try some user installable IRs and see how that goes. I've read that the built in IRs that come with the Logidy are not that good but it really comes alive when installing other IRs. This is a heck of a deal for this box. Stereo IRs for $200 and you can install your own.

Try reducing the Input Z setting to like 32k.

I use a pair of Marshall JCM900s into 4x12 cabs. I think any good tube amp into a good guitar cab would work fine.

Why do you need to know the latencies ? I thought I remembered reading on some post somewhere it was around 7ms. Don't know if that was measured using the FX loop too. I think the AXEFX was a couple ms faster. I can't tell any latency while playing.

Here's an interesting effect. Put a compressor after the reverb.

Is there anyone else that's excited about the Logidy EPSi Version C ? Anyone else used it ?

Confuse what two ?

Dude, you've broken everything ? Maybe it is you... I had a friend who had the worse luck with anything electronic. I remember one time he was fighting some computer video issue for days. I walk in and do the same thing he had done about 16 times and it works for me first try. This happened countless times over many years. So it's not the first time I've seen someone with unbelievable bad luck with certain types of equipment.

I wish I could set my Delay Time to 60%. This ms stuff is confusing.

Hehe, the EQ topic has been beat to death. I'd like to meet this Line6 guy that came up with percentages for EQ and do my Dr. Phil impression "Whaaat were youuu thinking ?".

On the topic of reverb, I use just enough that you don't know it's there unless you turn it off. Usually the room's natural reverb is plenty. In finding a tone, one thing that helped me is the Input Z setting. Try all of them from Auto, 1m, down to 22k. For me the tone was too bright until I turned down the Input Z setting. But that depends on pickups, amps, playing style, and lots of other things. I personally use the 32k setting but that may not work for you.