Disrated Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hi, I would like to get a feature on the master volume. Every time I get the Helix floor version out of the bag the volume setting has changed. As of now there is no digital response/representation on the volume setting. I would like to get this to be able to set the exact same volume. The reason is of course complaints from the guitarist. According to him I always set the volume higher than the last rehearsal. But without the digital representation I can’t prove him wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Even if you had photographic evidence, you can't win with those sorts of people. Seriously - it's a knob... If telling him something like, "I usually keep at 12 o'clock" isn't good enough for him, tell him he just needs to get over it. The other thing is that there are plenty of other ways to adjust the volume in the Helix signal chain, so having the master volume knob at any given position doesn't really prove anything as far as your actual volume on any given night is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Requests need to go to Idea Scale... it won't even get noticed in here. But honestly, it's not terribly difficult to set the volume knob at noon... there's a built in landmark: The "u" in "volume" right above the knob. Works every time. Besides, any tiny variance in the physical position of the knob would result in a minimal perceptible volume difference, if any...and anyone claiming to hear a significant change from one day to the next, is full of $hit. Unless he's standing there with a dB meter, he can't possibly know how loud you were yesterday...and even with a meter, it's meaningless anyway. Perception is variable and entirely subjective, and will never be quantifiable in any meaningful way. 90 dB today might seem louder than 90dB yesterday, for any of a thousand reasons. This guy just likes to whine...if it wasn't this, he'd be b1tching about something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 This can't be a real complaint... can it? Is this a guitar tech telling us he can't setup the guitar players Helix master volume to the exact place each time? I thought every tech knew how to solve this... just like they do with getting amp settings right gig to gig. Painters tape and a marker! It's worked for decades and kept the biggest of professionals happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, codamedia said: This can't be a real complaint... can it? Is this a guitar tech telling us he can't setup the guitar players Helix master volume to the exact place each time? I thought every tech knew how to solve this... just like they do with getting amp settings right gig to gig. Painters tape and a marker! It's worked for decades and kept the biggest of professionals happy. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjalt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 2:31 PM, Disrated said: Hi, I would like to get a feature on the master volume. Every time I get the Helix floor version out of the bag the volume setting has changed. As of now there is no digital response/representation on the volume setting. I would like to get this to be able to set the exact same volume. The reason is of course complaints from the guitarist. According to him I always set the volume higher than the last rehearsal. But without the digital representation I can’t prove him wrong. just put the master volume at full position and rework your patches levels..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpointmetal Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Max it, use the amp/speaker volume for settings. Then he can't complain. He's probably just mad your tone is so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disrated Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, enjalt said: just put the master volume at full position and rework your patches levels..... I could do that. But I still preferred to have the representation on the master volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 9:50 AM, codamedia said: This can't be a real Painters tape and a marker! It's worked for decades and kept the biggest of professionals happy. This bears repeating... not everything requires a technical solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjalt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Disrated said: I could do that. But I still preferred to have the representation on the master volume. Too bad so... it’s your rôle to keep a constant volume value. If you push up your master during a gig it’s not good. It’s Your soundman’s job. you can engage à boost/comp during your solo parts but normaly it’s Not very clean to modify your master.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 download a audio db meter on a smartphone, it'll vary in your proximity to the source and all...but still useful at best. Best thing is what was mentioned that I did, set volume knob to max, and readjust the output block setting to compensate what you need. Takes they physical knob guessing out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The Master Volume knob is setup so that when turned all of the way up, it is unity gain. Ya know, the signal value going in will be the same as going out if there are no other blocks in the path. I set my Helix up so that the Master Volume only controls the 1/4" outputs and has no control over the XLR outputs. You can also do this for the 1/4" outputs. When you do this, the outputs the Master Volume are NOT controlling will act as if the Master Volume is turned up all of the way. i.e. unity gain. Don't forget to make sure the output is setup to the correct output type. In the case of the XLR's it's either Line or Mic. In the case of the 1/4" it's Line or Instrument. Set your patch levels to that and now, no matter where the Master Volume is set at they will always be the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 3:50 PM, codamedia said: Painters tape and a marker! It's worked for decades and kept the biggest of professionals happy. On 3/13/2019 at 6:38 PM, cruisinon2 said: This bears repeating... not everything requires a technical solution. I agree. I just take a CD marker to mark my volume settings. You can remove it with some alcohol cleaner if you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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