NucleusX Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 startle69 "The bands are Low Cut, Low, Mid, High, High Cut. The frequency for each band is adjustable. The Gain for each band is adjustable with the exception of the two Cuts." Great thx, what are the lowest and highest selectable frequencies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startle69 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 startle69 "The bands are Low Cut, Low, Mid, High, High Cut. The frequency for each band is adjustable. The Gain for each band is adjustable with the exception of the two Cuts." Great thx, what are the lowest and highest selectable frequencies ? 20 HZ - 20 KHZ Lo Cut - increments of 1 HZ Low - increments of 10 HZ Mid - increments of .1 KHZ High - increments of .1 KHZ High Cut - increments of .1 KHZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucleusX Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Awesome ! Finally a 20 to 20 EQ ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 love the new champ... such its own thing... reminds me of the little POS champ i had decades ago... good fun... not your typical fender. FWIW, I just updated my PRO X. Absolutely no hassles. I bought all three packs and they're working find. Had to use the L6 License Manager. Very preliminary results are good. The new AC 15 is excellent as is the Champ. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdkane Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Any comments on the 5150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geebake Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I've been ABing the Champ to my 57 Champ RI and I have to say - it's close. The model seems to have more bottom end and maybe a little less saturation when it's dimed but it's really more than in the ball park. I suspect if I fiddle with the EQ long enough, I can get it extremely close. Sorry cdKane, I'm not a 5150 kind of guy so my opinion would be useless. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spawn2031 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Woot! Time to rush home and get the FW all set up. I would love to see some feedback on the high gain models if anyone has any yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I noticed the usb firmware was updated from 1.01 to 1.04. Wonder what it fixes, if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 pretty sure that just adds the security and licensing stuff needed for the model packs. I noticed the usb firmware was updated from 1.01 to 1.04. Wonder what it fixes, if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 instantly took me back to the vintage one i had years ago... far too gone to do any A/B but i'm happy to have it. I've been ABing the Champ to my 57 Champ RI and I have to say - it's close. The model seems to have more bottom end and maybe a little less saturation when it's dimed but it's really more than in the ball park. I suspect if I fiddle with the EQ long enough, I can get it extremely close. Sorry cdKane, I'm not a 5150 kind of guy so my opinion would be useless. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I've been ABing the Champ to my 57 Champ RI and I have to say - it's close. The model seems to have more bottom end and maybe a little less saturation when it's dimed... Yep. Drop the ResLvl parameter a bit and you may find them nearly identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startle69 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I installed the Metal Pack on the HD500x and scrolling through the new offerings I really loved what I heard from most of them. 5150, Variac'ed Plexi, and Insane are standouts for me right now but I've yet to really dive in so don't take this as my gospel. The new models also seem to be a bit louder in default settings than most of the stock options as well. So now I go to dial them in and realize that they do not come with matching cabinets? I guess I assumed they would based on the fact that all the other models have a matching cabinet. The 5150 (called the PV Panama) defaults the 4x12 Uber and sounds great - very authentic IMO. I know that someone asked about this earlier. I'm still scratching my head though regarding the absence of matching cabs for the new models... Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 No, the cabinets that were released are explicitly stated in the model pack descriptions if they are included. as you noticed... not all amps come with cabinets. I installed the Metal Pack on the HD500x and scrolling through the new offerings I really loved what I heard from most of them. 5150, Variac'ed Plexi, and Insane are standouts for me right now but I've yet to really dive in so don't take this as my gospel. The new models also seem to be a bit louder in default settings than most of the stock options as well. So now I go to dial them in and realize that they do not come with matching cabinets? I guess I assumed they would based on the fact that all the other models have a matching cabinet. The 5150 (called the PV Panama) defaults the 4x12 Uber and sounds great - very authentic IMO. I know that someone asked about this earlier. I'm still scratching my head though regarding the absence of matching cabs for the new models... Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startle69 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 No, the cabinets that were released are explicitly stated in the model pack descriptions if they are included. as you noticed... not all amps come with cabinets. Thank you for the clarification. Can you please name or provide links to the Model Packs that do have the cabinet inclusions explicitly stated so I can check those out? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbagchee Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The list from the "fully loaded" page (cabs in bold): http://store.line6.com/software/hd-model-packs/hd-fully-loaded-bundle.html Included Amps: Peavey® 5150® (Block logo) Bogner® Shiva Remastered Marshall® JCM800 (Model 2204) Line 6 Insane Line 6 Big Bottom Line 6 Variac'ed Plexi Line 6 Purge Line 6 Aggro Line 6 Smash Line 6 Octone Roland® JC-120 Fender® Champ® (Tweed) Orange® OR80 VOX® AC30 (Fawn Normal Ch.) VOX® AC30 (Fawn Bright Ch.) Roland® JC-120 2x12 CAB Fender® Champ® 1x8 CAB Line 6 Acoustic Pete Anderson Custom Ampeg® SVT® Normal Ch. Ampeg® SVT® Bright Ch. GK Gallien-Kruger® 800RB Ampeg® SVT® 8x10 CAB Ampeg® SVT® 410HLF CAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startle69 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The list from the "fully loaded" page (cabs in bold): http://store.line6.com/software/hd-model-packs/hd-fully-loaded-bundle.html Included Amps: Peavey® 5150® (Block logo) Bogner® Shiva Remastered Marshall® JCM800 (Model 2204) Line 6 Insane Line 6 Big Bottom Line 6 Variac'ed Plexi Line 6 Purge Line 6 Aggro Line 6 Smash Line 6 Octone Roland® JC-120 Fender® Champ® (Tweed) Orange® OR80 VOX® AC30 (Fawn Normal Ch.) VOX® AC30 (Fawn Bright Ch.) Roland® JC-120 2x12 CAB Fender® Champ® 1x8 CAB Line 6 Acoustic Pete Anderson Custom Ampeg® SVT® Normal Ch. Ampeg® SVT® Bright Ch. GK Gallien-Kruger® 800RB Ampeg® SVT® 8x10 CAB Ampeg® SVT® 410HLF CAB Thank you for the information. I guess I'm more of a checking the box for batteries cabs not included type of person. With that being said, I would have purchased the pack regardless to experience and explore the tonal possibilities of the new models. I do applaud the efforts that Line 6 has made in updating the sofware to accomodate the addition of new amps, cabs, and hopefully effects on a selective basis. I feel they are definitely going in the right direction with this. I am very impressed thus far with the tones I'm getting from the new amps. My only disappointment is that including matching cabs would open up a lot more tonal possibilites both with the new and existing amp models - and I was initially expecting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdkane Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I installed the Metal Pack on the HD500x and scrolling through the new offerings I really loved what I heard from most of them. 5150, Variac'ed Plexi, and Insane are standouts for me right now but I've yet to really dive in so don't take this as my gospel. The new models also seem to be a bit louder in default settings than most of the stock options as well. So now I go to dial them in and realize that they do not come with matching cabinets? I guess I assumed they would based on the fact that all the other models have a matching cabinet. The 5150 (called the PV Panama) defaults the 4x12 Uber and sounds great - very authentic IMO. I know that someone asked about this earlier. I'm still scratching my head though regarding the absence of matching cabs for the new models... Am I missing something here? Thanks for the update on the 5150. I replaced my 5150 rig with the hd500x so looking to capture that tone again. On the other hand really wanting to blend the 5150 with the Mesa through the treadplate cab. By my calculations... godly metal sound. I love these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startle69 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks for the update on the 5150. I replaced my 5150 rig with the hd500x so looking to capture that tone again. On the other hand really wanting to blend the 5150 with the Mesa through the treadplate cab. By my calculations... godly metal sound. I love these things I just tried that combo and and it does work well with both the 57 on and off axis. I prefer the off axis as it gives a mellower tone but that's the tone I prefer in general. It does sound very similiar to the default 4 x 12 Uber (57 on axis) but is a tad bit louder to my ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdkane Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I just tried that combo and and it does work well with both the 57 on and off axis. I prefer the off axis as it gives a mellower tone but that's the tone I prefer in general. It does sound very similiar to the default 4 x 12 Uber (57 on axis) but is a tad bit louder to my ears. Thanks for sharing mate, currently at work, i want to go play with my new tones... Its killing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 So here's some info I couldn't immediately find. The first three lists are showing what Line 6's amp names equal in each . The last list is the order the amkps appear in HD500x edit. HD Metal Pack PV Panama - Peavey® 5150® (Block logo) Mahadeva - Bogner® Shiva Brit 2204 - Remastered Marshall® JCM800 (Model 2204) Line 6 Insane Line 6 Big Bottom Line 6 Variac'ed Plexi Line 6 Purge Line 6 Aggro Line 6 Smash Line 6 Octone HD Vintage Pack Jazz Rivet - Roland® JC-120 Small Tweed - Fender® Champ® (Tweed) Mandarin 80 - Orange® OR80 A30 Fawn Nrm - VOX® AC30 (Fawn Normal Ch.) A30 Fawn Brt - VOX® AC30 (Fawn Bright Ch.) Line 6 Acoustic Black Panel Pete - Pete Anderson Custom Roland® JC-120 2x12 CAB Fender® Champ® 1x8 CAB HD Bass Pack SVT Nrm - Ampeg® SVT® Normal Ch. SVT Brt - Ampeg® SVT® Bright Ch. G Cougar 80 - GK Gallien-Kruger® 800RB Ampeg® SVT® 8x10 CAB Ampeg® SVT® 410HLF CAB HD 500X Order Small Tweed - Fender® Champ® (Tweed) Jazz Rivet - Roland® JC-120 PV Panama - Peavey® 5150® (Block logo) SVT Brt - Ampeg® SVT® Bright Ch. SVT Nrm - Ampeg® SVT® Normal Ch. Mahadeva - Bogner® Shiva G Cougar 800 - GK Gallien-Kruger® 800RB Brit 2204 - Remastered Marshall® JCM800 (Model 2204) Mandarin 80 - Orange® OR80 A30 Fawn Brt - VOX® AC30 (Fawn Bright Ch.) A30 Fawn Nrm - VOX® AC30 (Fawn Normal Ch.) Black Panel Pete - Pete Anderson Custom Line 6 Octone Line 6 Insane Line 6 Big Bottom Line 6 Variac'ed Plexi Line 6 Purge Line 6 Aggro Line 6 Smash Line 6 Acoustic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beizard Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I updated all the firmware & added all the Model packs, now my HD500x will not take any input. Not from a Variax cable, or a 1/4". There is nothing coming out, then I checked the tuner, and there is no signal coming in to trigger the tuner. Anybody else having an issue? Help Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babino Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I updated all the firmware & added all the Model packs, now my HD500x will not take any input. Not from a Variax cable, or a 1/4". There is nothing coming out, then I checked the tuner, and there is no signal coming in to trigger the tuner. Anybody else having an issue? Help Bill I have a similar issue. I updated to 2.60 and immediately lost the output signal. I rolled back to the previous firmware and tried every setting and reset idea (i.e. hold left arrow while powering on) to no avail. I have not yet been able to get an output signal. I do however see that guitar input is registering through the tuner so for me it looks like something to do specifically with the output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 save your tones, and then re flash, without saving your tones.... just to see if the update process may be having issues with the earlier tones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxtlo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did update to 2.6 firmware and everything went like in movies !! No problems at all. I did also go for Full Bundle and every amp is there like promised. Only annoying thing to buy model pack was those taxes ! I was not prepared for that but i guess you cannot avoid taxman in any situations :angry: Only set list confuse me little while cause user list 3 was renamed variax.. ? but all my presets was there so no harm done. I didnt have much time to test new amps and cabs but hopefully sooon !! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Only set list confuse me little while cause user list 3 was renamed variax.. ? but all my presets was there so no harm done. Yep; we added a new setlist of presets that recall Variax models, tunings, capo, volume, and tone settings. Whether you have a Variax or not, you can either check 'em out or ignore them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdkane Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I have a similar issue. I updated to 2.60 and immediately lost the output signal. I rolled back to the previous firmware and tried every setting and reset idea (i.e. hold left arrow while powering on) to no avail. I have not yet been able to get an output signal. I do however see that guitar input is registering through the tuner so for me it looks like something to do specifically with the output. How did you go with this? Did you get it sorted? Was excited to go home and update everything but am worried about the brick factor. Is there a step by step guide or tips on updating firmware safely and transferring model packs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellM5 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 My update went really smooth. Haven't had a chance to play the models much though. Also, there are models I was expecting but haven't found quite yet. Line 6 Monkey made the firmware updates easy. The email you get after purchasing the model packs has the instructions which makes it pretty simple. I purchased the model packs from the Line 6 store. I started Line 6 License Manager and authorized my HD500X then I fired up the new version of HD Edit and the new amp models were in there with all the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdkane Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 My update went really smooth. Haven't had a chance to play the models much though. Also, there are models I was expecting but haven't found quite yet. Line 6 Monkey made the firmware updates easy. The email you get after purchasing the model packs has the instructions which makes it pretty simple. I purchased the model packs from the Line 6 store. I started Line 6 License Manager and authorized my HD500X then I fired up the new version of HD Edit and the new amp models were in there with all the others. Cheers mate, I'll give it a crack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billlorentzen Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'm a 500 owner. I'm really curious about the new models, especially the vintage ones like the champ. If you guys have time to put up,some samples, I'd appreciate it and I'm sure I'm not alone. Hey L6, how about some vids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babino Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I have a similar issue. I updated to 2.60 and immediately lost the output signal. I rolled back to the previous firmware and tried every setting and reset idea (i.e. hold left arrow while powering on) to no avail. I have not yet been able to get an output signal. I do however see that guitar input is registering through the tuner so for me it looks like something to do specifically with the output. Update: This is now fixed and was User Error... ID10T. I had made a change to the guitar and the output volume was just enough to register on the tuner but not enough to register coming out of the HD500X. I did reset the unit several times and reflash but believe the ultimate root cause was the added variable of the guitar output change (new battery turned out to be bad). Apologies if I caused any undue stress to those waiting to update ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Yep; we added a new setlist of presets that recall Variax models, tunings, capo, volume, and tone settings. Whether you have a Variax or not, you can either check 'em out or ignore them. I see my patches were changed but none of the Setlist names were changed (I did not "keep my patches") So it did replace all the patches but the setlist names are still what I had previously named them. Can someone tell me what each of the setlists are called. Right now it looks like setlist 5 is all the Variax patches and not setlist 3 as was previously mentioned And what are all the patches with amp names and LVM after their names. What are those about? I really wish Line 6 would come out with some sort of explanation of the patches aside from the setlist title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Setlist 6 is "Variax" (new presets) Setlist 7 is "User 1" Setlist 8 is "User 2" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 And what are all the patches with amp names and LVM after their names. What are those about? Don't remember seeing LVM in any of the new presets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Setlist 6 is "Variax" (new presets) Setlist 7 is "User 1" Setlist 8 is "User 2" Are you sure? My Setlist 5 has patches like "One Coil Brit" and "Psyc Chiime" Which to me indicate guitars and Setlist 6 has patches like "Black Dog" Blue Suede Shoes" and "Brown Sugar" which sound like song patches to me Here's what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Ah, yes. You need to reset your system parameters, and the new setlist names show up. However, if you restore setlists or a bundle, your custom setlist names should return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilhordas Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did the update and it happened all ok, I changed some parameters of global eq and now want to go back to the original parameters, anyone know the original values of each frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Ah, yes. You need to reset your system parameters, and the new setlist names show up. However, if you restore setlists or a bundle, your custom setlist names should return. How do I do that? I went to the Knowledge base and no info. I've reloaded the firmware from Monkey and still have the old setlists. FOUND IT!!! Never Mind!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 From the release notes in Monkey and on the download page: Known Issues Set List Names—If during the update process new presets are optionally loaded to overwrite the previous set, Set List names may not correlate to the new presets appropriately. This is because renaming Set Lists is not a part of the firmware update process. Set List names may be changed in the hardware using a variety of methods: System Reset—Pressing (and holding down) the four-way navigation pad to the left while powering up will perform a Global Settings reset. This action will reset all settings to their factory default and requires a recalibration of the on-board expression pedal. Instructions for pedal calibration can be found here. Due to the pedal recalibration, it is generally recommended to update the Set List names using the manual method described below. Manual—Set Lists may be renamed manually by simply highlighting a Set List name and pressing the SAVE button. Use the four encoders beneath the main display and press SAVE to complete. The presets in firmware v2.60 correlate to the following Set List names, as seen in the main display from left to right, top to bottom: BEST OF HD FX HEAVY SONGS / STYLE BASS/ACO/VOC L6LINK DT VARIAX USER 1 USER 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I did the update and it happened all ok, I changed some parameters of global eq and now want to go back to the original parameters, anyone know the original values of each frequency? Lo Cut: 20Hz Low: 150Hz Mid: 1.8KHz High: 8.0KHz High Cut: 20Khz All Qs are 0.7 All Gains are 0.0dB The EQ defaults to ON. To get the default values back you can also do a global reset, but that's kind of a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblinman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Any comments on the 5150? Sounds like bees in a can. If that's what you want it should be perfect. The Shiva is phenomenal to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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